Occupy Wall Street 3: Now What?

free the cleveland idiots

yeah 30k seems like a reasonable estimate

30k in NYC and only a 100 in DC?

In Washington, more than 100 supporters of Occupy D.C. gathered in Meridian Hill Park before the march to the White House, joined by local members of unions such as the Metropolitan Washington Council of the AFL-CIO and the Amalgamated Transit Union. They unfurled red flags, played guitars, painted cardboard signs and played “Inequality Pong,” a game whose players tried to drop a Ping-Pong ball into a cup labeled “1 percent.”

As the march began and the protesters moved down 14th Street toward the White House, participant Brittany Duck, 24, a student, said she hoped that the day would reinvigorate the local Occupy movement.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/occupy-movement-returns-for-may-day-protests-in-dc-new-york-and-around-us/2012/05/01/gIQASDqQvT_story.html

I just worked. Sorry Hoos

NY wrapup by The Nation, w/ video:

http://www.thenation.com/blog/167666/tens-thousands-march-oakland-new-york-may-day

i missed part of the day at the park, so i'm not sure when annie was there & suspect she saw the crowd at a lull--the march was 5-600

easily two dozen of our key organizers decided to spend mayday in new york, which kinda pissed me off

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/occupy-the-regulatory-system/2012/04/27/gIQAjo21lT_blog.html

More coverage of the Occupy the SEC folks

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/on-hannity-michelle-malkin-tears-into-juan-williams-comparing-occupy-violence-to-tea-party-racism/

same ol' same ol' from Fox tv folks

Tho IMO we should be careful about "normalizing" their outrageous bullshit.

Word.

Today a woman I work with was lamenting a blog post by a feminist blogger using a picture of Nick Nolte as an example of ugliness "too judgmental," yet I know the same woman would shrug at this story. "Eh, what do you expect?"

That shrugging is part of the equation that people like Malkin thrive on.

"cleveland occupy leaders were arrested in connection with the bridge bomb plot"

of course they were

10 to 1 none of occ cleave's charges stick

On the police tactics in NYC on 5/1:

Snatch-and-grab police tactics intimidate crowds, but do not lead to the sort of dramatic mass arrest scenes that capture national headlines; it’s a more insidious form of crowd control. It is worth adding, however, that there was no shortage of police aggression: At one point I saw firsthand as a marcher was grabbed by police in the Lower East Side, his face slammed to the street. When pulled up and taken away, officers covered his face with his T-shirt so onlookers could not see the blood.

Then, after the mass evening march in New York had finished and no more than a thousand people had moved to the Vietnam Veteran’s Memorial park at Manhattan’s southerly tip, the NYPD once again covered the area. Some remaining hundreds of the May Day participants had gathered for a mass general assembly; others milled around, sharing stories about the day or dancing to the ever-present drumbeats. The police encircled the small concrete park in time to disperse the relaxed crowd at 10 p.m., when the park closes. Clad in riot gear, the number of officers kept growing; hundreds and hundreds on foot and in vans surrounded the memorial park and every office building, street and corner. The NYPD is the seventh largest standing army in the world, and on the evening of May 1, New York felt like a city under military siege — it was terrifying.

http://www.salon.com/2012/05/03/the_nypd_may_day_siege/

Tho IMO we should be careful about "normalizing" their outrageous bullshit.

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, May 3, 2012 8:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Agree, but as you most certainly know it is hard to keep fighting back 24-7 so as to call them on this stuff. It's hard to compete with the money of Karl Rove's pals.

The NYPD is the seventh largest standing army in the world

really?

Okay, it's something Mayor Bloomberg said. What a dumb thing to say.

Is it not a true thing?

As an army, they would be somewhere in between Tunisia and Belgium.

yeah he basically made that up it's bullshit, unless he has some tricky definition of "standing army"

Bloomie is no Tricky

It's remarkably hard to get any intelligible google results for sitting or kneeling armies

i imagine he's including, like, school cops and subway workers

the NYPD like to stand so their incredible overweight is of maximum use in blockading intersections

People's Republic of China[37] 2,285,000

United States of America[189][190] 1,458,219

India[76][note f] 1,325,000

North Korea[126][note k] 1,106,000

Russian Federation[146][note o] 1,027,000

Republic of Korea[161][note r] 687,000

Turkey[179][180][181] 666,576

Pakistan[130][131] 617,000

NYPD 36,000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83SLtpBiJjg&feature=youtu.be

3:02 on gave me goosebumps

Joshua Clover and 11 students facing significant jail time.

wow. Not good

If you check the Aggie's website:

According to the Yolo County District Attorney’s office a plea deal will be offered. Should they plead guilty they would receive a sentence of 80 hours of community service.

