Mad Men on AMC • Fifth Season Thread

so i am probably the only person who had no idea cool whip was diary free, and is completely weirded out by this? also Megan jumping ship to become an actress is the first is let down of the series for me.

which one is a bigger deal for you tho

I'm in here with my eyes covered because I'm 4 episodes behind but I just want to say:

LOL DON DRAPER IN A PLAID SPORT COAT LOLOLOL

That coat gave me nightmares.

so sad

Megan is a disappointment because i have enjoyed seeing don happy and sort of growing with a lady, now i feel he will go by the wayside, i guess i thought she could save him in a way. also giving up a real job for a childhood dream while ignoring the partnership she had been creating with don just seems juvenile, after she worked so hard to have the job. but yeah don was respectable, still

oh no way, i thought they telegraphed that having your wife as a coworker/subordinate in that atmosphere with so many crossed lines of obedience and obligation was a total minefield. i wouldn't work there either!

now they get to play with don feeling like his life's work has been insulted and he can't speak or even see that clearly. great!

Yeah megan quitting a) made me like her more because she isn't just living for don's pleasure and b) makes things more interesting.
I def did not get why she was so overwrought w peggy and the creative peons

so we are to believe megan never really cared about working at scdp? that it was not only because her father reprimanded her about her true passion for acting (which is more admirable in the eyes of a marxist than advertising?) but that she had these deep seated resentments building in her? she was the one to pursue the job,i mean it was her idea.

It's actually quite funny watching Peggy being blindsided, confused and a bit butthurt by the revelation that working in advertising maybe isn't the most amazing thing a talented and bright girl might want to do.

Megan comes from an academic upper-middle class background from what I can see and watching that sit awkwardly with these overpriveleged vacuous commercial guys and scrappier types who have worked their way up from the bottom is a perspective we haven't really seen much of yet.

It's also something you see in offices all over the place, how many people feel their academic and other talents are being wasted in even successful, highly-paid jobs? I say go Megan.

The conversation between Joan and Peggy about her was pretty illuminating as well, Joan didn't get Megan, and what Don sees in Megan, at all.

No I think Joan understands both of their basic motivations pretty well (esp. Don's) but what I don't think that Joan understands or is interested in is copy-writing and why someone would or would not find it fulfilling work on a creative level.

"so we are to believe megan never really cared about working at scdp?"

No I think she cared about/was interested in the job until she actually did it and then she realized it wasn't what she wanted. And her father (not because he thought acting was more admirable, but more cause he's a shit disturber) just provided a reminder about her previous cares.

Weirdest sequence was Ginsburg complaining about her not having any money for lunch and owing him?!?! I'm still trying to parse this.

stereotypically Jewish? I dunno, I had trouble w/ understanding that too.

I think Megan's character is making sense... the birthday performance, the acting lessons, the maybe-pretend-angry chases around the house. I think she is a little too 'liberated' for stodgy-ol' Don, and I'm predicting the season's teaser poster (Don inna chair facing a naked mannequin) presages Betty chemo baldness & nude Megan onstage. Don is/will be "embarrassed" by her openness abt. sex, I think?

Haha no I understood Ginsburg complaining about it! I'd complain about that! I didn't understand why she consistently didn't have any money?!

oh, I see. I hadn't even picked up on that – I was too amused by the interaction b/w two of my favorite characters.

Forreals - $15 is a relatively small amount now, esp in NYC, but in 1966? I'd complain, too!

I like your take on the poster, Remy. We've already seen Megan embarass Don with her sexiness once.. Betty's cancer was supposed to be a false alarm though, no?

Betty's continued absence (albeit necessitated by JJ's pregnancy) and trips upstate w/ Henry and the fact that we didn't hear the all-clear from the oncologist leads me to believe she might be feigning wellness. (Even from him?)

I can see that, though I do agree she's probably upstate a lot because of JJ's pregnancy.

Haha no I understood Ginsburg complaining about it! I'd complain about that! I didn't understand why she consistently didn't have any money?!

Megan is a princess

A princess who fronts Queen.

megan not having any money = during the workday she operates within her own salary, which is pretty low. she could have a roll of bills from don everyday but doesn't. it think it was meant to show she really was trying to be a team player.

(an effort constantly stymied by don yanking her out of work all the time)

peggy saying "she's one of those girls who's good at everything" was p interesting

megan not having any money = during the workday she operates within her own salary, which is pretty low. she could have a roll of bills from don everyday but doesn't. it think it was meant to show she really was trying to be a team player.

Either that or Don was the person who carried cash on him and she never put much thought into bringing money to work for things like lunch.

hmm yeah those are opposing theories but both plausible!

OR THAT WAS HER PLAN ALL ALONG

lunch heist

No I think Joan understands both of their basic motivations pretty well (esp. Don's) but what I don't think that Joan understands or is interested in is copy-writing and why someone would or would not find it fulfilling work on a creative level.

this is OTM. think she nailed Don + Megan's relationship apart from the creative angle.

Megan otm imo. They've been building her up through various performances (Zu Bee Zu, that last pitch with Don, even roleplaying w Don) and people in general being entranced with her as she is a natural performer or something. I think the show will definitely have her get into that world professionally, it's not just a dumb childhood dream, and good for her stepping aside when there are probably plenty of aspiring copyrighters that are not married to a wealthy Ad Exec that affords them the opportunity to pursue such a career.

it's totally a dumb childhood dream, she's trying to break into a career that at best will offer her, given her current age, maybe a decade's worth of work.

the odds that she's gonna leave Don seem pretty high to me

she doesn't respect what he does, he's going to get older and out of touch, he can't tie her to him with children - eventually she's going to just treat him like a piggybank and they're both going to resent the other

right, don't need to watch the rest of the season then

the miracle whip run-through with don & megan was so great, it was a real "mulholland drive audition" scene

good ref

right, don't need to watch the rest of the season then

haha well this show makes a habit out of confounding expectations so I could be totally wrong - at this point in the show though, the long-term chances of their marriage seem pretty slim to me

the miracle whip run-through with don & megan was so great, it was a real "mulholland drive audition" scene

wait, they were taste-testing mayonnaise? gross.

haha what's it called? cool whip.

hey they're both the same color

megan leaves don or don drives away megan; betty is sick and needs some sort of succor that weird hank can't provide her, don and betty arrive at some kind of understanding.

the phrase "weird hank" is kind of grossing me out

but otherwise sure I can see that

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRngTZUMjfeI3Q6-jQLNk5nvyghYesrHEbMt-FLOHBbQfXCmaaDqtCD8DmM6Q

Why would the ever prominently feature Betty again? People hate Betty.

Oh right, that's how tv works.

lol @ "copyrighters"

I think they're setting us up for Don and Joan.

that will never happen. they're both too good looking for each other.

I'm predicting the season's teaser poster (Don inna chair facing a naked mannequin) presages Betty chemo baldness & nude Megan onstage. Don is/will be "embarrassed" by her openness abt. sex, I think?

― et tu, twinkletoes? (remy bean), Wednesday, May 9, 2012 7:38 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think they're setting us up for Don and Joan.

― America's Mobile, Wednesday, May 9, 2012 1:09 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

both u dudes are nuts!