your favorite american films of the past 50 years with female protagonists

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Thirded.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:25 (twelve years ago) link

Technically, thirded and fourthed. I seconded the list en masse.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:26 (twelve years ago) link

Bonjour Tristesse
Erin Brockovich
3 Women

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:28 (twelve years ago) link

An Unmarried Woman and (combination '70s sap/Neil Young fan--pretty iffy otherwise) Diary of a Mad Housewife.

clemenza, Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:32 (twelve years ago) link

Resident Evil

how's life, Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:42 (twelve years ago) link

Terminator
Alien
Aliens
Halloween
Ms. 45

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:51 (twelve years ago) link

Ms. 45

Yes + Serial Mom.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:56 (twelve years ago) link

And Jackie Brown.

But, yeah, among recent movies in which female protagonists don't kill people or narrowly avoid being killed by people, I definitely enjoy The Company, Ghost World and The Bridges of Madison County.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:01 (twelve years ago) link

the private lives of pippa lee isnt my fav or anything @ all, it's ok, but i do remember thinking @ the time i saw it that it was a dream, meaty role for an adult woman

johnny crunch, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:23 (twelve years ago) link

also, ones i like

looking for mr. goodbar
the runaways
carrie

>S.O.B.

i watched this like last week. don't mean to nitpick but julie andrews def has less screentime than prob like 4 other characters

johnny crunch, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:34 (twelve years ago) link

Ladies and Gentleman, the Fabulous Stains (on the female protagonists not killing or avoiding being killed tip)

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:38 (twelve years ago) link

Heavenly Creatures

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:39 (twelve years ago) link

Although I guess that's New Zealand so nevermind

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:40 (twelve years ago) link

the alien is clearly coded as male, even if we don't find out its technical gender

i was skimming and i assumed tuomas was talking about a very different movie to the one he was talking about

thomp, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:43 (twelve years ago) link

Ghost World

Oh gawd yeah. How could I forget that one?

More: Beyond the Valley of the Dolls, Vixen, Viva, Marci X, Desperate Teenage Lovedolls, Daughters of the Dust, The Swap, [/i]Sin in the Suburbs[/i], Moonlighting Wives, The Rats Are Coming! The Werewolves Are Here!, Seeds of Sin, Fleshpot on 42nd Street, Bad Girls Go to Hell, etc.

I left out films in which strong female protagonists are played by men (Pink Flamingos, Female Trouble, Dinah East, maybe She-Man) and vice versa (I'm Not There, a stretch anyway and I'm blanking on others...does She-Man fit in here?).

Also, "protagonist" doesn't make much sense in the avant-garde but women directors sure do: Peggy Ahwesh, Stephanie Barber, Abigail Child, Leslie Thornton, Beth B, Su Friedrich, etc.

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:51 (twelve years ago) link

switchblade sisters
caged heat

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:59 (twelve years ago) link

S.O.B.

i watched this like last week. don't mean to nitpick but julie andrews def has less screentime than prob like 4 other characters

Yawn. I knew that would happen. Ok true. But her brazooms set everything in motion. And Bunny Lake is Missing was shot in England and co-stars Olivier. But Carol Lynley is American. And so is Preminger (but is he?). And so on.

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:02 (twelve years ago) link

Alan Rudolph's Mortal Thoughts (Demi Moore's career justified)

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:10 (twelve years ago) link

I liked all of these to varying degrees, IIRC:

The Birds
Rosemary's Baby
A Woman Under the Influence
Carrie
Another Woman
Silence of the Lambs
The Man in the Moon (1991)
Reality Bites
To Die For
Clueless
Safe
Welcome to the Dollhouse
I Shot Andy Warhol
Bound
Contact
Romy and Michele's High School Reunion
Jackie Brown
High Art
The Last Days of Disco
Slums of Beverly Hills
Boys Don't Cry
Dick
Erin Brockovich
Nurse Betty
Ghost World
The Good Girl
Far from Heaven
Monster
The Company
Kill Bill v. 1 and 2
Mean Girls
Million Dollar Baby
Juno
Rachel Getting Married
Wendy and Lucy
Frozen River
Precious: Based on the Novel "Push" by Sapphire
Winter's Bone
Whip It
Black Swan
Please Give
Bridesmaids
Margaret
Martha Marcy May Marlene

sockless in moccasins (jaymc), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:15 (twelve years ago) link

Yes on Looking for Mr. Goodbar. I thought about Jackie Brown, but it seems to be as much or more about Sam Jackson and Robert Forster. But you could probably say the same of Broadcast News.

clemenza, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:23 (twelve years ago) link

Freeway
Election

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:25 (twelve years ago) link

thanks for reminding me about High Art and Please Give, jaymc.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:26 (twelve years ago) link

KJB's list is super OH YEAH time
nice work!

Also if they haven't been mentioned yet

Valley of the Dolls
Beyond the Valley of the Dolls

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:32 (twelve years ago) link

Satisfaction
Little Darlings
Foxes

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link

Where the Boys Are (is that 50 years ago or not?)

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:34 (twelve years ago) link

Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:35 (twelve years ago) link

Gas Food Lodging

I should just slow down and make a list like a normal person.

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:36 (twelve years ago) link

Badlands
Out Of The Blue
Carnival Of Souls

O00O0O00O (Matt #2), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:38 (twelve years ago) link

Have there been any westerns yet?