One of my closest homies wa arrested on mayday in NYC and we've finally tracked him down. He's being held at Rikers until his June 5th court date, bail remanded. Because he was in a fucking march.

Alerting any NY media that give a fuck?

fuckin conspiracy charges, always the heavyweight life-ruining thing in these kinds of raps. cuz you know damn well "obstructing movement in a public place" doesn't carry an 11-year max.

that was an xp to the UCD stuff, a month in jail for being on a march is a bad sign as well.

“The atmosphere teeters manically between carnival and riot — as demonstrators charged yet another police line on May Day afternoon, a small group diligently pushed the sound system along at the rear of the crowd, blasting music for the confrontation. The moment encapsulated the movement’s youthful, outlaw appeal: It gives participants the choice to dance or fight the cops — or both.”

http://www.sfweekly.com/2012-05-09/news/occupy-movement-protests-may-day-anarchy-black-bloc/

great goddamn piece

http://albany.patch.com/articles/university-of-california-files-lawsuit-against-14-alleged-occupy-the-farm-members#pdf-9875944

http://isoaklandburning.com/

I soak land burning?

(NOW SERVING SAN FRANSISCO AS WELL)

The moment encapsulated the movement’s youthful, outlaw appeal: It gives participants the choice to dance or fight the cops — or both

glad to see young people are still having fun, good luck convincing the 99% you have an actual political agenda

this guy

it's a piece written from the ground about an action and the ensuing tactical scuffles. the tactics in the piece are a handful among many others, some deeply engaged in the regulatory weeds & demands-making of reformism and others taking a dual power approach to build community strength for direct pushback & construction of alternatives. in a STUNNING FUCKIN TWIST, you don't get that context in this story about a single day of action.

you'd have to look that up for yourself, as the media isn't exactly trumpeting our work from the rooftops. i can help if you're curious.

i'm just saying i know a lot of people who hate banks and wall st who aren't going to be very impressed w fighting cops or staging street theatre

i liked "dance or fight the cops" as a bit of rhetorical flourish & a semi-poetic description of the inevitable carnival-esque atmosphere of big actions that often wind up in escalations of cop violence. it "sums up the movement" in an impressionistic sense, not in any factual way.

