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that is him trying to be funny

nakhchivan, Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

the only issue is whether is he is merely alluding to an idea current among football coaches that black players are thuggish goons and white players are clever & skilful

except that the example he gives only compounds those prejudices, and it isn't introduced in order to criticize them but merely to defend the reputation of his own team (who are mostly thugs, and mostly white)

nakhchivan, Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

He does mention Salif Diao and Ricardo Fuller as examples of Stoke's skillful side later in that paragraph. Doesn't really mitigate the problem, though.

Is he really wondering why nobody talks about a player they borrowed for half a season five years ago?

Just like you, except hot (ShariVari), Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

im sports tuomas

suidavyvan eht nioj (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

there isn't really much reference made to race by english football ppl, even when there is a periodic scandal with some fan or player racially abusing another, the football hierachy/commentariat are pretty much a single voice saying yeah well it's an isolated example, this country is vibrant and multicultural not like russia or spain etc etc

and even though there have been large numbers of black players for two decades, there are hardly any black managers, the executive/managerial culture is largely hidden from view but it's clearly full of insidious racial biases

nakhchivan, Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

They seem to keep mind of it when it's high-profile enough - there's talk now I understand as to whether the new manager can keep John Terry and Rio Ferdinand in the same team after Terry yelled racist abuse at Ferdinand's younger brother last year.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah well his trial will bring out the usual platitudes, but even if he is convicted the discourse will be about one remedial bawheid who will then get to have racist appended to his list of character defects

that is more or less how ~race~ discourse exists in england, racism is the preserve of racists, that is to say those who are or might be convicted of racially aggravated offences, rather than say the employers whose hiring decisions contribute to the ~50% unemployment rate among young black men

nakhchivan, Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

fuck, who is this person?

http://chronicle.com/blogs/brainstorm/author/nriley

goole, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

I am picking on people because they are black (and I am a racist).
I am picking on people even though I don’t have a Ph.D.
I am picking on people who are too young and inexperienced to defend themselves.
I am picking on people even though I haven’t read their entire dissertations.

Let me take the first two criticisms first. My qualifications to post on this blog consist of the fact that I have been a journalist writing about higher education…

Would have been funny if the post ended on the ellipsis.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

This seems a relic of first term Bush for sure.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

srsly *what* is this person?

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://chronicle.com/blogs/brainstorm/black-studies-part-2-a-response-to-critics/46401

aaron bady comments on this one

goole, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

her defence notes that there aren't enough hours in the day to read the things she is demeaning and dismissing

Bad Company's Drummer's Daughter (stevie), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

She actually had the nerve to write this:

"Before the NAACP leadership gets on its high horse about this, maybe they should go ask a mother trying to raise kids in an inner-city neighborhood how she feels about this, whether she minds if the guy trying to sell drugs to her 12-year-old is put away for a long time."

!!!

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Hey, NAACP. Maybe you ought to talk to some real BLACK PEOPLE and see what THEY think."

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

fucking morons and their "brainstorms"

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

so does freddie de boer! its the grad students blogger all stars in those comments! xxxxp

max, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Drug-legalization proponents across the political spectrum often claim that there would be less violence if drugs were not part of a black market. But I can’t help but wonder whether people inclined to try to make money on the black market wouldn’t simply turn to other kinds of merchandise. Gun-running seems profitable, for instance.

brainstorm!

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

if drugs were legalized, all drug dealers would turn into gun runners, and there would be a guy selling baggies of automatic weapons on the corner of every street

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

#raceideas

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh god I just handed her a half-dozen page hits.

From the original Times article she is commenting on:

“A guy can make six figures a year on a decent bag now, but the players want to have family members, people that are close to them and who they can relate to on their bags,” said Carl Jackson, one of the few remaining black caddies who will work Augusta this week.

The black caddies who remain are on the Nationwide Tour, golf’s version of Class AAA, he added.

“Or they don’t get a job at all,” he said. “They’re a dying breed.”

Their demise can be traced to other things as well — the ubiquity of the motorized golf cart and the subsequent slashing of caddie training programs, as well as this: the job is not as attractive to blacks who have more career opportunities than previous generations. For the older black caddies, the situation is not without its bitter irony: when the prize money was modest, they were the standard; when the money became huge, they became disposable.

