Matthew Perpetua and Fluxblog make the NY Times, fame and fortune is his

i think ott is missing the point that after everyone on ilx wrote for it the tone changed a lot

what i find weird is in the comments section of that post he made about the singles jukebox how every reply gets indented so much that they eventually
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i mean who thinks that's a good idea when you're programming a commenting thing?

guillaume apollinaire?

fair enough

i am not a critic but i have been on ilx for . . . nine years, and basically only encountered perpetua is fat joeks. perhaps the shorthand needs explanation every once in a while

i'm generally not into mocking other people's weight but i always thought it seemed apropos in his case - pompous dude w/ an inflated ego has an inflated body to match

wait who is balls? is balls ott? fuck an ott.

balls = blount

o man leon wieseltier was right, facebook friendships are meaningless!

it was only made worse by this even at the time clearly phony couching that he was just a enthusiast, he had no interest in writing for say pitchfork or rolling stone but lo and behold.

TBF, as long as I've known him, dude never made any bones about wanting to make a living from his writing.

haha leon used to come into my bookstore

he was kind of a prick

oh okay i love blount. hate ott. got confused.

haha mookie never would've guessed

haha knowing who balls is makes me less inclined to snap on him and much more able to shrug this sort of thing off. that said, given the decimation of venues for sanely paid music-crit over the past years, and everything else that's conspired to destroy whatever it was that maybe some of us thought it could offer and what could come of it, pointing the finger at ilx in relation to this in any way whatsoever seems beyond bizarre.

also yes i'm super-defensive w/r/t any criticism of the voice's old music section.

i thought ilxors made pitchfork better, actually. or maybe i liked some of them anyway as crits and i would like them anywhere. didn't have to be pitchfork.

no shame in being defensive abt things that are worth defending

xp

yeah, i am too obviously. defensive. i thought it was cool even when it was fucked up. i can't think of anything like it right now.

I know him as the dude from that pic w/ the pineapple

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, May 8, 2012 4:53 PM (3 hours ago)

and was never clear why some of ilx seemed obsessed with him (e.g. whoever edits the ilx wikipedia entry)

o i agree it's just ten (TEN) years ago when the music 'writing' on ilx was better than 95% of the music writing i'd find elsewhere if you'd told me that ten years later ilxors would be all over music criticism esp at pfork i would've assumed that obv the state of music criticism had improved, esp at pfork. and i'm not sure it has. then again maybe it has - tom's popular is fantastic and marcello's then play long is really really incredible, but neither of those guys are getting paid. perpetua is. ilx doesn't bear any responsibility for this state of affairs obv.

the wiki edits are easily the funniest thing dom has ever done

i never understood it either. but then i don't go on animal collective threads or whatever he was into so i never saw it. and i didn't follow the whole inside baseball blogosphere thing. if you were into that stuff i guess you would have reasons to be mean? i have no idea.

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nothing but love for voice's old music section, nothing but love for voice's current music section really or at least much love to maura for the molanphy/shipley chart/radio geek rotation - if grantland had pop culture writing similar to this the gulf between their sports writing and pop writing wouldn't be quite so huge, could easily see molanphy as a bill barnwell parallel.

i think pitchfork has some of the best writers around writing for it right now. um, not that i read it much, but occasionally something will get linked and i see good stuff.

i mean i'm just not that interested in a lot of pitchfork type music, but i think the talent is definitely there.

There's a market near me that I know has really excellent pineapple.

I don't particularly like pineapple, but I know it is good.

Uh...

there is this sort of irony that we idolized a certain sort of rockwrite and aspired to it, but the process (writ large) by which we became part of it was also the same process which killed it.

one thing i would love to see is certain ilxors (past or present) taking pieces/ideas they couldn't sell elsewhere and doing kindle singles w/ them. for example would LOVE to see the seward version of this: http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Rock-Albums-1970s-ebook/dp/B006TV1HKQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1336535928&sr=8-1

i hate pineapple

i also used to not understand why lots of good music writers aspired to nothing more than leaving it behind. then, unfortunately, i got it.

My feelings about pitchfork and pineapple are similar.

you find them sweet and chunky?

tom and maura among others have grappled with this -- how could a democratization of the conversation possibly be a bad thing, or at least not an unmitigated good? the straightforward answer is just, i think, lolmarketforces.

xp - lol mookie, real answer: i very rarely consume either

tom and maura among others have grappled with this -- how could a democratization of the conversation possibly be a bad thing, or at least not an unmitigated good? the straightforward answer is just, i think, lolmarketforces.

― s.clover, Tuesday, May 8, 2012 9:06 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the answer, i think, is that morally good /= "i actually want to read what you have to say" good

like, democracy is a wonderful ideal, but a very poor editor

yeah this is stupid as hell but i think i might've actually thought at one point that the easy instant access to music now meant that the descriptive role and judgmental role of rockcrit would fade away (you no longer needed the critic to tell you what a record sounded like or if it was good, you could find that out yrself immediately and in less time than it took to finish a review) and we'd be left w/ actual insight as the goal ie good criticism (or my definition anyway). this didn't happen, if anything the opposite. now post-deluge rockcrit's main role seems to be as a filter, ie i'll check out something if it gets best new music or 4.0 or higher at resident advisor etc but i pretty much never actually read an actual review and i'm not sure i've ever seen lex have any kind of actual insight but as a filter he's very effective, a much better algorithm than pandora or whatever.

^otm^ and made me sort of wistful/sad

My feelings about pitchfork and pineapple are similar.

This seems an appropriate time to mention that Ted Leo once interviewed both me and Perpetua backstage at Pitchfork Music Festival about our taste in fruit.

"chunky"

how could a democratization of the conversation possibly be a bad thing, or at least not an unmitigated good?

LOL comment boxes

actual OLL

democracy, as it happens, sucks

Fruit is great! </rhonda>

that seems like an oversimplification, if for no other reason than how many people on this message board must be overweight, including his tormenters

― some dude

under appreciated some dude posts I have read

nothing but love for voice's old music section, nothing but love for voice's current music section really or at least much love to maura for the molanphy/shipley chart/radio geek rotation - if grantland had pop culture writing similar to this the gulf between their sports writing and pop writing wouldn't be quite so huge, could easily see molanphy as a bill barnwell parallel.

― balls, Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:56 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

aww my love of balls is reciprocated

the irony that chris ott shares his name with a useful internet acronym that describes his writing just now dawned on me

rev going ham on anco is the best btw

and i'm not sure i've ever seen lex have any kind of actual insight but as a filter he's very effective, a much better algorithm than pandora or whatever.

― balls,

That's a bit unfair, I dunno about his reviews but i've seen excellent lex posts full of insight that have made me actually want to check out whatever hes writing about.

I always get happy when balls posts here tbh