I hate Zane too. Total movie-killer.
― Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
You know which movie's incredibly high place on the adjusted B.O. gross list always shocks me? The Sting. Now there's a movie with a seemingly limited cultural cachet.
http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
Unless that just represented the perfect storm apex of '70s nostalgia.
the sting rules
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 18:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
^ otm
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 21:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
"culturally irrelevant" until hype for avatar 2 starts & ppl pretend forget that the 1st one was shit, paint selves blue
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, May 9, 2012 7:25 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
have been thinking about that throughout this discussion. cameron's supposedly got two sequels in the pipeline. if they're hits on anything like avatar's scale, then i suspect that all this "culturally irrelevant" talk will seem a little silly in hindsight. "invisible in the moment, from where i'm standing" isn't precisely the same as "irrelevant", after all.
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 21:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
This movie didn't come across anti-war, it came across more pro-one dimensional woodland tribal innocents vs. one dimensional US military racists. Maybe slightly more anti-war than Star Wars in that the idyllic Navi is far more hippie than the rebels. But still, total time showing military technology, lingering on awesome attack helicopters, glorifying explosions, etc. Still felt like it glorified war, only in a context that made it way easy for left wingers to want one side to win.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 21:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah, i wouldn't call avatar anti-war in general. any antiwar reading is stymied by cameron's obsession with heroic combat and military tech. hell, it's pro-war if anything.
it does take a strong stance against imperialist aggression (lol safe targets) and not-so-subtly critiques america's military "adventurism" in the middle east (esp in just-post-bush-era context).
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 21:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
have been thinking about that throughout this discussion. cameron's supposedly got two sequels in the pipeline. if they're hits on anything like avatar's scale, then i suspect that all this "culturally irrelevant" talk will seem a little silly in hindsight. "invisible in the moment, from where i'm standing" isn't precisely the same as "irrelevant", after all.― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, May 9, 2012 4:35 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, May 9, 2012 4:35 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
or they could be like the star wars prequels and make a shit-ton of money without anybody really being that enthusiastic about them.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 21:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
honestly re. the question of whether avatar is anti-imperialism or anti-bush or something just solicits a "who cares?" from me. the stakes are pretty much nil.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 21:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
loving how the matrix: revolutions is still culturally relevant in 2012, it's a popular cultural touchstone among my friends
― dayo, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 21:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
People who left the movie wishing they could be a blue person vs. people who left the movie wishing they could ride in one of those high-tech military body suits.
Stressing again, little kids LOVED these. That is, I have never heard a little kid play Luke. They all want to be Anakin, for play, for Halloween, for whatever. Mission accomplished, Lucas.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 21:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
"Matrix" sequels remain undeniably relevant as examples of "what not to do."
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 21:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, May 9, 2012 4:57 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah, these are some of the worst studio pictures of the last 20 years.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:01 (1 year ago) Permalink