The Death of Cinema pt. 94

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I posted that way the hell upthread but it's behind the "more messages" now.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that's what kicked off this revive

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, I don't get that at all because how the fuck are the hard drives they send out even writeable?

mh, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

Ever since cable and the VCR arrived, the profit in archiving has been obvious. I'm pretty sure this will continue.

― Aimless, Wednesday, May 2, 2012 12:33 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

its probably less obvious in the age of internet piracy?

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

lol, we don't need profit now, we have people running torrent-seeding systems for scene "cred" or for ratio

mh, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

From a CNET article it looks like that Avengers screening booboo was because it had been downloaded, rather than sent as a disk, so it's feasible that someone could delete it from the DCP server by accident I guess.

On a thread related note, this blog entry about the benefits of digital distribution for small-time filmmakers is quite an interesting read. Some good snaps of a typical DCP set up too:

http://wearecapture.com/blog/?p=238

that mustardless plate (Bill A), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

Two years from now (or less) the studios aren't even gonna be sending out film prints.

Eerie.

http://news.doddleme.com/news-room/and-so-it-begins-20th-century-fox-to-end-film-distribution/

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Saturday, 5 May 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link

Getting ready to make up crazy facts about film projection for the grandkids.

a la bouquet marmoset (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 7 May 2012 14:11 (eleven years ago) link

So, everyone saw Hugo in digital projection, right?

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 7 May 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link

caught a glimpse of what looked like a windows 98 desktop for a split second after I saw the raid: redemption yesterday, lol

original bgm, Monday, 7 May 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

in a chain theater

original bgm, Monday, 7 May 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

David Bordwell on James Cameron's presumptive agenda:

http://www.davidbordwell.net/blog/2012/04/22/its-good-to-be-the-king-of-the-world/

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

Off topic, but this quote:

Second, if these guys are so passionately committed to quality, why don’t they make better movies?

a la bouquet marmoset (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

caught a glimpse of what looked like a windows 98 desktop for a split second after I saw the raid: redemption yesterday, lol

― (⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Monday, May 7, 2012 11:22 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

ive seen that a few times. also when i saw A Separation, the first 5 minutes or so played without subtitles because the projectionist forgot to turn them on - like when you're watching a DVD.

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

yeah for some reason i thought that bordwell article had been posted. its good, but i still cant muster any sympathy for the conscience-free big chain exhibitors who have been bilking theatergoers ever since the multiplex era began. i mean at fucking cinemacon this year the big chains were batting around ideas about allowing texting during movies to lure in teenage customers. there is no low they won't stoop to in the name of profits. of course, independent theaters are getting shafted by cameron's 'all stick' approach too...

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

Chris Nolan, defender of celluloid:

http://www.laweekly.com/2012-04-12/film-tv/35-mm-film-digital-Hollywood/

polyphonic, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

third time's the charm

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link

haha, sorry, didn't see it until I showed the hidden posts. mea culpa

polyphonic, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

THE MOVIE VANISHES

http://youtu.be/EL_g0tyaIeE

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 14:34 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.quora.com/Pixar-Animation-Studios/Did-Pixar-accidentally-delete-Toy-Story-2-during-production/answer/Oren-Jacob

They almost lost 2 months worth of work, but then they redid everything anyway so it wouldn't have mattered. Still scary.

i should also point out that it incredible that

rm -rf *
still exists as a problem in most unix systems. fix your archaic operating system mistakes, nerds.

it's

it's not a problem, it's a valid operation - you can't remove the ability to delete stuff, or change how it works.

decent permissions will stop anyone being able to delete anything but their own files (yeah, ok, that can be catastrophic enough).

koogs, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 08:45 (eleven years ago) link

tbf Orson Welles lost two whole reels of footage when he ran out of desk space and set them on top of the trash can and the janitor threw them out

mh, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:47 (eleven years ago) link

I think he actually misplaced them in a pizza box

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link

I think he actually ate them

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rm_(Unix)

A command so dangerous shouldn't be so easy to use. This page has a bunch of different solutions, which most linux distributions don't use.

most of those (3) solutions won't work with the above because of the fact that it explicitly used -f to force removal. and the Protection of the filesystem root doesn't apply because it's not necessarily /

(ubuntu enforces -i by default, i think. but that's dangerous as it just leads to people typing -f by rote, to bypass all the y y y y y y y y that needs doing if you're deleting more than one file)

backups.

koogs, Thursday, 17 May 2012 07:55 (eleven years ago) link

tbf Windows has the same issue, it's just that no one uses the command line

I have, in the past, had the charming habit of holding down shift while deleting in Windows to do a real delete all the time, though.

Backups!

mh, Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:27 (eleven years ago) link

oh, a digital troubleshooting thread! let's kill cinema now.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

decent source control is probably the first step though. more difficult with large binary files (textures) but...

koogs, Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

=D

mh, Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

so there's a new doc opening in a few cities and playing on VOD where Keanu interviews filmmakers about the digital changeover! Plenty for Lucas- and Cameron-haters to chew on.

http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/side-by-side/6454

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 August 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

I'm interested in seeing that, actually. Do you know when it's available on VOD?

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Monday, 13 August 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

week from Wednesday.

http://sidebysidethemovie.com/

It covers a lot of the issues discussed above, esp re archiving toward the end, but often in "It's like this / No it's not" fashion.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 August 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

morbs did you read david bordwell's 'pandora's digital book,' its great

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Monday, 13 August 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link

dude, the last 'serious' book I read was Nixonland and it took me a year.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 August 2012 23:35 (eleven years ago) link

it's a quick read!

http://www.davidbordwell.net/blog/2012/05/17/pandoras-digital-book/

and i guarantee more insight than keanu reeves' documentary.

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 00:39 (eleven years ago) link

some outtakes from that doc here

http://www.tribecafilm.com/videos/?sortBy=-startDate&11963=1030576

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Neil Young: "Once there was a friend of mine/who died a thousand deaths." (Haven't read this yet, haven't decided if I will.)

http://www.salon.com/2012/09/28/is_movie_culture_dead/

clemenza, Friday, 28 September 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link

"there's a lot of handwringing about the death of cinema so here is an article where i handwring about the death of the cinema."

really it's just a blender of TV IS MORE DISSCUSSED and that NYFF doesn't matter anymore and the cultural elites don't dictate the wider discussion

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Friday, 28 September 2012 22:54 (eleven years ago) link

Just noticed that our Landmark franchise here--which resides in perhaps Houston's last movie palace that actually still shows movies--has gone all digital for new releases.

50 Shades of Greil (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

Hungry Hungry Hippos, which debuted in 1978, is a game in which players compete with plastic hippos to swallow marbles off of a board.

shit i've been playing it wrong

thread lock holiday (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

ha

Number None, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

My twitter feed these days has basically become a daily report of digital/DLP critics' screenings gone awry.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

do tell!

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

Every day, digital/DLP critics' screenings go awry.

Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

haha

there is no dana, only (goole), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

great story

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link


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