Thirded.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:25 (twelve years ago) link
Technically, thirded and fourthed. I seconded the list en masse.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:26 (twelve years ago) link
Bonjour TristesseErin Brockovich3 Women
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:28 (twelve years ago) link
An Unmarried Woman and (combination '70s sap/Neil Young fan--pretty iffy otherwise) Diary of a Mad Housewife.
― clemenza, Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:32 (twelve years ago) link
Resident Evil
― how's life, Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:42 (twelve years ago) link
TerminatorAlienAliensHalloweenMs. 45
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:51 (twelve years ago) link
Ms. 45
Yes + Serial Mom.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:56 (twelve years ago) link
And Jackie Brown.
But, yeah, among recent movies in which female protagonists don't kill people or narrowly avoid being killed by people, I definitely enjoy The Company, Ghost World and The Bridges of Madison County.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:01 (twelve years ago) link
the private lives of pippa lee isnt my fav or anything @ all, it's ok, but i do remember thinking @ the time i saw it that it was a dream, meaty role for an adult woman
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:23 (twelve years ago) link
also, ones i like
looking for mr. goodbarthe runawayscarrie
>S.O.B.
i watched this like last week. don't mean to nitpick but julie andrews def has less screentime than prob like 4 other characters
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:34 (twelve years ago) link
Ladies and Gentleman, the Fabulous Stains (on the female protagonists not killing or avoiding being killed tip)
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:38 (twelve years ago) link
Heavenly Creatures
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:39 (twelve years ago) link
Although I guess that's New Zealand so nevermind
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:40 (twelve years ago) link
the alien is clearly coded as male, even if we don't find out its technical gender
i was skimming and i assumed tuomas was talking about a very different movie to the one he was talking about
― thomp, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:43 (twelve years ago) link
Ghost World
Oh gawd yeah. How could I forget that one?
More: Beyond the Valley of the Dolls, Vixen, Viva, Marci X, Desperate Teenage Lovedolls, Daughters of the Dust, The Swap, [/i]Sin in the Suburbs[/i], Moonlighting Wives, The Rats Are Coming! The Werewolves Are Here!, Seeds of Sin, Fleshpot on 42nd Street, Bad Girls Go to Hell, etc.
I left out films in which strong female protagonists are played by men (Pink Flamingos, Female Trouble, Dinah East, maybe She-Man) and vice versa (I'm Not There, a stretch anyway and I'm blanking on others...does She-Man fit in here?).
Also, "protagonist" doesn't make much sense in the avant-garde but women directors sure do: Peggy Ahwesh, Stephanie Barber, Abigail Child, Leslie Thornton, Beth B, Su Friedrich, etc.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:51 (twelve years ago) link
switchblade sisterscaged heat
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:59 (twelve years ago) link
S.O.B.
Yawn. I knew that would happen. Ok true. But her brazooms set everything in motion. And Bunny Lake is Missing was shot in England and co-stars Olivier. But Carol Lynley is American. And so is Preminger (but is he?). And so on.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:02 (twelve years ago) link
Alan Rudolph's Mortal Thoughts (Demi Moore's career justified)
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:10 (twelve years ago) link
I liked all of these to varying degrees, IIRC:
The BirdsRosemary's BabyA Woman Under the InfluenceCarrieAnother WomanSilence of the LambsThe Man in the Moon (1991)Reality BitesTo Die ForCluelessSafeWelcome to the DollhouseI Shot Andy WarholBoundContactRomy and Michele's High School ReunionJackie BrownHigh ArtThe Last Days of DiscoSlums of Beverly HillsBoys Don't CryDickErin BrockovichNurse BettyGhost WorldThe Good GirlFar from HeavenMonsterThe CompanyKill Bill v. 1 and 2Mean GirlsMillion Dollar BabyJunoRachel Getting MarriedWendy and LucyFrozen RiverPrecious: Based on the Novel "Push" by SapphireWinter's BoneWhip ItBlack SwanPlease GiveBridesmaidsMargaretMartha Marcy May Marlene
― sockless in moccasins (jaymc), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:15 (twelve years ago) link
Yes on Looking for Mr. Goodbar. I thought about Jackie Brown, but it seems to be as much or more about Sam Jackson and Robert Forster. But you could probably say the same of Broadcast News.
― clemenza, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:23 (twelve years ago) link
FreewayElection
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:25 (twelve years ago) link
thanks for reminding me about High Art and Please Give, jaymc.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:26 (twelve years ago) link
KJB's list is super OH YEAH timenice work!
Also if they haven't been mentioned yet
Valley of the DollsBeyond the Valley of the Dolls
― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:32 (twelve years ago) link
SatisfactionLittle Darlings Foxes
― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
Where the Boys Are (is that 50 years ago or not?)
― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:34 (twelve years ago) link
Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore
― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:35 (twelve years ago) link
Gas Food Lodging
I should just slow down and make a list like a normal person.
― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:36 (twelve years ago) link
BadlandsOut Of The BlueCarnival Of Souls
― O00O0O00O (Matt #2), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:38 (twelve years ago) link
Have there been any westerns yet?
― O00O0O00O (Matt #2), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:40 (twelve years ago) link
Meek's Cutoff, not having seen Raquel Welch in Hannie Caulder
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:43 (twelve years ago) link
The Quick and the Dead is super entertaining but is still pretty bad. xp
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:44 (twelve years ago) link
Woody Allen's best femalecentric films (ie, w/out him in the cast) might be The Purple Rose of Cairo and Another Woman.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:45 (twelve years ago) link
Glitter
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:47 (twelve years ago) link
oh duh -- Sayles' Passion Fish w/ a pair of great performances by Alfre Woodard and Mary McDonnell, virtually in every scene together.
(guess which one got an Oscar nomination)
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:47 (twelve years ago) link
Sisters
― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
I know it's not the same thing, but I think the lead females in Nashville--Blakely, Tomlin, Baxley, Gwen Wells, etc.--are among the most interesting in any American film ever.
― clemenza, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
Passion Fish is the only Sayles I like...
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:52 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, passion fish is great. i should rewatch that.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago) link
Working GirlsWorking Girl
― caro's johnson (Eazy), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:55 (twelve years ago) link
The Bridges o' Madison County
― caro's johnson (Eazy), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
HeartlandThe Trip to Bountiful
― caro's johnson (Eazy), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:59 (twelve years ago) link
lol you like old lady movies!
― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:02 (twelve years ago) link
killing people movies, but
ginger snapsthe descent
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:05 (twelve years ago) link
liquid sky
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link
I would always walk into the video store, ask "Where the old lady movies? Passage to India? Naw, naw, seen that one already."
― caro's johnson (Eazy), Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link
nine to five
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago) link
all of me
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link
Married to the Mob
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link
crimes of passion
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
The Incredible Shrinking Woman
― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
thanks for making me Google the "Bechdel test"
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
disagree w/r/t hollywood -- hollywood's sexism is evidenced by gender disparity in high-power/high-pay jobs. the actual product is pretty much audience-driven.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, May 4, 2012 3:09 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
which doesn't mean it's immune from dysfunctional attitudes on gender!
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
Nobody's mentioned "3 Women"
I mentioned it yesterday morning
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)
And morbs mentioned that you mentioned it last night!
― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
i'm gonna mention it again just in case: 3 women.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
"which doesn't mean it's immune from dysfunctional attitudes on gender!"it ... sort of is! having no principles w/r/t making money means that the only barrier is the audience's willingness to pay for it.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 4 May 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
i mean, mel gibson got his foreign-language torture movies made because enough people wanted to see it, jesus!
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 4 May 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
― Philip Nunez, Friday, May 4, 2012 3:26 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
but... i don't follow.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
What, is this a poll or a listing?
1. Aliens 2. Alien3. Heathers
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:59 (twelve years ago) link
"but... i don't follow."what i mean is that the sexism in hollywood that puts a glass ceiling on, say, a woman wanting to become a director or producer wouldn't stop a movie with two or more female characters talking about stuff getting made, provided it could make a lot of money.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 4 May 2012 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
You're assuming that hollywood has a crystal ball that shows it what people want - the evidence here is shaky to say the least.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 4 May 2012 22:55 (twelve years ago) link
It's not so much a crystal ball as simply thinking "people like Julia Roberts/Cameron Diaz/Kate Hudson/Anne Hathaway etc., so let's develop stuff for them."
― Leslie Mann: Boner Machine (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 4 May 2012 23:12 (twelve years ago) link
the fact that hollywood doesn't have a crystal ball makes them that much more likely to embrace a non-sexist formula movie if one were shown to be highly profitable. like if elfquest starring naomi klein as capt. nologo made $200million, there'd be nothing but non-sexist, socially progressive elf movies forever.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 4 May 2012 23:19 (twelve years ago) link
dare to dream
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 May 2012 23:20 (twelve years ago) link
so where are all the Bridesmaids knockoffs btw
aren't there like 2 or 3 already in the pipeline?
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 4 May 2012 23:24 (twelve years ago) link
panic room
― omar little, Friday, 4 May 2012 23:27 (twelve years ago) link
is carnival of souls too old to make the cutoff?
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 4 May 2012 23:35 (twelve years ago) link
no ones mentioned the travelling pants movies fyi
― johnny crunch, Friday, 4 May 2012 23:38 (twelve years ago) link
havent seen them but the protagonists are female pants i hear
Bridesmaids was retrograde and shallow too so no worries
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 23:57 (twelve years ago) link
But it had an Irish leading male!
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Saturday, 5 May 2012 00:14 (twelve years ago) link
Not so much, seemingly: http://jezebel.com/5907744/the-truth-about-women-and-hollywood-these-actresses-theyre-fucked-good-luck-to-kate-and-reese
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Saturday, 5 May 2012 00:16 (twelve years ago) link