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no shame in being defensive abt things that are worth defending

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10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 03:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah, i am too obviously. defensive. i thought it was cool even when it was fucked up. i can't think of anything like it right now.

scott seward, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 03:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

I know him as the dude from that pic w/ the pineapple

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, May 8, 2012 4:53 PM (3 hours ago)

and was never clear why some of ilx seemed obsessed with him (e.g. whoever edits the ilx wikipedia entry)

sarahell, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 03:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

o i agree it's just ten (TEN) years ago when the music 'writing' on ilx was better than 95% of the music writing i'd find elsewhere if you'd told me that ten years later ilxors would be all over music criticism esp at pfork i would've assumed that obv the state of music criticism had improved, esp at pfork. and i'm not sure it has. then again maybe it has - tom's popular is fantastic and marcello's then play long is really really incredible, but neither of those guys are getting paid. perpetua is. ilx doesn't bear any responsibility for this state of affairs obv.

balls, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 03:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

the wiki edits are easily the funniest thing dom has ever done

12plsrU (electricsound), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 03:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

i never understood it either. but then i don't go on animal collective threads or whatever he was into so i never saw it. and i didn't follow the whole inside baseball blogosphere thing. if you were into that stuff i guess you would have reasons to be mean? i have no idea.

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scott seward, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 03:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

nothing but love for voice's old music section, nothing but love for voice's current music section really or at least much love to maura for the molanphy/shipley chart/radio geek rotation - if grantland had pop culture writing similar to this the gulf between their sports writing and pop writing wouldn't be quite so huge, could easily see molanphy as a bill barnwell parallel.

balls, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 03:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think pitchfork has some of the best writers around writing for it right now. um, not that i read it much, but occasionally something will get linked and i see good stuff.

scott seward, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 03:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

i mean i'm just not that interested in a lot of pitchfork type music, but i think the talent is definitely there.

scott seward, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 03:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

There's a market near me that I know has really excellent pineapple.

I don't particularly like pineapple, but I know it is good.

Uh...

sarahell, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

there is this sort of irony that we idolized a certain sort of rockwrite and aspired to it, but the process (writ large) by which we became part of it was also the same process which killed it.

s.clover, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

one thing i would love to see is certain ilxors (past or present) taking pieces/ideas they couldn't sell elsewhere and doing kindle singles w/ them. for example would LOVE to see the seward version of this: http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Rock-Albums-1970s-ebook/dp/B006TV1HKQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1336535928&sr=8-1

balls, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

i hate pineapple

Lamp, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

i also used to not understand why lots of good music writers aspired to nothing more than leaving it behind. then, unfortunately, i got it.

s.clover, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

My feelings about pitchfork and pineapple are similar.

sarahell, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

you find them sweet and chunky?

mookieproof, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

tom and maura among others have grappled with this -- how could a democratization of the conversation possibly be a bad thing, or at least not an unmitigated good? the straightforward answer is just, i think, lolmarketforces.

s.clover, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp - lol mookie, real answer: i very rarely consume either

sarahell, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

tom and maura among others have grappled with this -- how could a democratization of the conversation possibly be a bad thing, or at least not an unmitigated good? the straightforward answer is just, i think, lolmarketforces.

― s.clover, Tuesday, May 8, 2012 9:06 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the answer, i think, is that morally good /= "i actually want to read what you have to say" good

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

like, democracy is a wonderful ideal, but a very poor editor

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah this is stupid as hell but i think i might've actually thought at one point that the easy instant access to music now meant that the descriptive role and judgmental role of rockcrit would fade away (you no longer needed the critic to tell you what a record sounded like or if it was good, you could find that out yrself immediately and in less time than it took to finish a review) and we'd be left w/ actual insight as the goal ie good criticism (or my definition anyway). this didn't happen, if anything the opposite. now post-deluge rockcrit's main role seems to be as a filter, ie i'll check out something if it gets best new music or 4.0 or higher at resident advisor etc but i pretty much never actually read an actual review and i'm not sure i've ever seen lex have any kind of actual insight but as a filter he's very effective, a much better algorithm than pandora or whatever.

balls, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

^otm^ and made me sort of wistful/sad

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

My feelings about pitchfork and pineapple are similar.

