well i meant more guitarists that 20somethings listen to MORE than 30somethings and 40somethings. lots of young people still listen to Nirvana and Sabbath, but not necessarily more than the olds did or do.
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 15:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
no i agree obv hip hop and newer guitarists like skrillex mean this gen is like um less rockist and stuff, but i guess i'm always surprised by how much that stuff endures! just like david bowie is still cool or whatever, and he was old tyme stuff for me, much less kids today
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 May 2012 15:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
david bowie really should've had a challop entry on the list
― some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 15:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, it's kinda weird for me too. When I was a kid, like 1950s stuff wasn't very cool - Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Buddy Holly. Don't know if it is now or not. And so my gut expectation would be for today's youth to dismiss Led Zeppelin or something in a similar way, I guess. But that's not really how it works out.
xp
― how's life, Friday, 4 May 2012 15:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
Obviously Skrillex at 100 is some "informed trolling" but there is a point to it I suppose. If you're looking to include a token person using "guitar textures" to make interesting music Fennesz is a much more defensible inclusion. Other notable exclusions at first blush (in rough order of WTF-ness): Dean Warhem, Loren Connors, Michio Kurihara, Richard Bishop, Jeff Parker, Jack Rose, Ben Chasny, Keith Rowe. Would be very interested to hear how the selection process went down.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
i don't think it really matters in the end. who was included. as i said earlier on this thread, A+ job by whiney to make people think about Spin in 2012. that's the important thing.
― scott seward, Friday, 4 May 2012 16:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
Spin-magazines-top-100-guitarists-of-all-time-Skrillex-is-100-Jam-Master-Jay-is-10-no-Hendrix-Page-Van-Halen-in-sight-Oooh-edgy
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
i like that reading the url means i don't have to actually read the article.
― tylerw, Friday, 4 May 2012 16:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
If you're looking to include a token person using "guitar textures" to make interesting music Fennesz is a much more defensible inclusion
well yeah, seeing as he actually is a guitarist
― Number None, Friday, 4 May 2012 16:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
xp it's not an article as much as people complaining about the lack of Buckethead and Flea
I like that list Whiney, fwiw, but guitar people reactions to this are even better, I didn't know before that hearing about SY is some king of obscure, arcane knowledge
― V79, Friday, 4 May 2012 16:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
now do the top 100 electronic artists and put jimi at #100you know you want to
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
(i want a byline credit if you do this btw)
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
I didn't know before that hearing about SY is some king of obscure, arcane knowledge
Oh god, this.
No STEVE LUKATHER??? The people at Spin are Spun. That list is worthless and is an offense to any good guitar player that really understands what it takes to be a master of the instrument. I'm surprised that list doesn't include Tiny Tim and Don Ho.
― how's life, Friday, 4 May 2012 17:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
The people at Spin are Spun
BURN
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 May 2012 17:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol guitar people
― call all destroyer, Friday, 4 May 2012 17:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
MAN do they love them some steve lukather
Steven Lee "Luke" Lukather (born October 21, 1957) is an American guitarist, singer, songwriter, arranger, and record producer best known for his work with the rock band Toto. A prolific session musician, Lukather has recorded guitar tracks for more than 1,500 albums representing a broad array of artists and genres. He has also contributed to albums and hit singles as a songwriter, arranger, and producer. Lukather has released six solo studio albums, and he is currently working on his seventh.
holy shit
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 May 2012 17:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
― scott seward, Friday, 4 May 2012 17:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
cool forehead
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 May 2012 17:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
― call all destroyer, Friday, 4 May 2012 17:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
you'd think guy fieri wouldn't use an alias for his career as a guitarist, but i guess the world is just a weird place
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 17:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
Hah! And wow, an Ovation and 50 guitar picks on the mic stand. Can one possibly drop/shred through that many picks in one show, especially if someone is a professional?
― grandavis, Friday, 4 May 2012 17:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
I think there's a tendency for the older Gen X'er to adopt the fake-out punk attitude of "pink floyd sucks" which in its way is bleed-over from the boomer attitude against 50s music, but I think more and more people are seeing music as a cultural continuum and not some identity war. I live across the street from a high school and I see a wide spectrum of eras and styles represented on t-shirts when class lets out: Beatles, Misfits, Iron Maiden, Cure, Led Zep, The Who, etc.
