i got the other thread locked, i hope no one objects to this? i think it's just confusing having 2 threads being revived and it's more of a rolling discussion thread at this point so it makes sense. if you do i'm sure we can get it reopened.
last post on the previous thread was hyggeligt helpfully linking us to SpaceInvading
thanks for that, it's actually a great link and saves quite a bit of trawling around various different blogs although it still has links to those blogs for more description, which is cool.
― jed_, Thursday, 15 January 2009 01:17 (eight years ago) Permalink
Sou Fujimoto Architects' Wooden House. love it or hate it, you've never seen anything like it.
― jed_, Thursday, 15 January 2009 01:23 (eight years ago) Permalink
― jed_, Thursday, 15 January 2009 01:26 (eight years ago) Permalink
I think anybody who ever had blocks as a kid has seen something like it.
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 15 January 2009 01:26 (eight years ago) Permalink
ha, i was just about to add a similar caveat.
― jed_, Thursday, 15 January 2009 01:28 (eight years ago) Permalink
BLOOMFRAME®The BLOOMFRAME® breaks out of the 2-dimensional facade to add to the usable space in this innovative design by Hofman Dujardin Architects.
prototype that is expected to go into actual production early this year:
Bloomframe® is an innovative window frame that can be transformed into a balcony allowing an increase in usable space with minimal intervention.
Bloomframe® offers the user a flexible living environment. By opening the window frame, it is possible to walk out through the facade and to enjoy a comfortable balcony. The dynamic balcony enables adding outdoor space to compact apartments in urban high-rise areas.
The Bloomframe® balcony can be operated automatically with a simple push of the button. The system includes provisions to guarantee collapse safety during opening and closing.
The drive consists of an rpm-controlled electric motor that operates the balcony at two points via an auto-braking reduction (drop safety). The movement is transferred by tie rods from these linear guides.
The fully open position is limited mechanically, which guarantees optimum safety of the converted balcony. The application of a combined powered/mechanical movement makes the system user-friendly and easy to open and close for everyone.
― jed_, Thursday, 15 January 2009 01:34 (eight years ago) Permalink
I don't think I really understand the Bloomframe? It creates a not very attractive half-window when closed and doesn't seem to offer any advantages over a regular building other than potentially animating the building facade more - and you have to keep your patio furniture inside when you're not using it. I think I'd like it more with a glass bottom panel since it'll be up 80% of the time.
― Tina Fey's narrative bonsai (I DIED), Thursday, 15 January 2009 01:49 (eight years ago) Permalink
SpaceInvading is one of my favorite things about 2009
I'm glad so many designers are doing these weird 3D circulation intensive tiny houses/follies, but I'd sure like to see some upholstery in them or at least first aid kits for the inevitable bloody heads.
― Tina Fey's narrative bonsai (I DIED), Thursday, 15 January 2009 01:52 (eight years ago) Permalink
bloomframe would be cooler if the patio furniture folded out with it, like a pop-up book.
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 15 January 2009 01:53 (eight years ago) Permalink
I'd like that! Or if the patio furniture was permanently secured to it so it stuck out from the inside wall of your house when closed.
― Tina Fey's narrative bonsai (I DIED), Thursday, 15 January 2009 01:56 (eight years ago) Permalink
and if it wasn't the color of an HVAC component.
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 15 January 2009 01:56 (eight years ago) Permalink
haha yeah it looks like a big access panel.
― Tina Fey's narrative bonsai (I DIED), Thursday, 15 January 2009 01:57 (eight years ago) Permalink
well, i love it. obviously it doesn't have to be khaki/grey, it can be any colour, i would imagine. the bottom half could possibly be glass but people have vertigo. white steel is fine by me. also you just sit on a chair that you have in your lounge, or whatever. i wouldn't imagine you would have specific furniture for it unless it was some cheap folding deck chair you could keep in a cupboard?
