Jean-Luc Godard: S and D

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the title sounds like something a daily show correspondent would have to make up if godard somehow did something newsworthy

film socialisme was half p good half waste

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

so no subtitles at all maybe

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

slow down JLG -- not seen Film Socialisme yet!

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

ha i was wondering how wild bunch are a going concern after the commercial disaster of enter the void but it seems they financed that last pos that won all the oscars

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

Is the main Godard thread? Doesn't seem to be a poll...Having seen Vivre sa vie three times now, and Breathless at least five or six (double-bill tonight), I can say unequivocally I prefer Vivre sa vie. The long bedroom scene in Breathless loses me every time, and while I know the jump-cutting changed film history, I otherwise don't find it all that interesting a film visually. Vivre sa vie is very beautiful: that refrain that plays over and over again, the perfectly timed fade-outs, the shots of Karina silhouetted against the window, the Jeanne d'Arc juxtaposition, etc. It seems to be less famous than a whole bunch of Godard films, but it's one of my two or three favourites of those that I've seen.

clemenza, Friday, 10 August 2012 03:09 (eleven years ago) link

Just the other day I read the Spanish magazine with a 140 pages issue dedicated to Film Socialisme on that Dr Morbius link and my jaw is still on the floor. I have tried to watch that movie like three or four times since I dl'ed it with Navajo subtitles but have failed every time due to irritation (why can't I speak French like a cultured person right etc.) but you can tell there is something genuinely new and exciting going on there. Just one example from the mag, there is this French collective that took the job to figure out the main plot and wrote 20+ pages of hints and references, for starters ... I love the crazy footage on the cruise, what about the final section? Those images! This is some next level Autechre, Finnegan's Wake Impossible Art from the Future type stuff.

From Film Quarterly:
"In FS common knowledge has disappeared, everything is in code."

S:
Contempt
Notre Musique
In Praise of Love

w/e:
Breathless
Alphaville
Weekend

wolves lacan, Friday, 10 August 2012 04:33 (eleven years ago) link

i've been watching the d-v era films as i've been able to find them over the last couple years. oof that's some rough going.

big-mammed punisher (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 10 August 2012 04:48 (eleven years ago) link

Breathless gets more of a write-up as it was the first JLG movie, but Vivre Sa Vie is easily better.

Love Here and Elsewhere which i think makes the d-v era G more than worthwhile.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 11 August 2012 09:50 (eleven years ago) link

^^^ i love this film

judith, Saturday, 11 August 2012 10:04 (eleven years ago) link

just rewatched JLG /JLG, among his very best from '75-00

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 11 August 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link

Regretfully skipped 2 or 3 Things and Pierrot le fou last night (I've seen both)--just wasn't up to four in two nights.

clemenza, Saturday, 11 August 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

what's d-v era?

jed_, Saturday, 11 August 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

dziga vertov group

judith, Saturday, 11 August 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

^^AKA his films from '68-'73.

Jeremy Spencer Slid in Class Today (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 11 August 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link

cheers

jed_, Saturday, 11 August 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link

I like tout va bien a lot, that's d-v era, no?

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Sunday, 12 August 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

In the middle of watching Histoire(s) du Cinema.... I pity any neophyte who sees this in the S&S 50 and leaps in.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 12 August 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

Tout va Bien is considered to be d-v, iirc

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 12 August 2012 22:47 (eleven years ago) link

^^It and the follow-up Letter To Jane were the final official D-V projects. One of their unfinished projects (a film about the PLO) was revived and released as Ici et Ailleurs (Here and Elsewhere) in '76.

