commercially disappointing major label rock/alternative albums of 1996

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er xp, freakonica i mean

goole, Saturday, 5 May 2012 02:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

1st track was great iirc

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 5 May 2012 02:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

Would have been their perfect final album had they quit at this point,

Absolutely. They very nearly redeemed themselves with this, having rediscovered the joy of playing live/as a unit. Guess that pesky $80 million Warners contract wouldn't allow them to bow out so easily, though.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Saturday, 5 May 2012 02:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

Freak*On*Ica - Let's just pretend it didn't happen. GvB broke up after House of GvsB.

earlnash, Saturday, 5 May 2012 03:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

Guess that pesky $80 million Warners contract wouldn't allow them to bow out so easily, though.

Absolutely no reason to make any insinuation about this.

timellison, Saturday, 5 May 2012 03:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

Just sayin', if they thought at that time "Yep, we're done," their contract wouldn't allow them to stop (at least, not without paying back the advance).

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Saturday, 5 May 2012 04:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol you have no idea what you're talking about

balls, Saturday, 5 May 2012 04:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

So after signing an $80 million contract, they could've just walked away? Interesting. I'd love to hear about how that would work. (I'm being sincere, by the way; how would they have gone about that?)

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Saturday, 5 May 2012 04:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

Freak*On*Ica - Let's just pretend it didn't happen. GvB broke up after House of GvsB.

man has there ever been a band that dropped the ball harder than GvsB

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 5 May 2012 06:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

So after signing an $80 million contract, they could've just walked away? Interesting. I'd love to hear about how that would work. (I'm being sincere, by the way; how would they have gone about that?)

the first thing you wanna remember about contracts like that by the way is here's how they don't work: you sign a contract and then they send you a check for the full amount. most such contracts stipulate the number of releases the figure in question buys, with dates and amounts of dollar distribution linked to delivery of albums, and probably, with a contract that big, certain amounts of touring stipulated, promotional assistance, etc. A recording is not "here's a bunch of money, enjoy," they're really baroque arrangements. However, when a band is as big as REM, the contract almost doubtless includes "in the event of" clauses that include "in case the band no longer wants to make records" thing that sunset the future $ distributions w/o penalty to the band, and that's the sort of lawyerly strongarming that labels just have to eat if they want the marquee act

you or I would not have the luxury of get-out-of-jail-free clauses but REM almost surely does

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 5 May 2012 06:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

Thanks for the explanation, aero. Some of that I knew (artists don't get the full amount up front), some of it I didn't ("in case shit" clauses). Most of the situations I'm familiar with involved lower- or mid-level bands, but I do know of at least one instance where a band had to pay back their advance (or whatever portion of it they'd just received) when they broke up (the Who with Warners).

Apologies for the thread derail. Carry on.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm gonna listen to as much of wax ecstatic as i can until i have to pick my gf up

call all destroyer, Saturday, 5 May 2012 17:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

this may not have been a great idea

call all destroyer, Saturday, 5 May 2012 17:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 minutes too long.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 5 May 2012 17:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

i still like the little squealy riff from the song wax ecstatic, but my good everything else. the rhythm section of this band is a bunch of fucking stiffs

call all destroyer, Saturday, 5 May 2012 17:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

Originally intended to be a concept album revolving around the death of a Memphis drag queen, that idea was aborted, though many of the tracks that ended up making the cut originated from this idea.

this makes track 4, the drag queens of memphis, slightly less inexplicable but it's a horrible woozy genre exercise. you're supposed to save those for the second half of the album guys!

call all destroyer, Saturday, 5 May 2012 17:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm gonna listen to as much of wax ecstatic as i can until i have to pick my gf up

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this may not have been a great idea

― call all destroyer, Saturday, May 5, 2012 1:25 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

some dude, Saturday, 5 May 2012 17:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

man you can't listen to the actual recording of "molly" on spotify which is their only ok song.