― jed_, Thursday, 15 January 2009 02:21 (eight years ago) Permalink
I'm getting one
― cozwn, Thursday, 15 January 2009 02:24 (eight years ago) Permalink
me too, on m4ryhi11 road end.
― jed_, Thursday, 15 January 2009 02:26 (eight years ago) Permalink
Yay new thread!
Doctor Casino, though you are a medical man with a gambling problem so far as I can tell from login name, I do like your flickr. It has been very good recently.
Jencks's Language of Post-Modern Architecture
Which edition is the better one to start with? Is this book the same one under a different name?
I like the Bloomframe! I think it could be a real boon to new apartments. I loathe buildings like the blocky ones upthread. They are just grotesque monoliths hammering the pedestrian down with sheer BLOCK COLOURS. Just awful.
― hyggeligt, Thursday, 15 January 2009 10:30 (eight years ago) Permalink
looking at going on a solo field trip in march. probably europe. have been thinking of istanbul but that's just because I'd like to go there. where would you go? for like six days or so. money is an object but where would you go?
― conrad, Thursday, 15 January 2009 13:38 (eight years ago) Permalink
Where to begin! I've only really done Western Europe (no further east than Vienna) and with huge swaths of untouched territory in there. My gut says you kind of can't screw it up in terms of travel, life experience, food, all that kind of stuff - are you trying to see the maximum amount of architecture possible or just have a great trip where you also see some fab buildings?
hyggeligt - thanks! It'll be dormant again for a while, I am now entering my last studio at school and am busy, plus obviously not traveling.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:05 (eight years ago) Permalink
re: That 2002 Jencks - it certainly SOUNDS like a revised edition of the original - Now rewritten and with two new chapters, the seventh edition brings the history up to date with the latest twists in the narrative, and the turn to a new complexity in architecture. Rewritten with new chapters didn't really serve the previous editions all that well - just started to feel aimless and tacked-on-to. But enough time had passed that I could imagine the 2002 volume being interesting, and I appreciate anything that calls out and explores the fundamentally postmodern qualities of 90s computer projects (Greg Lynn et al). Dunno... haven't read the new bits so I dunno if it's worth it or not.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:08 (eight years ago) Permalink
Is okay, jealousy at fancy locations was eating in to my soul anyway. Could do with the spiritual break! (xpost)
Thanks for that Dr Cas, will chance it and see when I'm flush.
― hyggeligt, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:10 (eight years ago) Permalink
I should have said - have been to budapest, vienna, brno, prague, zurich, basel, madrid, barcelona, rome, florence, naples, berlin, munich, paris, krakow, amsterdam, rotterdam, brussels and others and places in between like leon in spain and vals in switzerland etc. and some UK stuff (I'm in scotland)
so, having never been up to copenhagen/oslo/stockholm/gothenberg/helsinki/tallinn/riga...I'm interested but don't have a ready idea of what's the best destination. not limited to europe other than in terms of the money issue
was looking at v cheap flights to oslo but hostels there seem on the expensive side. cheap flights and accommodation for gdansk but...I don't know if there's that much to see and can't seem to find good info
great trip w/ fab buildings would be fine but as much architecture as poss would be more justifiable in a way
― conrad, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:33 (eight years ago) Permalink
that's a lot of places. are you in glasgow?
i hear Lisbon is lovely (and cheap on easyjet)
― jed_, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:36 (eight years ago) Permalink
what about croatia? supposed to be gorgeous.
― jed_, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:39 (eight years ago) Permalink
in glasgow yes (I mentioned conrad to you at a party on new years morning but it was early and late so I don't blame you for forgetting!)
had thought about lisbon and about porto too but was looking for something direct hoping to minimise cost and travel time
I should have found a better thread to ask this stuff as I obviously haven't been thinking about enough architects
― conrad, Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:56 (eight years ago) Permalink
I love the Bloomframe and I would sit in a Panton chair in it.
― Sickamous Mouthall (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 15 January 2009 14:59 (eight years ago) Permalink
ah yes, i remember conrad.