O00O0O00O (Matt #2), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:40 (twelve years ago) link

Meek's Cutoff, not having seen Raquel Welch in Hannie Caulder

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:43 (twelve years ago) link

The Quick and the Dead is super entertaining but is still pretty bad. xp

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:44 (twelve years ago) link

Woody Allen's best femalecentric films (ie, w/out him in the cast) might be The Purple Rose of Cairo and Another Woman.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

Glitter

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

oh duh -- Sayles' Passion Fish w/ a pair of great performances by Alfre Woodard and Mary McDonnell, virtually in every scene together.

(guess which one got an Oscar nomination)

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

Sisters

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:48 (twelve years ago) link

I know it's not the same thing, but I think the lead females in Nashville--Blakely, Tomlin, Baxley, Gwen Wells, etc.--are among the most interesting in any American film ever.

clemenza, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago) link

Passion Fish is the only Sayles I like...

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:52 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, passion fish is great. i should rewatch that.

horseshoe, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago) link

Working Girls
Working Girl

caro's johnson (Eazy), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:55 (twelve years ago) link

The Bridges o' Madison County

caro's johnson (Eazy), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link

Heartland
The Trip to Bountiful

caro's johnson (Eazy), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:59 (twelve years ago) link

lol you like old lady movies!

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:02 (twelve years ago) link

killing people movies, but

ginger snaps
the descent

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:05 (twelve years ago) link

liquid sky

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link

I would always walk into the video store, ask "Where the old lady movies? Passage to India? Naw, naw, seen that one already."

caro's johnson (Eazy), Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

nine to five

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

all of me

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

Married to the Mob

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

crimes of passion

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link

The Incredible Shrinking Woman

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link

thanks for making me Google the "Bechdel test"

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

disagree w/r/t hollywood -- hollywood's sexism is evidenced by gender disparity in high-power/high-pay jobs. the actual product is pretty much audience-driven.

― Philip Nunez, Friday, May 4, 2012 3:09 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

which doesn't mean it's immune from dysfunctional attitudes on gender!

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

Nobody's mentioned "3 Women"

I mentioned it yesterday morning

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

And morbs mentioned that you mentioned it last night!

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

i'm gonna mention it again just in case: 3 women.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

"which doesn't mean it's immune from dysfunctional attitudes on gender!"
it ... sort of is! having no principles w/r/t making money means that the only barrier is the audience's willingness to pay for it.

Philip Nunez, Friday, 4 May 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

i mean, mel gibson got his foreign-language torture movies made because enough people wanted to see it, jesus!

Philip Nunez, Friday, 4 May 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link

"which doesn't mean it's immune from dysfunctional attitudes on gender!"
it ... sort of is! having no principles w/r/t making money means that the only barrier is the audience's willingness to pay for it.

― Philip Nunez, Friday, May 4, 2012 3:26 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

but... i don't follow.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link

What, is this a poll or a listing?

1. Aliens
2. Alien
3. Heathers

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

"but... i don't follow."
what i mean is that the sexism in hollywood that puts a glass ceiling on, say, a woman wanting to become a director or producer wouldn't stop a movie with two or more female characters talking about stuff getting made, provided it could make a lot of money.

Philip Nunez, Friday, 4 May 2012 21:27 (twelve years ago) link

You're assuming that hollywood has a crystal ball that shows it what people want - the evidence here is shaky to say the least.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 4 May 2012 22:55 (twelve years ago) link

It's not so much a crystal ball as simply thinking "people like Julia Roberts/Cameron Diaz/Kate Hudson/Anne Hathaway etc., so let's develop stuff for them."

Leslie Mann: Boner Machine (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 4 May 2012 23:12 (twelve years ago) link

the fact that hollywood doesn't have a crystal ball makes them that much more likely to embrace a non-sexist formula movie if one were shown to be highly profitable. like if elfquest starring naomi klein as capt. nologo made $200million, there'd be nothing but non-sexist, socially progressive elf movies forever.

Philip Nunez, Friday, 4 May 2012 23:19 (twelve years ago) link

dare to dream

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 May 2012 23:20 (twelve years ago) link

so where are all the Bridesmaids knockoffs btw

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 May 2012 23:20 (twelve years ago) link

aren't there like 2 or 3 already in the pipeline?

Philip Nunez, Friday, 4 May 2012 23:24 (twelve years ago) link

panic room

omar little, Friday, 4 May 2012 23:27 (twelve years ago) link

is carnival of souls too old to make the cutoff?

Philip Nunez, Friday, 4 May 2012 23:35 (twelve years ago) link

no ones mentioned the travelling pants movies fyi

johnny crunch, Friday, 4 May 2012 23:38 (twelve years ago) link

havent seen them but the protagonists are female pants i hear

johnny crunch, Friday, 4 May 2012 23:38 (twelve years ago) link

so where are all the Bridesmaids knockoffs btw

Bridesmaids was retrograde and shallow too so no worries

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 23:57 (twelve years ago) link

But it had an Irish leading male!

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Saturday, 5 May 2012 00:14 (twelve years ago) link

It's not so much a crystal ball as simply thinking "people like Julia Roberts/Cameron Diaz/Kate Hudson/Anne Hathaway etc., so let's develop stuff for them."

Not so much, seemingly: http://jezebel.com/5907744/the-truth-about-women-and-hollywood-these-actresses-theyre-fucked-good-luck-to-kate-and-reese

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Saturday, 5 May 2012 00:16 (twelve years ago) link


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