can i just

Disc: 1
1. Something's Got to Give, Matt Pless
2. Come On, Come On, Come On, Jackson Browne
3. Occupation Freedom, George Martinez & The Global Block Collective
4. People Have The Power (Live In Marseille), Patti Smith
5. Love Anthem (Only Love), My Pet Dragon
6. The Panic is On, Loudon Wainwright III
7. Occulture, Cosmonaut
8. Save Us, Papercranes (feat. Rain Phoenix)
9. Smile (Get Up and Sing), Jay Samel
10. This Is What America Looks Like, Tenderflex (DJ Logic & David Maurice) feat. Dynasty Electric, Ayler Young and Jay Rodriguez
11. Big Little Wolfs, Aeroplane Pageant
12. Agent 99, Alex Emanuel
13. Safety In Numbers, Deborah Harry
14. Hey, can I Sleep On Your Futon?, Richard Barone
15. Occupy Wall Street "Here Here Here", Black Dragon
16. White Gold, Ladytron
17. Greed, Gabriel Aldort
18. Against The Machine, Taj Weekes & Adowa
19. The Young Idealists, Lloyd Cole20.A Peaceful Solution, Willie Nelson
Disc: 2
1. The Time They Are a-Changin', Michael Moore
2. The World Is On Fire, Ace Reporter
3. Latter Days, The Middle Eight
4. Turn The Lights On, Chroma
5. Which Side Are You On? Ani DiFranco
6. Well May The World Go, Tao Rodriguez-Seeger
7. Unified Tribes, Thievery Corporation
8. Robber Barons, Thee Oh Sees
9. Saving Up To Go Bankrupt, Mike Rimbaud
10. Hell No (I'm Not Alright), Nanci Griffith
11. We Stand As One, Joseph Arthur
12. Cash Machine, Girls Against Boys
13. Rebellion Politik, Junkyard Empire
14. Nothing Recedes Like Progress, Anti-Flag
15. Rebel, Fear Nuttin Band
16. Under The Bridge, Jill Sobule with John Doe
17. Take A Stand, Stephan Said
18. The Answer, UNKLE
19. World Wide Rebel Songs, Tom Morello: The Nightwatchman
20. If There Ever Was A Time, Third Eye Blind
Disc: 3
1. Move On Fast, Yoko Ono
2. If We Live, Build The Sun
3. Fight The Good Fight, Our Lady Peace
4. I Don't Need Money, Julie B Bonnie
5. The World Is Turning, Toots & The Maytals
6. A New York Minute, Nickodemus feat. The Real Live Show, Sadat X, ILLspokinN and Rabbi Darkside
7. The Cash All Flows To Me , Gentleman Brawlers
8. Industrial Park, The Mammals (feat. Pete Seeger)
9. Big Fish, Yo La Tengo & the Lost City Rumblers
10. Occu-Pie, Harry Hayward
11. Free, Mystic Bowie
12. Oye Mi Voz, Los Cintron
13. Walk On, Carolyn Wonderland
14. Coney Island Winter, Garland Jefferys
15. China Basin Digs, Joel Rafael
16. Walkin', The Pimps of Joytime (feat. Roy Ayers)
17. River's Gonna Rise (Live), Warren Haynes Band
18. Rich Man's World, Immortal Technique
19. Staying Out And Calling In, Danger Field
Disc: 4
1. We Can't Make It Here, James McMurtry with Joan Baez & Steve Earle
2. We Are, New Party Systems (feat. Kyp Malone)
3. Revolution, Nova Echo
4. Number One, Born I Music
5. Play The Greed, Dar Williams
6. Broke Heart Blues, Ronny Elliot
7. What Are Their Names, David Crosby & Graham Nash
8. Make A Stand, Dylan Chambers with Lester Chambers
9. Better Luck Next Time, Jennie Arnau
10. All Over The World, Arlo Guthrie & Family
11. We're The 99, Lauren Diamond (feat. Liz O'Donnell)
12. We Are Human, Mike + Ruthy
13. Blessed, Lucinda Williams
14. Freedom Of Speech, Kanaska Carter
15. Reclaim, Rejectionist Front
16. Occupy (We the 99), Jasiri X
17. Earth Division, Mogwai
18. Occupy Wall Street Drummers "Pulse" Spoken Word By Paul Spitz, Occupy Wall Street Drummers "Pulse" With Spoken Word By Paul Spitz

i'm just saying i know a lot of people who hate banks and wall st who aren't going to be very impressed w fighting cops or staging street theatre

― the late great, Thursday, May 10, 2012 1:15 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

send them to this thing my friends made

http://whatthefuckhasoccupydone.com/

like frankly i'm kinda done with "occupy" as a banner to rally under--in dc, and i hear the same is true in ny and oakland and boston and chicago, we're no longer one group because we've become many satellite groups that only connect irregularly to keep each other updated and reinforce each other when it's helpful. in a lot of ways we're more effective that way, i think.

like, two weeks ago i helped save a lady's house from illegal foreclosure. the "occupy our homes" name helped get her story in the paper, but none of the people with me at that action are the type to get off on street scraps with riot cops. a week after that i spent two days at a conference organized by our corporate personhood working group connecting activists with academics and experts and resources to move a little further forward on reforming campaign finance. some of the people there were revolutionary anarchists building homeless shelters, and one of them said, "building a new world in the shell of the old doesn't mean i want to see people getting killed as the shell is collapsing." there's diversity of views, tactics, strategies. we're attacking these issues from a lot of directions, and as a consequence you'll never find a unified program under an occupy banner. instead you'll find lots of programs, and you can roll with the one that suits you, and that program might play one part in the big struggle.

hoos i wish you great luck w your movement, which i'm sympathetic to

fair enough. sorry if i came off as hostile, i've just gotten touchy about "the *real*/rest of the/whole 99%" bit of rhetoric as i've come to see it as a bit of a canard. and i think that the less we rally under this OccupyTM banner, the less likely we are to have people fighting with cops turning people off from investigating the other work we're doing that they might take an interest in.