― jed_, Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:02 (eight years ago) Permalink
venice yeah, go there. march is a good time to go, i think. i want to go back because i was only there for a day and a half but i loved it.
marseille i remember being quite rough but it's good to go and see the unité.
― jed_, Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:06 (eight years ago) Permalink
I would say Copenhagen is well worth the visit!
― hyggeligt, Thursday, 15 January 2009 15:07 (eight years ago) Permalink
Copenhagen is rich with stuff - see the Flickr stream and sets of user seier_seier_seier. Really interested in going myself. Here's an email seier wrote me when I was considering a trip:
difficult question, copenhagen in two days...
copenhagen is pretty expensive (as is the rest of scandinavia) especially when coming from the u.s., so I'll recommend you a youth hostel which opened recently in a central office tower (not a tower by american standards, but by danish...you'll see).
the same site mentions an even more central hostel opening in april. might be worth checking out:
helsinki and stockholm has some OK hostels too, I would look for the hostel in the olympic stadium in helsinki and the hostel on an old boat in stockholm, if I were you.
stockholm, btw, is my favourite city in scandinavia - it is beautiful, has great nature, landscape, architecture, and wom...its a nice place.
now, what to see....if the weather is good, I would go for places rather than buildings, in bad weather (of which we have plenty) vice versa...
places to see would be:
strandvejen north of copenhagen, the coastal road leading through the well off suburbs to the north, great on a summers day, will take you past lots of fine sites, including good buildings like arne jacobsen in klampenborg:
and utzon's related housing projects in fredensborg and elsinore:
there is a fine renaissance castle in elsinore which inspired shakespeare a few years ago...can't miss it.
the louisiana museum of modern art in humlebæk is a hugely influential building from the fifties, taking the formal out of the museum and putting in nature instead. lots of contemporary architects has named this building as an inspiration, including nouvel, foster and herzog + de meuron.
oh, hang on, from elsinore the thing to do would be to take the ferry to sweden (30 minutes) and drive to klippan to see the lewerentz church
now, that's a whole day in a rented car, so maybe you'll prefer to stay in the city...
there's christiania free town, www.flickr.com/photos/seier/1244185274/in/set-72157603843053592/, a good place to see in the evening, food and bars and a very different street scene.
should the sun shine, the island of amager, formerly known as the ass hole of copenhagen, is seeing some very interesting change these years...on a sunny afternoon, former working class and industrial neighbourhood "islands brygge" is full of young copenhageners sunbathing and swimming in the habour. it is really lively and some of the gir...MVRDV has one of their best buildings nearby:
further east, on the amager coast facing sweden, is another interesting industrial area undergoing radical change. surrounded by large scale infrastructure like a wind mill park, the airport and the bridge to sweden is a new beach, a huge piece of landscaping very popular with the locals already.
and there's the old town, of course, lots of cafés and shops and the odd arne jacobsen building...
if you are just going for the buildings, I would not miss:
- the foyer of the national bank, arne jacobsen 1961-1978. central copenhagen.- bagsværd church, utzon. 20 minutes by train from copenhagen.- klippan church, klippan, sweden. about 2 hours by train, I think.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 15 January 2009 17:30 (eight years ago) Permalink
thanks for that - going to weigh up copenhagen further but it would involve two flights. venice seems like the right choice for a lot of reasons and might be possible w/ some juggling but oslo currently £11 return for four nights is going to be hard to beat even though a cheap hostel has yet to make itself known
― conrad, Thursday, 15 January 2009 17:51 (eight years ago) Permalink
Very true. Try and end up at Ordrupgaard. Recently reopened with new wing. Bakken in the Dyrhaven nearby is trippy and good fun (I also think it might be the world's oldest fairground, I spent far too much time there growing up as it was free in unlike Tivoli).
Merely a legend alas. The crown jewels are there so well worth a look.
Yes. Avoid visiting if there's a rehang because the permanent collection isn't huge for the trip involved. Another good gallery is the Glyptotek near Radhuspladset. Carlsberg money built and filled it. Lovely stuff.