actually i'm listening to it on youtube and it's better than ok.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 5 May 2012 17:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

amped-up jangle rock shouldve been more of a thing

call all destroyer, Saturday, 5 May 2012 17:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Plowed" is a pretty decent song.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 5 May 2012 17:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah i'm always on the fence about plowed.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 5 May 2012 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

listening to it now, the chord progression thru the verse is nice

call all destroyer, Saturday, 5 May 2012 17:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

jesus, youtube really wants me to watch the video for "in the meantime"

fine youtube, happy now?

call all destroyer, Saturday, 5 May 2012 17:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

''Mungo City'' would sit well on this thread.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 5 May 2012 19:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

otm. does that album have a cult following or am i making that up?

call all destroyer, Saturday, 5 May 2012 19:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 10 May 2012 00:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

bump

some dude, Thursday, 10 May 2012 03:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

Tiny Music... Songs From The Vatican Gift Shop

Bee OK, Thursday, 10 May 2012 03:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

really debating which one of these album titles makes the best euphemism for alienating a fanbase. "oh yeah, they Razorblade Suitcased that shit up on that one." "jesus, they dropped a Fairweather Johnson on that second abum." "you think they went Tiny Music last time? this one is straight up Friction, Baby."

some dude, Thursday, 10 May 2012 04:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

fyi i still probably listen to no code ~10 times per year.

one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 10 May 2012 04:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

I never really got that into No Code, not like I did the previous three. That was where I got off the PJ train, in fact. Aside from "Hail, Hail", which is pretty killer, I remember more about the packaging gimmicks than I do about the music. And that was during a summer when it was rattling around in my backpack with about 15 other tapes that were on near-constant Walkman rotation. It wasn't bad, but it just wasn't my thing (anymore).

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 10 May 2012 04:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

And I have a deep emotional connection to most of those other albums (New Adventures In Hi-Fi, Sebadoh's Harmacy, Cibo Matto's Viva La Woman, and the Kids soundtrack, among others) as a result of the trials of that summer that's strangely absent wrt No Code.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 10 May 2012 04:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

Sebadoh's Harmacy, Cibo Matto's Viva La Woman, and the Kids soundtrack

what a time to be alive

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 05:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

Missing Poll Choice:

Leslie Mann: Boner Machine (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 10 May 2012 05:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

When I was 16 IIRC my top 5 albums of 1996 went something like 1. Tiny music 2. odelay 3. she's the one 4. evil empire 5. sublime s/t

billstevejim, Thursday, 10 May 2012 08:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah i loved tiny music when i was 12 or 13. thank god i got into indie rock.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 10 May 2012 11:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

Dust vs. Black Love vs New Adventures for me. I'm going to plump for New Adventures but it's very close. Probably sold more than anything except the Metallica album now I come to think of it.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Thursday, 10 May 2012 12:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

I never realised so many people liked No Code... I remember in the late '90s I couldn't find a single person who had anything good to say about the record!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

Are we supposed to choose the one we like or the most disappointing one?

broom air, Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

that petty soundtrack is kind of great -- if only it weren't saddled to that horrible horrible movie.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

Voting for best/favorite/etc.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

I love that She's The One soundtrack, despite association with Ed Burns bleeeeegggggggghh

"Walls (Circus)" is still one of my favorite later-Petty songs

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Walls" is rull good. I used to listen to She's The One while playing PC games. Also I didn't realize "Asshole" was a Beck cover until I bought One Foot In The Grave a year or 2 later.

billstevejim, Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

Considering the success of Wallflowers and "Mary Jane's Last Dance," I'd say She's The One would've fit into this poll perfectly.

billstevejim, Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 11 May 2012 00:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

otoh

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Friday, 11 May 2012 00:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

did markers vote twice?

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 11 May 2012 00:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

Porno For Pyros - Good God's Urge 4

wau

mookieproof, Friday, 11 May 2012 00:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

Stone Temple Pilots 6

It appears I don't understand a lot more things in this world than I thought

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 11 May 2012 00:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

The Cranberries - To The Faithful Departed 0

DAMN RIGHT! :D

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 11 May 2012 00:29 (1 year ago) Permalink


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