This seems an appropriate time to mention that Ted Leo once interviewed both me and Perpetua backstage at Pitchfork Music Festival about our taste in fruit.

sockless in moccasins (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

"chunky"

the late great, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

how could a democratization of the conversation possibly be a bad thing, or at least not an unmitigated good?

LOL comment boxes

the late great, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

actual OLL

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

democracy, as it happens, sucks

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

Fruit is great! </rhonda>

sarahell, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

that seems like an oversimplification, if for no other reason than how many people on this message board must be overweight, including his tormenters

― some dude

buzza, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 06:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

under appreciated some dude posts I have read

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 08:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

nothing but love for voice's old music section, nothing but love for voice's current music section really or at least much love to maura for the molanphy/shipley chart/radio geek rotation - if grantland had pop culture writing similar to this the gulf between their sports writing and pop writing wouldn't be quite so huge, could easily see molanphy as a bill barnwell parallel.

― balls, Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:56 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

aww my love of balls is reciprocated

some dude, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 12:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

the irony that chris ott shares his name with a useful internet acronym that describes his writing just now dawned on me

dayo, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 12:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

rev going ham on anco is the best btw

dayo, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 12:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

and i'm not sure i've ever seen lex have any kind of actual insight but as a filter he's very effective, a much better algorithm than pandora or whatever.

― balls,

That's a bit unfair, I dunno about his reviews but i've seen excellent lex posts full of insight that have made me actually want to check out whatever hes writing about.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 12:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

I always get happy when balls posts here tbh

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 13:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

"for example would LOVE to see the seward version of this"

thanks, but you know what, i'm inspired by marcello. he's basically writing a book on his blog and that seems like the way to go for me. just gonna keep posting essay-length things on my blog when i feel inspired (perhaps linking things thematically as if they were chapters), and when i have enough stuff, maybe see if anyone is interested in publishing. i do like the idea of real books.

scott seward, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 13:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

i do like the idea of real books.

I do too, and it's my wish to publish one in the next few years, but my conflict has always been how much attention to give non-fiction versus fiction, in addition to not wanting to surrender a quite decent job. I don't know. Confession time: I've been glum the last seven or eight weeks wondering what or the hell I'm writing for; although my blog gets a decent hit count I don't know whether it matters. I still do the occasional professional reviewing job. I just tell myself to keep writing, that the writing is its own defense. I don't ever envision a moment when I'll say the hell with it: I love it too much and I need it, pure and simple. But the question of who the audience is never fades.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 13:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

AG completely otm

cinco de extra mayo (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

excellent lex posts full of insight that have made me actually want to check out whatever hes writing about

b b but balls was opposing these two ideas!

the late great, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

as filters AG and Lex are p much oil and water

cinco de extra mayo (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm dense, who is AG?

goole, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

AlG

dayo, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

aww my love of balls is reciprocated

― some dude, Wednesday, May 9, 2012 8:22 AM (2 hours ago)

Filing this post away for future, totally out-of-context, use.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

already did

(Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm dense, who is AG?

― goole

― Algerian Goalkeeper,

markers, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh

goole, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

Man if I knew who my audience actually was I'd be thrilled. I have no idea. I just post links up and hope they're read!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 15:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

http://www.housingworks.org/events/detail/fluxblog-live-10-years-of-perfect-tunes-with-rob-sheffield-emily-gould-mark

The world’s first mp3 blog celebrates its first 10 years with a live event featuring Rob Sheffield of Rolling Stone, Pitchfork editor-in-chief Mark Richardson, Emily Gould, Amanda Petrusich, Dick Valentine of Electric Six, Heather D’Angelo of Au Revoir Simone, Amy Rose of Rookie and other special guests. Each guest, along with Fluxblog proprietor Matthew Perpetua, will share a song and talk about it – basically replicating the Fluxblog format on stage.

He's still running with this idea, huh? I wish he would just say "one of" the first instead of THE first. Doesn't diminish Fluxblog's pedigree, but is also factual.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 25 June 2012 19:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

can ILX start referring to itself as "The World's First Internet Message Board" ?

tylerw, Monday, 25 June 2012 19:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

i was gonna say that iirc the little capsule bio on his twitter includes the 'first mp3 blog' line but looking at it now it doesn't, so i guess he changed it pretty recently

some dude, Monday, 25 June 2012 19:45 (1 year ago) Permalink


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