Sadly not any more. They've closed down the drug stalls on pusher street and basically developers are moving in. Very sad now. I was there recently and was followed by four police officers. I am obviously sketchy looking.
A harbour tour is also a good idea. That way you get to see the Black Diamon of the royal library from the water and get closer to the new opera house. Rosenborg slot is a baroque palace in the centre of town near Norreport. It was one of Christian IV's vanity projects and well worth seeing.
Check his shots of Venice for more inspiration Conrad. Again, thanks to Doctor Casino I have been following for the past few months. It is a great stream!
― hyggeligt, Thursday, 15 January 2009 20:40 (eight years ago) Permalink
I have some Venice and surroundings here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/doctorcasino/sets/72157601373054872/
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 15 January 2009 21:17 (eight years ago) Permalink
this is my favorite thing in the world at the moment:
by Levitate Architects
― jed_, Friday, 16 January 2009 14:58 (eight years ago) Permalink
haha I thought that first shot was an elevation and was like "whaaaaaaat?"
That design is a really fantastic thing.
― Tina Fey's narrative bonsai (I DIED), Friday, 16 January 2009 15:02 (eight years ago) Permalink
haha, did the same thing!
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 16 January 2009 15:09 (eight years ago) Permalink
that stairbookcase is insanely beautiful: the top image reminds me of this mad dream i used to have as a child about a rabbit-warren library with walls made of earth ane books.
― king lame (c sharp major), Friday, 16 January 2009 15:32 (eight years ago) Permalink
i posted that stairbookcase to the What do your books look like? thread on ILB and stet said:
That looks great, but is functionally crap: you'll kick dirt into the books as you climb, and the ones at eye level are furthest from your eyes.
which kinda boggled me.
― jed_, Friday, 16 January 2009 15:43 (eight years ago) Permalink
well yeah but it's more of a limited space solution than it is a most perfectly accessible behind glass eye level book collection solution.
― Tina Fey's narrative bonsai (I DIED), Friday, 16 January 2009 15:58 (eight years ago) Permalink
dezeen maybe needs to work on the color balance for those video interviews they're doing - ross lovegrove looks like a DEMON! I was going to post the pic here but it's actually too frightening so I'll link instead.
― Tina Fey's narrative bonsai (I DIED), Friday, 16 January 2009 16:43 (eight years ago) Permalink
ross lovegrove IS a demon. did you watch the Aranda\Lasch one? fancy themselves a bit, don't they?
― jed_, Friday, 16 January 2009 16:48 (eight years ago) Permalink
I just watched it - my gosh I hate it when designers think they're doing something scientific when they're just aping the aesthetics of science.
― Tina Fey's narrative bonsai (I DIED), Friday, 16 January 2009 17:01 (eight years ago) Permalink
well exactly. so they do some actually quite beautiful faceted tiles etc. that's good enough! the introduction where one of them keeps reiterating how serious they are actually made me feel quite depressed.
― jed_, Friday, 16 January 2009 17:07 (eight years ago) Permalink
I would be so supportive of them if they said "We like triangles and crystals because they are pretty! We make very expensive things that kind of look like them."
― Tina Fey's narrative bonsai (I DIED), Friday, 16 January 2009 17:11 (eight years ago) Permalink
Yeah, the thing is in twenty or thirty years it'll be quite clear that some designers were aggressively interrogating the possibilities of new materials and computer-aided-manufacturing, and others were picking up on the look...but while the former MAY end up more valorized, it's the pretty-looking stuff (from either camp) that will rack up big prices at vintage stores.
Thinking specifically of midcentury furniture here - some of it was made by material geeks trying to figure out how to do things that were never possible before, and some of it was made by people who thought outer space was super neat, but all of it's kind of great.
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 16 January 2009 17:16 (eight years ago) Permalink
i couldn't actually work out whether they were trying to take the piss by going on about how serious they were? or do they just have zero sense of humour?
