Britpop era follow up to successful albums poll

The first Silver Sun album is genuinely great powerpop throughout, plus their 2000s albums are much, much better than 'Neo Wave'.

man what a huge load of shit

went for C'mon Kids... In my head I've written one of those 33 1/3 books about that album focussing on its classic status as follow up album to successful britpop release.

essentially, this thread in small book form.

even geir's posts?

i expect a lot of albums to get no votes here

Well, I voted "menace"

i dont think i ever heard it tbh. probably haven't heard most of these albums mind you. For everyone saying its a depressing list and its proof the 90s were bad.. just remember most of these sold sod all.

C'mon Kids is the one of these I've listened to recently and thought it still sounded fresh and good.

( and if This Is Hardcore is on here, why not OK Computer? )

(because that one was reasonably successful compared to the previous album)

(OK, TIHArdcore got to number one, etc)

the ads say drink bottled water
but we know that it tastes of pee
should be getting our tampons free
d.i.y. gynecology

impossible not to vote for pulp here...though i had no idea kula shaker had a second album, maybe i should listen to that before i cast my vote SIKE

i never heard that suede album either but i didn't even really care for coming up/post bernard butler suede.

i remember enjoying the great escape at the time but most of blur's stuff has not held up for me and i find myself just cringing at everything damon albarn does.

love 1st 3 Suede but man those 2 horrible horrible albums make me want to punch brett.

Trash is my favourite Suede song. Is that on it?

Trash is on Coming Up. Head Music had.. umm.. 'give me head, give me head, give me head muuuusic insteaaad' *looks up tracklisting* Electricity, She's in Fashion, Can't Get Enough.

no those sound shit.

they are

i want to start a thread for horrible album cover art from 1998-2002 era that looks like it was knocked up in photoshop in about 10 seconds and now plagues the shelves in Poundland up and down the country.

Prime examples:

http://www.140db.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/danton-supple-albums/suede-head-music.jpg

http://img.noiset.com/images/album/manic-street-preachers-lifeblood-cd-album-art-2051.jpeg

The London Suede?

This is even worse:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/af/A_new_morning.jpg

We had to call them the London Suede in North America because there was some country(?) act named Suede already. Ditto Bush "X"

charlatans uk?

i dont remember Nirvana US for some reason

feel schitzo everso psycho
Kicking at an old tin can
I feel real like a man like a woman,
Like a woman, like a man
I make deadspace feel like a head case
Take it like a teenage tough
I feel real now watching those wheels
And shaking that stuff,
Singing "I can't get enough"
Singing "I can't get enough"

Singing "I can't get enough"
Singing "I can't get enough"

Read more at http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/16617/#SSR7HiYP8lY8ow9U.99!

i dont remember Nirvana US for some reason

Nirvana paid Nirvana off

Yeah, Nirvana (US) agreed not to pass themselves off as a psychedelic band ever.

At which point, post agreement, Nirvana (UK) released a cover version of "Lithium".

The only thing worse that Brett on smack'n'crack was Brett cleaning up. 'Head Music' ("great big crack" indeed) is bad in places but 'A New Morning' is terrible.

― 'scuse me, while I Rim the Sky... (snoball), Friday, May 4, 2012 8:50 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If those were the ONLY TWO Suede albums that existed, and I were forced by gunpoint to listen to one of them, I'd choose A New Morning without any hesitation or doubt. I don't think either are very good, but A New Morning would win out just because it's got 'Obsessions' on it. I love those first three Suede albums, though, and the 'Sci-Fi Lullabies' B-side compilation (ESPECIALLY THE FIRST DISC) is essential, IMO.

feel schitzo everso psycho
Kicking at an old tin can
I feel real like a man like a woman,
Like a woman, like a man
I make deadspace feel like a head case
Take it like a teenage tough
I feel real now watching those wheels
And shaking that stuff,
Singing "I can't get enough"
Singing "I can't get enough"

Singing "I can't get enough"
Singing "I can't get enough"

Read more at http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/16617/#SSR7HiYP8lY8ow9U.99!

― thomp, Tuesday, May 8, 2012 4:41 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

She live in a house, she stupid as a mouse
And she going where the lights are on
She's shaking obscene like a fucking machine and she's gone, gone, gone...
She's cooking crack giving us heart attack

etc. etc.

still love that manics album.

She live in a house, she stupid as a mouse

See, I like that song

To be fair, he was on crack

my mate saw suede on the head music tour and said it was great and that the songs were really good live and that it was the production on the album that was really bad (despite the melody maker review praising it). The album after was just pure shite though.

i sold head music actually way back. was so disappointed in it. its something i never do either.

