Spotify - anyone heard of it?

I feel like the labels are more to blame here if they are letting Spotify use their music on economic terms that are not in their favor.

"making something free will not stop people buying it" is slightly flawed logic imo

there's something of a - > ??? - > PROFIT issue, yes

Moodles OTM, if you feel Spotify isn't returning value, renegotiate your contract.

oh dear
http://www.fellody.com/

matchmaking app for spotify. it supposedly matches up people in your area who have similar taste.

no thanks i dont want big hairy bearded spotify users contacting me! male or female

Don't be afraid of intimacy!

Bob Dylan has heard of it.

Because his stuff came and went and came back again?

Well, until tonight it'd been gone since I had Spotify...

I always thought he was gone, so thanks for the tip. But brief glance at intranetz seems to say he came back in the beginning of February.

Yeah hadn't checked yet. One of the things that's hilarious is that not only are all his Columbia records on it -- so are all the budget three-packs and the like.

Loving the great compilations on here...stuff that might cost $28 at Tower back in the day.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d195/richhunt35/rootsofdrone.jpg

oh dear
http://www.fellody.com/

matchmaking app for spotify. it supposedly matches up people in your area who have similar taste.

no thanks i dont want big hairy bearded spotify users contacting me! male or female

Fellody bills itself as a means for finding people to meet up with for concerts, not merely a dating app. That actually would be quite useful for people like me who find themselves frequently going to live performances alone because my eclectic musical tastes dictate a low likelihood of having friends who want to see a band they've never heard of (or don't like).

This must be an issue for lots of us. If you want to see a live show by an obscure band that your spouse/friends/others don't want to pay to see, do you call around (or look online) for someone to go with, or do you just go alone? If the former, what means do you use to find someone? Online forums? Facebook et al.? Music websites? Blogs? Send a group text to your friends?

Obvious answer: go alone.

go with a stranger to stand next to a bunch of strangers? what's the point?

stranger things have happened

a stranger is just a friend you haven't met yet... (sorry)

anyway, last.fm does something similar over here - will list people attending events and even recommend people from your friends who might like to attend based on their playlists.

go with a stranger to stand next to a bunch of strangers? what's the point?

point is they don't stay strangers for long, and I have someone to talk with about a shared musical interest before and after the show.

i've never been a good loner, but i do often go to concerts alone and have learned over the years to like it. If I go with friends, I wind up talking with my friends, but if I go alone, I strike up or join conversations with anyone that seems interesting and meet new people (tactfully of course - I do realize not everyone is up for gab). Striking up conversations is especially easy since we start out with at least one obvious common interest.

Going for a four billion evaluation.

So Spotify has launched in Australia and New Zealand...

how does Rdio compare?

Is there a way for me to use this that doesn't involve me broadcasting what I'm listening to on Facebook?

Yeah, you can turn that off.

Rdio seems to basically Spotify but running in the browser instead of its own app (there's also a mobile app apparently that you get with your 9.99/month sub)

In the UK at least Rdio pretty much sucks. You're rpesented with a big homepage of music, 2/3 of which is greyed out because not available here. I can understand not having the rights, but if you can figure out that you don't have the rights, why can't you figure out not to display the music?

[Originally posted this in wrong thread...]

In Australia: Well fuck, was all prepped to hate Spotify, and have no FB acct, but made a fake one and am already hooked, looking a better PC speakers

Rdio seems to basically Spotify but running in the browser instead of its own app

yep I think that is the main difference. I know some people who use it over Spotify for that reason (i.e. can't install the Spotify software on a work computer but can open a browser and listen to Rdio no problem)

Is there a way for me to use this that doesn't involve me broadcasting what I'm listening to on Facebook?

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, May 21, 2012 8:49 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark

if you're using the same version as me, go to the File menu and click 'Private Session' -- of course you have to do this every single time you turn on Spotify/your computer, or else it just defaults to public mode. i hate it too, and always forget to make it private until someone leaves an obnoxious comment about what i'm listening to on FB.