― jed_, Friday, 16 January 2009 17:17 (eight years ago) Permalink
also, i still don't get the Bloomframe exactly - why not just...have a balcony?
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 16 January 2009 17:17 (eight years ago) Permalink
I think they were taking the piss, but trying to be funny by talking about how serious you are only works if you're funny.
― Tina Fey's narrative bonsai (I DIED), Friday, 16 January 2009 17:20 (eight years ago) Permalink
i just see it as another way to have a balcony. it's neat and clever and seductive!
― jed_, Friday, 16 January 2009 17:20 (eight years ago) Permalink
Well yeah, transforming stuff is kind of guaranteed to be cool in my book.... but would you ever actually have it in the closed-up position?
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 16 January 2009 17:27 (eight years ago) Permalink
Congrats! Format looks great and very useful, and it's nice to see an informed architectural guide that's style agnostic.
― controversial but fabulous (I DIED), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 15:02 (one year ago) Permalink
Thank you! Trying to be, anyway. Our own preferences definitely shaped things, in that ineffable way where you look at something and just go "this is minor and uninteresting and someone who took time out of their vacation to see it would be pissed." But in general if other people care about it, it seemed reasonable to keep it in. Most of the existing English-language books on recent architecture in China are of the coffee-table book variety, with a handful of projects selected by building type (or a handful of architects with 2-3 projects each), and most came out kinda around the Olympics and are inevitably a bit stuck in that time. So our first goal was just to make something that would work as a travel guide while massively ramping up the inclusions, and hopefully simulate what we imagine as the heady, informative atmosphere of walking around with us on one of our school trips.
The fun/challenging thing was finding ways to squeeze in some comment about every last building. The map pages have lots of one-line descriptions of things that didn't become illustrated entries, so that was a great discipline for me as a writer, trying to convey what the idea of something was (and, vaguely, whose alleys it might be up) in a very very limited number of words. We were also editing each other, which was sometimes galling, but usually a "ahhh, fuck, they're right, that is dumb/confusing/pretentious."
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 15:12 (one year ago) Permalink
sweet i may just order a copy, going to china in march
― flopson, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 16:08 (one year ago) Permalink
That's awesome! (And thanks, if you do!) Where will you be going?
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 16:24 (one year ago) Permalink
Also just realized that here in this very thread, you can find my first reactions to Amateur Architecture (in Feb 2009), re: one of the buildings you now see in the preview pages of the guide! Crazy. Learning about architecture never stops being a "wait, there was a point in my life where i didn't know about (now foundational concept/person/fact X)" experience for me. Probably this is the way it is for people in whatever field, as you get deeper and deeper in.
Also: in Jan. 2012, the first intimations of dreams of a China book project, though sadly the titles discussed there did not make it - darn!
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 16:49 (one year ago) Permalink
i work for an airline so i get free standby and prob won't know until the last second. we fly to shanghai beijing and hong kong direct.
― flopson, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 17:11 (one year ago) Permalink
Dig! Well, you will not be surprised to learn we do cover all three of those, and all three are just bursting with architecture. :)
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 18:40 (one year ago) Permalink
Good News for Modern ManArchitecture (LACMA acquires Lautner house).
― nickn, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 21:09 (one year ago) Permalink
― shandemonium padawan (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 21:59 (one year ago) Permalink
good bit in LA Plays Itself where he talks about that one, iirc says it's a house that hollywood loves to hate (houses villains) but that they totally misunderstand the spirit of the building
― flopson, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 22:34 (one year ago) Permalink
Zaha Hadid (1950-2016)
― never ending bath infusion (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 31 March 2016 15:19 (eleven months ago) Permalink
(i do wonder why they do this sometimes)
― koogs, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 16:06 (ten months ago) Permalink
simpsons fans, clearly
― sisterhood of the baggering vance (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 16:11 (ten months ago) Permalink
I don't think anyone's going to observe much out of those windows...
― controversial but fabulous (I DIED), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 20:20 (ten months ago) Permalink