Jeremy Spencer Slid in Class Today (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 12 August 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link

netflix instant has 'film socialisme'

this is sort of captivating but i'm only a little ways in - there are only bits of english subtitles on this version? they are accurate as far as the main things that people are saying, i just can't tell if it's totally incomprehensible if you don't have the larger context

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3U0udLH974

"meow! that's what ancient egyptians called their cats"

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 13 August 2012 01:11 (eleven years ago) link

The comment above about FS being half tripe is otm. as a piece I probably "enjoyed" Notre musique a little more.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 August 2012 01:15 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i've never really enjoyed "breathless" but "pierrot le fou" is probably in my all-time top 10, not

http://a1.smlycdn.com/data/product2/1/821a744d16f39e6e11019db2b87542238573a7c5_m.jpg

the late great, Monday, 13 August 2012 01:17 (eleven years ago) link

that "not" should not be there

the late great, Monday, 13 August 2012 01:18 (eleven years ago) link

'pierrot le fou' is the greatest

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 13 August 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link

contempt is the one i love

buzza, Monday, 13 August 2012 01:25 (eleven years ago) link

i haven't seen contempt in forever

would like to see a bertolucci vs godard t/s

the late great, Monday, 13 August 2012 01:26 (eleven years ago) link

well actually maybe more just "the conformist" vs "pierrot le fou"

the late great, Monday, 13 August 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link

Belmondo sooooo hot in PLF.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 August 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link

they're the all-time hot couple imo

the late great, Monday, 13 August 2012 01:29 (eleven years ago) link

also in 'une femme est une femme' <3

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 13 August 2012 01:30 (eleven years ago) link

While we're crushing: Juliet Berto, Maoist of my dreams

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l1fi4cxXd51qa91cwo1_400.jpg

Jeremy Spencer Slid in Class Today (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 13 August 2012 01:55 (eleven years ago) link

Also want to note the PLF scissors bit homage in Moonrise Kingdom.

Jeremy Spencer Slid in Class Today (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 13 August 2012 02:01 (eleven years ago) link

After viewing the 2010 Criterion reissue of My Life to Live I'm prepared to place it in his top three. I haven't seen the thing since a scratchy PBS showing in '95.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

Like everything of Godard's I go back to these days, Week End made much more sense to me tonight than when I used to struggle with it. Don't know if I'd ever prefer it to Band of Outsiders of Masculin Feminin, but as great as the earlier films are, I'd still say he's a half-step behind Dylan and the Beatles and pop music in general. (A half-step behind in what? I'd try to explain, but I'll ramble.) Week End, though, is amazingly all over all the bad stuff that's about to happen. The last 20 minutes especially felt like you were inside the Spahn Ranch or something.

clemenza, Friday, 17 August 2012 04:06 (eleven years ago) link

Coming out in Blu-Ray via Criterion, and I'm stoked for it. Only seen it once, and that was a decade ago.

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Friday, 17 August 2012 04:09 (eleven years ago) link

Juliet Berto, gorgeous as always, even in blood-spattered revolutionary garb.

clemenza, Friday, 17 August 2012 04:17 (eleven years ago) link

Could've done without the pig's slaughter in Weekend while still agreeing it is a special document of the time.

Loo Reading (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 17 August 2012 04:25 (eleven years ago) link

I had no idea Juliet Berto died in 1990 at the age of 40. Bummer.

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Friday, 17 August 2012 04:27 (eleven years ago) link

Some Cahiers lists from Godard:

http://alumnus.caltech.edu/~ejohnson/critics/godard.html

clemenza, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 02:05 (eleven years ago) link

I bought Histoire, looking forward to watching it

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 02:07 (eleven years ago) link

I took it up to the counter for rental yesterday, but postponed when they had Three Women; I'm going to get it when I return the Altman.

clemenza, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 02:08 (eleven years ago) link

all D-V projects: http://ubu.com/film/dziga_vertov.html

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Saturday, 25 August 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

nice one thx

the late great, Saturday, 25 August 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

i forget how deeeeeep ubuweb goes

the late great, Saturday, 25 August 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

while we're crushing

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs3/1450604_o.gif

the late great, Saturday, 25 August 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

most beautiful woman of all time probably

the late great, Saturday, 25 August 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

anna karina vs catherine deneuve

wolves lacan, Sunday, 26 August 2012 00:40 (eleven years ago) link

Anna Karina = classic babe for ILM dudes

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 26 August 2012 00:43 (eleven years ago) link

seeing that scene for the first time was like a deep & expansive cinematic ~moment~ for me

very sexual album (schlump), Sunday, 26 August 2012 00:56 (eleven years ago) link


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