U.S. Postal Service: salvageable or doomed?

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again I don't think sales tax is a non-issue, but the fact that some dude can buy a thousand dollar guitar from *anyone in the country* or increasingly from the amazon-borg which can demand steeper discounts than you get and better shipping prices too, is a bigger problem xp

iatee, Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

this btw is def a whole different thread topic and i dont want to derail, but retail survival is a fairly weak argument against low postal rates is all im saying

Rachel Profiling (jjjusten), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

somehow I missed M White's French presidential debate thread.

I had a Sarko vs Royal thread back last time. This time I just posted 'eugh' on this thread:

J'ecoute le debate entre Sego & Sarko

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha I wanted to watch that is it up somewhere

iatee, Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

maybe the USPS could make residential delivery services (except for expedited packages etc.) an option during three or four days per week? how would that really hurt anybody?

fka snush (remy bean), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

good afternoon! What's the scorecard so far?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

I won the debate and then everyone agreed I won

iatee, Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

maybe the USPS could make residential delivery services (except for expedited packages etc.) an option during three or four days per week? how would that really hurt anybody?

it hurts it when it comes to competition w/ fedex/ups for package delivery

iatee, Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

chances of multiplying that shipping cost by 5? so not going to happen

Apparently online retail is a viable commercial model, regardless of what we think about what it does locally and I think the consumer's will likely trump the local retailer's interest. Taxes are not presently fair to both sides, though. USPS is still going to be useful to both sides.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hands, please? Who regularly plans their online orders around shipping or only uses faster shipping, i.e. non-USPS?

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

maybe the USPS could make residential delivery services (except for expedited packages etc.) an option during three or four days per week? how would that really hurt anybody?

― fka snush (remy bean), Thursday, May 3, 2012 5:26 PM (4 minutes ago)

well your house might get burned down during the great netflix riots of 2012

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's kind of funny that the stuff that made online retail interesting a decade or more ago, books, music, movies are all going to be largely digital downloads or streaming digital whereas the amazons of the world are now shipping out hair conditioner and mustard and clothes and whatnot.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think this very germane to this thread. Letters will soon be (if not already so) entirely quaint and soon so will bills and notices. What will we still have to ship and by whom?

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

I am no more going to learn to download than my mom has learned to use a DVD player.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'll send you a carrier pigeon with a USB strapped to its leg

fka snush (remy bean), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

you don't have to download, you just go to the netflix site and press 'play'

iatee, Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

i dunno if anyone has priced it out yet, but i suspect the overwhelming trash to signal ratio in digital delivery might be a larger eco disaster than our current catalogpocalypse.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

I just read all the Patrick Melrose novels on my gf's Kindle and I'm awfully torn over whether to get one or not. It's a really good interface and you can buy and obtain a book in seconds but I'd rather kill the planet, tearing down trees and using up gas (and paying USPS salaries) and waiting to receive and read an actual book, tbh, but how long is that going to be a realistic option?

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

What are you talking about Philip? My dick is huge and I have a Nigerian fortune and I know a skin care technique that has local dermatologists absolutely livid.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't even think the catalogpocalypse element of the postal service and the 10 billion pounds of waste is that important in the big picture, but the fact that we're already at a point where half of every mailtruck is trash does sorta highlight the need for serious reform

iatee, Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

or bigger mail trucks

fka snush (remy bean), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Maybe the USPS could just get into the waste collection business

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

They could swing by with a truck full of junk mail and you'd have to pay them not to deliver it.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

it already is in the waste collection business, it's just a middleman

iatee, Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Admit it, it's super efficient plus I kind of like the idea of putting the mob in charge of a major national government institution, or at least a different mob from the lot we've got now.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

Mr. Que, Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm not sure, but i think the environmental costs of kindles still worse than paper/fuel, at least for now. there's the electronics, etc...

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

I see that the gif is called waste but in what context? Is there some variant of cuneiform with curves?

xpost

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WASTE

Mr. Que, Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

Lot 49 is largely a meditation on the failure of communication, both in the present, and between generations. As in V, it is impossible to know what really happened in history, or even to distinguish fact from forgery in historical texts. The central mystery in Lot 49 is the symbol of the muted horn, which appears linked to an underground mail system (known as W.A.S.T.E.), and is also associated with a mysterious historical group known as The Trystero. The muted horn (the stoppage of communication) appears on the postage stamp of the W.A.S.T.E. system, but also on old postage stamps—perhaps forged. Oedipa also discovers that the unmuted horn appeared on the stamps of the old Thurn and Taxis courier service, the official mail service of the Holy Roman Empire, until its demise. Lot 49 plays around with the indistinguishable mix of fact and fiction.

Mr. Que, Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

well if nothing else the demise of the usps has reminded me how awesome lot 49 is and i think i will read that again tonight

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

“Given our financial situation, continued e-diversion, and increased competition from alternative delivery services, this is one example of how the Postal Service is pursuing innovations and new products to increase the value of mail and retain our business customers,” the agency said in a statement.

la goonies (k3vin k.), Thursday, 20 September 2012 22:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

they ought to deliver every piece of that shit those who sponsored the bills making it unsustainable.

wmlynch, Thursday, 20 September 2012 22:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

:)

goole, Thursday, 7 February 2013 16:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha

manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Thursday, 7 February 2013 18:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...
1 month passes...

hahaha what a moron

My Chemical Romance did 9/11 (jjjusten), Thursday, 28 March 2013 16:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

sullying the wozniak name

j., Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

I would support privatization, albeit with some regulation to ensure rural areas get decent and affordable postal service even though its not profitable, and ending the USPS monopoly on mailbox use (or at least allowing/encouraging a second mailbox of the type once common for newspaper delivery if necessary to avoid confusion). The growth and success of the private shipping business (which was nonexistent when the USPS was established) has rendered the once-essential government-provided postal service largely redundant. UPS does a far better job IME than USPS for reliability and decent shipment tracking.

Lee626, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

privatization, albeit with some regulation to ensure rural areas get decent and affordable postal service even though its not profitable

This is basically what the USPS in its present form is supposed to be.

Aimless, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

'decent and affordable' can mean a lot of things

iatee, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

basically i meant it not costing more for postage to or from rural areas than urban ones, at least for envelopes, by urban customers essentially subsidizing rural customers so every pays the same price. This could be made law for private mail delivery too.

Lee626, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

well then yeah that's basically the way things are now

iatee, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:54 (1 year ago) Permalink


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