― Ask The Answer Man (sexyDancer), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
Sounds just like the 60s and 70s to me.
― booblights and the eternal frustration (how's life), Friday, 4 May 2012 21:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
there was one kid with a Nirvana shirt as well
― Number None, Friday, 4 May 2012 22:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
classic rock will always have a home with white kids who are slightly uncool
― call all destroyer, Friday, 4 May 2012 22:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
― grandavis, Friday, May 4, 2012 1:37 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
One can when one is constantly tossing them to the audience.
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Friday, 4 May 2012 22:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
BTW this high school is 99% mexican american.
― Ask The Answer Man (sexyDancer), Friday, 4 May 2012 22:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
Lukather really is a monster & I have him to thank for turning me on to Allan Holdsworth so he's cool w/me
― cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 5 May 2012 00:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol bernard sumner
i love JD but c'mon, dude was barely a step above sid vicious in terms of suckiness
― cock chirea, Saturday, 5 May 2012 00:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
he is a truly terrible guitarist who's made some life-changing records for sure
― cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 5 May 2012 00:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Ask The Answer Man (sexyDancer), Friday, May 4, 2012 4:17 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark
lol this is otm, and also explains this list made by older gen x'ers
― some dude, Saturday, 5 May 2012 00:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
to be fair, though, bernard sucks even worse at singing. hahaha!
but its all moot. dude played guitar on ceremony! he belongs on every greatest list ever written.
― scott seward, Saturday, 5 May 2012 01:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
wtf people his solos in "Shadowplay," "Ceremony," and "Age of Consent."
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 5 May 2012 01:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
you don't have to tell me. he was in my 2nd fave band ever. i love him. even if he sucks.
― scott seward, Saturday, 5 May 2012 02:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
two of our students snuck backstage to see New Order when they played Ultra. He and the ugly Hooky replacement praised their ingenuity and the four of them had beers on the lawn for a good half hour. Barney even recorded a station ID.
Steve and Gillian didn't make an appearance.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 5 May 2012 02:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
the primary word in "SPIN's 100 Greatest Guitar Players of All Time" isn't "All-Time" but is, in fact "SPIN"
that caveat puts it on a par with Dr Morbius' 100 Greatest Comic-Book Movies
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 May 2012 19:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
plus prince is a lame inclusion cuz he's such a classic rock showoff anyway, he's totally RS bait
if youre not gonna put son house or jimmy page on the list then for christ's sakes don't put jack white on it.
This is basically why the list seems so weird to me. It would actually be interesting to see a list of avant-garde guitarists (where you'd include some of the people MFB mentioned) or a list of postpunk guitarists but including Prince and Eddie Hazel in the top 10 (who are really obviously Hendrix-influenced) and then excluding Jimi Hendrix altogether just seems perverse. Like, Frank Zappa was egalitarian and humble? Really? He was not so far off from Jeff Beck's aesthetic, really, only with less taste and restraint.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 7 May 2012 20:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
Prince and Eddie Hazel in the top 10 (who are really obviously Hendrix-influenced) and then excluding Jimi Hendrix altogether just seems perverse
agreed
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 May 2012 20:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah and zappa i really like high level guitar mag stuff, what you get into once you graduate from the entry level guitar mag jackoff stuff
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 May 2012 20:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
tbrr I can barely make it through an entire Hendrix album, while Prince and Hazel are like all-time godz to me so eh I don't really see the problem
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 May 2012 20:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
no randi? no zakk? no satch? no eric FRIGGIN clapton? this list is a joke. it is meaningless to me.
― booblights and the eternal frustration (how's life), Monday, 7 May 2012 20:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 7 May 2012 20:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
these jokers at spin must be hipsters with no understanding of music.
― booblights and the eternal frustration (how's life), Monday, 7 May 2012 20:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
saw that comment a lot "they dont understand MUSIC"
― booblights and the eternal frustration (how's life), Monday, 7 May 2012 20:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
david t chastain was robbed
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 May 2012 20:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
free paul gilbert
no alex skolnick, no peaceknow alex skolnick, know peace
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 May 2012 20:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
really think Whiney should've put Chris Carraba on the list
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 7 May 2012 20:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
when they came for the gary moore records......i said nothing