NYC turnout was WAY more than 6k at union square at least; I'd say closer to 30K at least
― "in this super-sexy postracial age" (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 15:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
free the cleveland idiots
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah 30k seems like a reasonable estimate
― iatee, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
30k in NYC and only a 100 in DC?
In Washington, more than 100 supporters of Occupy D.C. gathered in Meridian Hill Park before the march to the White House, joined by local members of unions such as the Metropolitan Washington Council of the AFL-CIO and the Amalgamated Transit Union. They unfurled red flags, played guitars, painted cardboard signs and played “Inequality Pong,” a game whose players tried to drop a Ping-Pong ball into a cup labeled “1 percent.”
As the march began and the protesters moved down 14th Street toward the White House, participant Brittany Duck, 24, a student, said she hoped that the day would reinvigorate the local Occupy movement.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 18:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
I just worked. Sorry Hoos
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 18:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
NY wrapup by The Nation, w/ video:
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
i missed part of the day at the park, so i'm not sure when annie was there & suspect she saw the crowd at a lull--the march was 5-600
easily two dozen of our key organizers decided to spend mayday in new york, which kinda pissed me off
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
More coverage of the Occupy the SEC folks
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
same ol' same ol' from Fox tv folks
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 3 May 2012 19:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
Tho IMO we should be careful about "normalizing" their outrageous bullshit.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 3 May 2012 20:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
Today a woman I work with was lamenting a blog post by a feminist blogger using a picture of Nick Nolte as an example of ugliness "too judgmental," yet I know the same woman would shrug at this story. "Eh, what do you expect?"
That shrugging is part of the equation that people like Malkin thrive on.
― ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Friday, 4 May 2012 00:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
"cleveland occupy leaders were arrested in connection with the bridge bomb plot"
― their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Friday, 4 May 2012 00:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
of course they were
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 4 May 2012 00:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
10 to 1 none of occ cleave's charges stick
On the police tactics in NYC on 5/1:
Snatch-and-grab police tactics intimidate crowds, but do not lead to the sort of dramatic mass arrest scenes that capture national headlines; it’s a more insidious form of crowd control. It is worth adding, however, that there was no shortage of police aggression: At one point I saw firsthand as a marcher was grabbed by police in the Lower East Side, his face slammed to the street. When pulled up and taken away, officers covered his face with his T-shirt so onlookers could not see the blood.
Then, after the mass evening march in New York had finished and no more than a thousand people had moved to the Vietnam Veteran’s Memorial park at Manhattan’s southerly tip, the NYPD once again covered the area. Some remaining hundreds of the May Day participants had gathered for a mass general assembly; others milled around, sharing stories about the day or dancing to the ever-present drumbeats. The police encircled the small concrete park in time to disperse the relaxed crowd at 10 p.m., when the park closes. Clad in riot gear, the number of officers kept growing; hundreds and hundreds on foot and in vans surrounded the memorial park and every office building, street and corner. The NYPD is the seventh largest standing army in the world, and on the evening of May 1, New York felt like a city under military siege — it was terrifying.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 May 2012 15:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, May 3, 2012 8:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Agree, but as you most certainly know it is hard to keep fighting back 24-7 so as to call them on this stuff. It's hard to compete with the money of Karl Rove's pals.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 4 May 2012 15:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
The NYPD is the seventh largest standing army in the world
― how's life, Friday, 4 May 2012 15:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
Okay, it's something Mayor Bloomberg said. What a dumb thing to say.
― how's life, Friday, 4 May 2012 15:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
Is it not a true thing?
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 4 May 2012 16:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
As an army, they would be somewhere in between Tunisia and Belgium.
― how's life, Friday, 4 May 2012 16:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah he basically made that up it's bullshit, unless he has some tricky definition of "standing army"
― Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
Bloomie is no Tricky
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
It's remarkably hard to get any intelligible google results for sitting or kneeling armies
― L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
i imagine he's including, like, school cops and subway workers
― (Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
the NYPD like to stand so their incredible overweight is of maximum use in blockading intersections
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 May 2012 16:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
People's Republic of China 2,285,000
United States of America 1,458,219
India[note f] 1,325,000
North Korea[note k] 1,106,000
Russian Federation[note o] 1,027,000
Republic of Korea[note r] 687,000
Turkey 666,576 Pakistan 617,000
― L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Friday, 4 May 2012 17:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
3:02 on gave me goosebumps
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 6 May 2012 02:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
Joshua Clover and 11 students facing significant jail time.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 May 2012 16:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
wow. Not good
― curmudgeon, Monday, 7 May 2012 16:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
If you check the Aggie's website:
According to the Yolo County District Attorney’s office a plea deal will be offered. Should they plead guilty they would receive a sentence of 80 hours of community service.