Huh, in mine I can just go to preferences and uncheck "Show what I listen to on Facebook" and it stays like that forever.

if you feel Spotify isn't returning value, renegotiate your contract

seems like a lot of labels have done this, some of the ones I lamented disappearing upthread are back (rvng, sacred bones)

still no drag city though

can't you just remove the Spotify app from your Facebook account?

i wish tzadik would come back. i'd pay probably double the amount for the tzadik catalog

Huh, in mine I can just go to preferences and uncheck "Show what I listen to on Facebook" and it stays like that forever.

― hot slag (lukas), Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:36 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

oh dag, hadn't even thoguht of that -- my spotify preferences menu only has something that says "Share my activity on Spotify Social," no mention of Facebook though

what about doing this?

In Facebook, open the menu on the top right corner of the screen.

Choose Account Settings

Choose Apps from the menu on the left side of the screen

Remove Spotify.

oh sweet, thanks dude

can't share tracks with your friends that way tho

i'm a spotify user but i just looked at rdio and it actually looks like something that might be worth looking into a bit more

the fact that i can use it from a browser is p nice

i really try to avoid desktop software

and good music

hahaha

can't share tracks with your friends that way tho

― jump them into a gang - into the absurd (forksclovetofu), Thursday, May 24, 2012 3:15 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

well, i don't share tracks w/ people on facebook, or do anything at all w/ my facebook account really -- a lot of my annoyance was that 'x is listening to x on spotify' had become the sum total of my facebook activity

apparently my wife was listening to the vines a lot last week. i assured her that there would never be an artist she'd listen to on spotify that i'd be too embarrassed to have show up on my fb, but this one def challenged that assertion.

lol

My Facebook friends probably think I listen to a ton of The Doors and Adam Ant due to my wife's time on Spotify

http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/2012/120524rdio

Rdio Proposes an Insulting 'Artist Compensation Plan'...
Thursday, May 24, 2012
by paul

The problem is that artists are feeling slighted by streaming services, especially as major labels, fans, and investors reap the enormous benefits. Which plants the seeds for bigger content problems ahead.

Is this the solution? According to details reported by Billboard this morning, Rdio is proposing an 'artist compensation plan' that is essentially a modified referral program. So, if an artist refers a new subscriber, that artist receives $10 directly from Rdio, while other royalty payment structures remain the same. "Payments that would not be sent through record labels' accounting systems could be large enough to spur artists to take part in the program," the report states. "'The goal is to effectively match the economics of what an album sales would be,' says the source within Rdio."

Which basically means Rdio is saying the following to artists:

(1) Bring us a subscriber with a lifetime value that probably exceeds $120, and we'll pay you $10.

(2) We'll do you a favor: we won't pay this bounty through your record label.

(3) All other payments - ie, paltry royalties on your music - will remain the same.

(4) We get to say, 'we're more artist friendly than Spotify!'

Rdio did not respond to an inquiry for this article.

(1) Bring us a subscriber with a lifetime value that probably exceeds $120, and we'll pay you $10.

How does one dollar in twelve compare to what an artist gets from a label for selling a $12 album?

Oh wait that'll be Rdio subscriber rather than artist subscriber. So if your album listener is already a subscriber some other artist already got your $10.

http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/index.php/archives/2012/05/31/spotify-transparency/

In Singapore, I interviewed Ken Parks, majordomo of Spotify’s U.S. operation. I told him I would ask tough questions. That I had to, everybody already thinks I’m on the Spotify payroll, I just couldn’t let him do a commercial. He said this was all cool.

And then didn’t answer a single question I had, certainly not any that probed into the inner workings of the service. Not that I was interrogating him. But why exactly did you have to sign in with Facebook? Ken said everybody liked that, he got no complaints. He did admit that search was flawed. But I still can’t understand why it works so well in iTunes and so poorly in Spotify.

...

But at the end of my "interview", Peter Jenner, original manager of Pink Floyd, thinker extraordinaire, stood and asked why there was no Spotify transparency, why artists could not see what they were getting paid.

Ken gave the usual response. That Spotify paid record companies and these entities accounted to artists, and if something got lost in translation, it was not Spotify’s fault.

Spotify has been releasing some really shitty updates to it's iOS app. I get so fucking tired of companies using the general population as goddamned beta testers.

yeah, the latest one that came out in the past couple days caused me lots of headaches. I'm going through the process of reinstalling from scratch and re-loading all of my offline files, which seems to be helping.