She live in a house, she stupid as a mouse

I think the album is fun because it is so stupid (like these lyrics), but I would never seriously try to convince anyone that this album is any good.

it's not like the guy has an inflated sense of his lyrical talent or anything

Heh, quite a few in this list I came >>this<< close to buying, but thankfully didn't. Don't have In It For The Money but do own all the singles from it on 7", so voting for that.

it's not like the guy has an inflated sense of his lyrical talent or anything

OMG someone please buy this for me, it would be like having a Tommy Wiseau signed copy of The Room.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

The Menace

head music is better than coming up imo. actually some of the remixes on the head music singles are among my favourite suede tracks (partic the lironi version of she's in fashion)

my mate saw suede on the head music tour and said it was great and that the songs were really good live and that it was the production on the album that was really bad (despite the melody maker review praising it). The album after was just pure shite though.

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 18:07 (Yesterday) Permalink

I saw Suede at V Festival in 1999... I don't think Head Music had been out for very long, and I do remember the songs coming across much, much better live. From what I can glean from the Suede book 'Love And Poison', the album was pretty much created from samples of the band as opposed to any kind of live playing. It's a very sterile sounding record. Production aside, there are some shockingly bad songs on the record, and the lyrics have to easily rank as some of Brett Anderson's worst. He always did have his lyrical crutches, but on Head Music he pretty much leans every single last one of them. You can tell his mind was elsewhere.

*leans ON

Really odd to think Melody Maker made Head Music their album of the year in 1999. I think it has some good moments, Electricty, Everything Will Flow, Asbestos and Hi-Fi are all good songs but of course its not in the same league as the first three albums. A New Morning is just rubbish. Obsessions and You Belong to me are the only keepers. The best tracks from that period were B-sides or bonus tracks (Simon, Cheap and Oceans) I remember in the NME they did a review of a live show they did in Iceland late 2000 prasing the new material. I was really excited to hear those new songs, but another two years went by and everyone had just moved on. Instead of following the original plan of doing an album of acoustic ballads they tossed off songs like Street Life and Your Beautiful Loser, thinking that's what the fans wanted.

I totally agree with Turrican about the first three albums being solid plus Sci-Fi Lullabies which is essentialy a great double album. That's a lot of great songs in just over five years.

its all you need really. MM started to lose me when they made Catatonia AOY but when they gave Head Music it too that was it for me. Couldn't trust them no more! Same went for Suede.

I'd have to listen to it a second time to be sure, but from what I remember, The Menace was easily the biggest drop-off and disappointment on this list.

Also:
Nirvana paid Nirvana off

But did they pay the other Nirvana off?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbcHYzKHgq0

yeah, i love the elastica debut but if any band didn't need to make a second album...

the elastica album isn't great, but if it (a) had come out after 18 months rather than 5 years and didn't have almost the entire preceding EP on it (i.e. that EP was never released) it would be more fondly remembered

should have been a (b) in there

i properly loved Elastica MK1 and still have the setlist from their 5th ever gig just after signing a deal, but this is a very under-rated track off the second album and one of my faves. the ultimate post-Britpop-comedown song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jug2yCNVG40

its all you need really. MM started to lose me when they made Catatonia AOY but when they gave Head Music it too that was it for me. Couldn't trust them no more! Same went for Suede.

― it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:59 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I keep forgetting that International Velvet was so highly praised! Even at the time I thought that was a very patchy album, and a massive, MASSIVE step down from Way Beyond Blue. Equally Cursed & Blessed was even patchier, and the other one after (the name of which I can't recall) isn't even worth talking about.

I find it funny that Dafydd Ieuan, the drummer of Super Furry Animals, was once a member of Catatonia. In fact, he plays drums on quite a great deal of Way Beyond Blue, but left to help get Super Furry Animals off the ground. It's funny because International Velvet was arguably more of a commercial success than any Super Furry Animals album, and 'Mulder And Scully' and 'Road Rage' were much bigger hits than pretty much every single that Super Furry Animals released. Now, Catatonia are seen as somewhat of a joke, and Super Furry Animals seem to still be very much respected.

Fwiw, I actually like Way Beyond Blue...

Way Beyond Blue wasn't a great album but it was by far the strongest of the first three (never heard the fourth) Bleed is an excellent single.

The Menace was a complete mess but I still really enjoy most of it. My Sex is indeed one of the higlights. The debut is probably one of my top five albums of the 90's.