― booblights and the eternal frustration (how's life), Monday, 7 May 2012 16:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
One of my closest homies wa arrested on mayday in NYC and we've finally tracked him down. He's being held at Rikers until his June 5th court date, bail remanded. Because he was in a fucking march.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 7 May 2012 17:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
Alerting any NY media that give a fuck?
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 May 2012 17:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
fuckin conspiracy charges, always the heavyweight life-ruining thing in these kinds of raps. cuz you know damn well "obstructing movement in a public place" doesn't carry an 11-year max.
that was an xp to the UCD stuff, a month in jail for being on a march is a bad sign as well.
― sleeve, Monday, 7 May 2012 21:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
“The atmosphere teeters manically between carnival and riot — as demonstrators charged yet another police line on May Day afternoon, a small group diligently pushed the sound system along at the rear of the crowd, blasting music for the confrontation. The moment encapsulated the movement’s youthful, outlaw appeal: It gives participants the choice to dance or fight the cops — or both.”
great goddamn piece
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 20:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 10 May 2012 00:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
I soak land burning?
― Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Thursday, 10 May 2012 00:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
(NOW SERVING SAN FRANSISCO AS WELL)
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 10 May 2012 01:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
The moment encapsulated the movement’s youthful, outlaw appeal: It gives participants the choice to dance or fight the cops — or both
glad to see young people are still having fun, good luck convincing the 99% you have an actual political agenda
― the late great, Thursday, 10 May 2012 01:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 10 May 2012 01:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
it's a piece written from the ground about an action and the ensuing tactical scuffles. the tactics in the piece are a handful among many others, some deeply engaged in the regulatory weeds & demands-making of reformism and others taking a dual power approach to build community strength for direct pushback & construction of alternatives. in a STUNNING FUCKIN TWIST, you don't get that context in this story about a single day of action.
you'd have to look that up for yourself, as the media isn't exactly trumpeting our work from the rooftops. i can help if you're curious.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 10 May 2012 01:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
i'm just saying i know a lot of people who hate banks and wall st who aren't going to be very impressed w fighting cops or staging street theatre
― the late great, Thursday, 10 May 2012 01:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
i liked "dance or fight the cops" as a bit of rhetorical flourish & a semi-poetic description of the inevitable carnival-esque atmosphere of big actions that often wind up in escalations of cop violence. it "sums up the movement" in an impressionistic sense, not in any factual way.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 10 May 2012 01:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
can i just
Disc: 11. Something's Got to Give, Matt Pless2. Come On, Come On, Come On, Jackson Browne3. Occupation Freedom, George Martinez & The Global Block Collective4. People Have The Power (Live In Marseille), Patti Smith5. Love Anthem (Only Love), My Pet Dragon6. The Panic is On, Loudon Wainwright III7. Occulture, Cosmonaut8. Save Us, Papercranes (feat. Rain Phoenix)9. Smile (Get Up and Sing), Jay Samel10. This Is What America Looks Like, Tenderflex (DJ Logic & David Maurice) feat. Dynasty Electric, Ayler Young and Jay Rodriguez11. Big Little Wolfs, Aeroplane Pageant12. Agent 99, Alex Emanuel13. Safety In Numbers, Deborah Harry14. Hey, can I Sleep On Your Futon?, Richard Barone15. Occupy Wall Street "Here Here Here", Black Dragon16. White Gold, Ladytron17. Greed, Gabriel Aldort18. Against The Machine, Taj Weekes & Adowa19. The Young Idealists, Lloyd Cole20.A Peaceful Solution, Willie NelsonDisc: 21. The Time They Are a-Changin', Michael Moore2. The World Is On Fire, Ace Reporter3. Latter Days, The Middle Eight4. Turn The Lights On, Chroma5. Which Side Are You On? Ani DiFranco6. Well May The World Go, Tao Rodriguez-Seeger7. Unified