From her post:

In other words, discrimination is not at the root of every disparity. And the end of discrimination may even cause greater disparities.

brainstorm!

a la bouquet marmoset (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 4 May 2012 14:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

what the FUCK

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Friday, 4 May 2012 14:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

her posts have in common a remarkable ability to synthesize information and then completely ignore it

Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Friday, 4 May 2012 14:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

omg why have you told me about this horrible person, ilx?

horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2012 14:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^^ OTM

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Friday, 4 May 2012 14:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Here's a story one of my pubs did on Carl Jackson last year.

pplains, Friday, 4 May 2012 14:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

If anyone wants to cleanse their palette a little.

pplains, Friday, 4 May 2012 14:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

her posts have in common a remarkable ability to synthesize information and then completely ignore it

― Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Friday, May 4, 2012 9:41 AM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think this is what is most striking about her writing. The counter-argument is actually imbedded in her own text, yet somehow she is completely unable to see how it undermines her own concluseions.

a la bouquet marmoset (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 4 May 2012 15:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/double_standard_TFPqqilUHif01I9BKkQSkN/1

ladies and gentlemen, the ny post:

Nets on Jay-Z track

As long as the Nets are allowing Jay-Z to call their marketing shots — what a shock that he chose black and white as the new team colors to stress, as the Nets explained, their new “urban” home — why not have him apply the full Jay-Z treatment?

Why the Brooklyn Nets when they can be the New York N------s? The cheerleaders could be the Brooklyn B----hes or Hoes. Team logo? A 9 mm with hollow-tip shell casings strewn beneath. Wanna be Jay-Z hip? Then go all the way!

iatee, Friday, 4 May 2012 16:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

jesus

Bad Company's Drummer's Daughter (stevie), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

If they really wanted to be "Jay-Z hip" they would have a brilliantly-colored uniform co-designed by Louis Vuitton and Takashi Murakami

Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

wow

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

you couldn't tell if they were "hollow-tip" from the shell casings. faker!

goole, Friday, 4 May 2012 16:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah

Phil Mushnick everyone

Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Brooklyn B's would be a dope cheerleading squad; beyonce could lead
also, how quickly they forget:

(Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

he's not a business man he's a contributing greatly to our local economy while offending the delicate conservative sensibilities of a shill working for a corrupt media company man

(Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

can we change the title of this thread to "let's congratulate ourselves for not being THAT white person" since that's what this thread has turned into

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

"And in other news, we've found more examples of racism on the Internet. You all want to hear about it?"

pplains, Friday, 4 May 2012 16:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

this is the 4th largest newspaper in the country!

iatee, Friday, 4 May 2012 16:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Pretty sure the Observer is far down on the list.

pplains, Friday, 4 May 2012 16:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

suggesting that he might as well name the cheerleaders "Brooklyn Bitches" because that's HOW HE DO
i think it's a lil bit racist
it's primarily a lil bit stupid

(Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

NY Post is the worst newspaper in the world

Mordy, Friday, 4 May 2012 16:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

I thought that distinction fell to Every British Paper Except the Guardian

raw feel vegan (silby), Friday, 4 May 2012 17:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

can we change the title of this thread to "let's congratulate ourselves for not being THAT white person" since that's what this thread has turned into

― I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Friday, May 4, 2012 12:42 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i like how the thread title implies a naivety to posting the most racist things we can find - is this... racist? *hold up klan hood*

lag∞n, Friday, 4 May 2012 17:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, kinda shitty. On the other hand, if net attention gets someone like that "The Talk" guy fired, I'm all for that.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 4 May 2012 17:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was not actually wondering whether or not that was racist maybe I should have searched for a ny post thread

iatee, Friday, 4 May 2012 17:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

within a day of starting up, this thead had become a place for both genuine "is this racist?" questioning and unambiguous examples of racist bullshit. there's nothing wrong with this, so far as i can see, and certainly no reason to get nasty about it.

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Friday, 4 May 2012 17:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

is this racist^

lag∞n, Friday, 4 May 2012 17:28 (2 years ago) Permalink


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