ILX running running thread

damn thats prob where i got the swine flu then

― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

i never ever stretch, it's just too much hassle for me. i had shin splints for 4 months last year but since going back running in autumn i've barely had a twinge in any muscle. my caveat would be that i really think listening to your body is only possible with a decent bit of experience under your belt, at the start you can't distinguish a fleeting pain you should run through and an injury.

― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

running totally cured my shin splints, so my advice is to just keep running (bad advice)

― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

my advice also is to constantly be paying attention to yr form, this might just be how i entertain myself tho

― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

stopping running then running cured my shin splints.

― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 22:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

More things you can do:

Run slower
Run faster
foam roll
Lose weight
Gain weight

― Jeff, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 22:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

i stretch but i don't know how well/properly done my stretches are :/

but other than the knee issue that i went to the physio for, and then a minor fibroid issue, i've been lucky with injuries. i currently live with a physio so am confident that if any problems arise they can be dealt with.

― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 22:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm going for a run right now. I'm really going to listen to my body and report back to the thread.

― Jeff, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 22:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

ive seen some experts say pre run stretching is dangerous and counterproductive and should be totally abandoned

have read plenty of stuff saying no stretching necessary.

― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 22:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

i love foam rolling

― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 22:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

i don't really stretch. there are some exercises i would like to do that require more flexibility than i have though. so i guess maybe i should. anyway i'm pretty excited about running atm but sore. not going today. i went yesterday and ran uphill a lot again. i'm going to be a powerhouse!

― kneel aurmstrong (harbl), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 22:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

hills are awesome once you get into them

― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 22:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

hills rule

― yo just a couple (Matt P), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 22:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

Ok, I listened to my body. It didn't have much to say today.

Mile 1 - 8:22 - Body says I feel OK.
Mile 2 - 8:09 - Body says hey that was faster, but I could never maintain it because I'm a damn fool and I might as well give up. Fuck you body.
Mile 3 - 8:30 - Motherfucking body, you may have been right. But I'm not having any pain right now, so I will now defy you. Body's suck.
Mile 4 - 8:18 - Body says to stop at Weiner Circle and get a hot dog or ten. I ignore the body and run faster. Ha, take that body.

― Jeff, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

You have a weird relationship with your body.

― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

When I came back to running again this year, I was very conscious about protecting myself from old injuries and I just started plodding around with barely any knee lift or back lift and not much knee bend either and this has left me with some sort of weird power-shuffle running style which neither looks right nor feels right at all. So now I'm trying to unlearn that and teach myself to run all over again, but I've kind of forgotten how to do it and I just feel totally herky-jerky at the moment. Strangely the only thing that does feel right is running up hills so yeah, I'm planing on doing a lot of that in the hope that it'll help.

― btw didn't i braek ur heart (NickB), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

You have a weird relationship with your body.

Oh I know it.

― Jeff, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

It was a pretty good run though. I'm no where close to marathon shape, but hopefully I can build up a small base before real training starts in June. Looking forward to a longish run this weekend to see how it goes.

― Jeff, Thursday, 3 May 2012 00:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

i have run 3 miles 3 times this week! plus 1.5 on the schedule's easy day. that's the most i have run in one week in like 2 years! now i have a salty crust on me.

― kneel aurmstrong (harbl), Saturday, 5 May 2012 21:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

i had shin splints for 4 months last year but since going back running in autumn i've barely had a twinge in any muscle.

did you do anything special to recover in between? or just laid off the running? i'm gonna try some of the exercises listed above, since i laid off running for a year and twinges started to come back after like 3 (very short) runs...

― rayuela, Sunday, 6 May 2012 12:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

just stopped completely. i couldn't run a yard without having pain, when i went back i guess the muscles had built up in their own time.

― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 6 May 2012 17:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

does running make your feet bigger? i had to dump one pair of smart shoes and one pair of converse that pinch uncomfortably but fitted me perfectly well recently.

― jed_, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 20:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

Not that I'm aware of.

― Jeff, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 20:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

maybe you got toe blisters and it made you think your feet were bigger since you felt your shoes on your toes more

― kneel aurmstrong (harbl), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 20:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

do any of you use nike plus? got a new iphone recently and so i can use the app, really great imo, the stats encourage a nerdiness that promotes commitment to more running imo. and it's a good way to slowly introduce time/speed into my running without caring about it too much.

― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

stretch if something feels like it needs stretching imo, not as a routine

― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

i have that on my iphone but never used it. i also have runkeeper. i just don't want to carry it while running and don't want one of those armband things. i'm thinking about getting a garmin so i can tell how fast i'm going. i also need new running shoes though, which is more important. i'm gonna go to the running store tomorrow and get fitted. i have some soreness in the arch of my foot and my shoes are old.

btw i am already thinking when i'm done with this training group of doing a half marathon group but i don't want to run for 2 hours+ and one of the sessions meets at 7 am on saturday! argh!

― kneel aurmstrong (harbl), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

btw i am already thinking when i'm done with this training group of doing a half marathon group but i don't want to run for 2 hours+

then run quicker .....

― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

that's what i'll have to do isn't it

― kneel aurmstrong (harbl), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

srsly i think all i need is to have some kind of schedule and people i am accountable to it's made such a huge difference. i am a big excuse-maker normally. and more exercising is making me better at everything! i even started organizing my disgusting office at work!

― kneel aurmstrong (harbl), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

i know but eugh positivity, next thing you'll be one of those people, you might even find yourself in a marketing career or something idk

― pet tommy & the barkhaters (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 22:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

first run w/the garmin in forever, lol i got slow, it was a big fn hill but still

― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

maybe half trails half road, i think that big dip in pace at the end was trying to navigate some trees that fell over the trail

― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

u took a nap

― kneel aurmstrong (harbl), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol the gps def works the psychological magic, i did the same run a couple days before and stopped to walk like 3 times, this time i was all 'must not f up my stats'

― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

this time i was all 'must not f up my stats'

ha, I do that too

― NSFW Australia (seandalai), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

oof, that hill. No thank you.

I've never used Nike+, used my Garmin for my last 385 runs.

― Jeff, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

Been keeping up with yoga and treadmill over the winter, but had my first outdoor run today. 5 km in 21 minutes, not so shabby! Wild, wild stitch pain at the end, though

― poxen, Thursday, 10 May 2012 00:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

the running store has to get my shoes from another location because they don't carry women's shoes that big. the guy at the store grimaced at my old ones and said "those are done!" i didn't know they were that worn out. i hope everything stops hurting when i get them.

next week's "long" run assignment is 45 minutes, which i haven't done continuously since 2008 or so and i was worried so i today tried slowing my 20 min run down to about 11:00/mile and it was actually fun and not painful this time and i'm pretty sure i could continue at that pace for a while. i did not run all the way up the hill though.

― kneel aurmstrong (harbl), Thursday, 10 May 2012 23:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

Going to the doc on Tuesday for what seems to be PF symptoms. It's not bad at all, but I thought I'd see a doc earlier rather than later. I've been running on it fine though, pain is actually less when I run.

I've been slowing down a lot recently, just trying to get time on my feet and build some base mileage before marathon training. It's hard as hell, I just want to run as fast as I can every time out there.

― Jeff, Friday, 11 May 2012 12:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

ah no the dreaded sore foot

― lag∞n, Friday, 11 May 2012 13:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

I had wicked PF for a couple years then spent some $$ on orthotics and minimalist shoes (replacing them often) which made a huge difference, even as I steadily increased weekly mileage. fwiw.

― tobo73, Friday, 11 May 2012 15:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

I've already been wearing custom orthotics for several years now (replaced every year). I couldn't run without them at this point.

― Jeff, Friday, 11 May 2012 16:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

The PF seems to be really mild at this point. Hoping it will be no big deal.

― Jeff, Friday, 11 May 2012 16:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

What shoes do you run in?

― Jeff, Friday, 11 May 2012 16:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think they're called Brooks Pure Flow. Bright green, you can't miss them.

All this said I just finished my weekly long run. about 8 miles in some serious, but non-PF, foot pain set in. Of course I did the stupid thing and finished a 16-miler through the pain. Probably going to regret that for a few days if not weeks.

― tobo73, Friday, 11 May 2012 18:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

I just ordered some Skechers GoRun. Intrigued by them, eager to try out.

Other shoes I've tried recently but didn't quite work out: New Balance 730's and Adidas Hagio.

― Jeff, Friday, 11 May 2012 19:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

Currently still running in my Newton Gravitas.

― Jeff, Friday, 11 May 2012 19:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

brooks! i went to a running gait place & they set me up with brooks shoes. i'd never heard of them -- the extent of my shoe knowledge went from new balance to nike.

― rayuela, Friday, 11 May 2012 19:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

Shoes I've run in:

Fila Flow Sanctuary III - I started running in these, they were unremarkable but did the job at the time.
Adidas Adistar Ride - The shoe I really started running in. Ran my first marathon in these.
Brooks Defyance - Tried them out and got injured not long afterwards. I don't know if they shoes were a factor, but they were bulky and I didn't like them.
Newton Gravitas - Started running with this right after my first marathon. Got used to them and now I find it hard to run in anything else. I put nearly 700 miles on my first pair and up to 282 on my second.
Saucony Kinvara - Toe box was too narrow for me for running. I still wear them casually though.
Altra Instincts - Felt like running with boxes on my feet, didn't work at all.
Merrell Mix Master - My only trail shoe. I've run in exactly one trail race with it. It was through 8 inches of fresh snow so I don't think it really mattered what I ran in.
Adidas Hagio - Really liked the way these felt, but they seemed like more of a racing flat that would be good for short distances. That's great, but I prefer long distance running and I didn't think these would hold up long.
New Balance 730s - The no sock liner thing is weird and it didn't work well with my orthotics.

― Jeff, Friday, 11 May 2012 20:10 (1 year ago) Permalink