Tribes, Thievery Corporation8. Robber Barons, Thee Oh Sees9. Saving Up To Go Bankrupt, Mike Rimbaud10. Hell No (I'm Not Alright), Nanci Griffith11. We Stand As One, Joseph Arthur12. Cash Machine, Girls Against Boys13. Rebellion Politik, Junkyard Empire14. Nothing Recedes Like Progress, Anti-Flag15. Rebel, Fear Nuttin Band16. Under The Bridge, Jill Sobule with John Doe17. Take A Stand, Stephan Said18. The Answer, UNKLE19. World Wide Rebel Songs, Tom Morello: The Nightwatchman20. If There Ever Was A Time, Third Eye BlindDisc: 31. Move On Fast, Yoko Ono2. If We Live, Build The Sun3. Fight The Good Fight, Our Lady Peace4. I Don't Need Money, Julie B Bonnie5. The World Is Turning, Toots & The Maytals6. A New York Minute, Nickodemus feat. The Real Live Show, Sadat X, ILLspokinN and Rabbi Darkside7. The Cash All Flows To Me , Gentleman Brawlers8. Industrial Park, The Mammals (feat. Pete Seeger)9. Big Fish, Yo La Tengo & the Lost City Rumblers10. Occu-Pie, Harry Hayward11. Free, Mystic Bowie12. Oye Mi Voz, Los Cintron13. Walk On, Carolyn Wonderland14. Coney Island Winter, Garland Jefferys15. China Basin Digs, Joel Rafael16. Walkin', The Pimps of Joytime (feat. Roy Ayers)17. River's Gonna Rise (Live), Warren Haynes Band18. Rich Man's World, Immortal Technique19. Staying Out And Calling In, Danger FieldDisc: 41. We Can't Make It Here, James McMurtry with Joan Baez & Steve Earle2. We Are, New Party Systems (feat. Kyp Malone)3. Revolution, Nova Echo4. Number One, Born I Music5. Play The Greed, Dar Williams6. Broke Heart Blues, Ronny Elliot7. What Are Their Names, David Crosby & Graham Nash8. Make A Stand, Dylan Chambers with Lester Chambers9. Better Luck Next Time, Jennie Arnau10. All Over The World, Arlo Guthrie & Family11. We're The 99, Lauren Diamond (feat. Liz O'Donnell)12. We Are Human, Mike + Ruthy13. Blessed, Lucinda Williams14. Freedom Of Speech, Kanaska Carter15. Reclaim, Rejectionist Front16. Occupy (We the 99), Jasiri X17. Earth Division, Mogwai18. Occupy Wall Street Drummers "Pulse" Spoken Word By Paul Spitz, Occupy Wall Street Drummers "Pulse" With Spoken Word By Paul Spitz
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 10 May 2012 01:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
― the late great, Thursday, May 10, 2012 1:15 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
send them to this thing my friends made
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 10 May 2012 01:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
like frankly i'm kinda done with "occupy" as a banner to rally under--in dc, and i hear the same is true in ny and oakland and boston and chicago, we're no longer one group because we've become many satellite groups that only connect irregularly to keep each other updated and reinforce each other when it's helpful. in a lot of ways we're more effective that way, i think.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 10 May 2012 01:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
like, two weeks ago i helped save a lady's house from illegal foreclosure. the "occupy our homes" name helped get her story in the paper, but none of the people with me at that action are the type to get off on street scraps with riot cops. a week after that i spent two days at a conference organized by our corporate personhood working group connecting activists with academics and experts and resources to move a little further forward on reforming campaign finance. some of the people there were revolutionary anarchists building homeless shelters, and one of them said, "building a new world in the shell of the old doesn't mean i want to see people getting killed as the shell is collapsing." there's diversity of views, tactics, strategies. we're attacking these issues from a lot of directions, and as a consequence you'll never find a unified program under an occupy banner. instead you'll find lots of programs, and you can roll with the one that suits you, and that program might play one part in the big struggle.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 10 May 2012 01:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
hoos i wish you great luck w your movement, which i'm sympathetic to
― the late great, Thursday, 10 May 2012 01:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
fair enough. sorry if i came off as hostile, i've just gotten touchy about "the *real*/rest of the/whole 99%" bit of rhetoric as i've come to see it as a bit of a canard. and i think that the less we rally under this OccupyTM banner, the less likely we are to have people fighting with cops turning people off from investigating the other work we're doing that they might take an interest in.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 10 May 2012 01:53 (1 year ago) Permalink