can i just

Disc: 1
1. Something's Got to Give, Matt Pless
2. Come On, Come On, Come On, Jackson Browne
3. Occupation Freedom, George Martinez & The Global Block Collective
4. People Have The Power (Live In Marseille), Patti Smith
5. Love Anthem (Only Love), My Pet Dragon
6. The Panic is On, Loudon Wainwright III
7. Occulture, Cosmonaut
8. Save Us, Papercranes (feat. Rain Phoenix)
9. Smile (Get Up and Sing), Jay Samel
10. This Is What America Looks Like, Tenderflex (DJ Logic & David Maurice) feat. Dynasty Electric, Ayler Young and Jay Rodriguez
11. Big Little Wolfs, Aeroplane Pageant
12. Agent 99, Alex Emanuel
13. Safety In Numbers, Deborah Harry
14. Hey, can I Sleep On Your Futon?, Richard Barone
15. Occupy Wall Street "Here Here Here", Black Dragon
16. White Gold, Ladytron
17. Greed, Gabriel Aldort
18. Against The Machine, Taj Weekes & Adowa
19. The Young Idealists, Lloyd Cole20.A Peaceful Solution, Willie Nelson
Disc: 2
1. The Time They Are a-Changin', Michael Moore
2. The World Is On Fire, Ace Reporter
3. Latter Days, The Middle Eight
4. Turn The Lights On, Chroma
5. Which Side Are You On? Ani DiFranco
6. Well May The World Go, Tao Rodriguez-Seeger
7. Unified Tribes, Thievery Corporation
8. Robber Barons, Thee Oh Sees
9. Saving Up To Go Bankrupt, Mike Rimbaud
10. Hell No (I'm Not Alright), Nanci Griffith
11. We Stand As One, Joseph Arthur
12. Cash Machine, Girls Against Boys
13. Rebellion Politik, Junkyard Empire
14. Nothing Recedes Like Progress, Anti-Flag
15. Rebel, Fear Nuttin Band
16. Under The Bridge, Jill Sobule with John Doe
17. Take A Stand, Stephan Said
18. The Answer, UNKLE
19. World Wide Rebel Songs, Tom Morello: The Nightwatchman
20. If There Ever Was A Time, Third Eye Blind
Disc: 3
1. Move On Fast, Yoko Ono
2. If We Live, Build The Sun
3. Fight The Good Fight, Our Lady Peace
4. I Don't Need Money, Julie B Bonnie
5. The World Is Turning, Toots & The Maytals
6. A New York Minute, Nickodemus feat. The Real Live Show, Sadat X, ILLspokinN and Rabbi Darkside
7. The Cash All Flows To Me , Gentleman Brawlers
8. Industrial Park, The Mammals (feat. Pete Seeger)
9. Big Fish, Yo La Tengo & the Lost City Rumblers
10. Occu-Pie, Harry Hayward
11. Free, Mystic Bowie
12. Oye Mi Voz, Los Cintron
13. Walk On, Carolyn Wonderland
14. Coney Island Winter, Garland Jefferys
15. China Basin Digs, Joel Rafael
16. Walkin', The Pimps of Joytime (feat. Roy Ayers)
17. River's Gonna Rise (Live), Warren Haynes Band
18. Rich Man's World, Immortal Technique
19. Staying Out And Calling In, Danger Field
Disc: 4
1. We Can't Make It Here, James McMurtry with Joan Baez & Steve Earle
2. We Are, New Party Systems (feat. Kyp Malone)
3. Revolution, Nova Echo
4. Number One, Born I Music
5. Play The Greed, Dar Williams
6. Broke Heart Blues, Ronny Elliot
7. What Are Their Names, David Crosby & Graham Nash
8. Make A Stand, Dylan Chambers with Lester Chambers
9. Better Luck Next Time, Jennie Arnau
10. All Over The World, Arlo Guthrie & Family
11. We're The 99, Lauren Diamond (feat. Liz O'Donnell)
12. We Are Human, Mike + Ruthy
13. Blessed, Lucinda Williams
14. Freedom Of Speech, Kanaska Carter
15. Reclaim, Rejectionist Front
16. Occupy (We the 99), Jasiri X
17. Earth Division, Mogwai
18. Occupy Wall Street Drummers "Pulse" Spoken Word By Paul Spitz, Occupy Wall Street Drummers "Pulse" With Spoken Word By Paul Spitz

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 10 May 2012 02:18 (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol i should have done the ILX Protest Record thread, it wld have been so much better than anything with Michael Moore and Ani DiFranco on it. Damn sandbox months.