and to the extent that Michael even loves his family.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 23:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
Watched I and II over the weekend.
I - I adore Brando, not so much his delivery but all the small things he does to add color to Vito. The way he casually brushes off Solazzo's pants at the sit-down, that opening scene with the cat...he feels like a real person, somehow? I read Kael's review and I like the thing she said about how Brando internalizes all of the power of the Don. It's like his violent past is buried deep in his old man soul so you can feel his power just by him being in the room. And the quietness of Pacino just gets me. He's so measured and good in the beginning, and then measured and ready, and tough; and then measured and calculating.
II - I've only seen it once before. I def found the details of the story a lot more confusing, especially the Roth connections and the double-play Michael was making about his suspicions on who shot him up at Tahoe...but the DeNiro scenes were fantastic. And the way it was like the thread you were watching going forwards with DeNiro, by contrast wtih Pacino it's like even though he's building that empire you're seeing him lose everything that Vito gained. All through I, Vito is surrounded by associates and family and friends adn everyone is so close to him, the parties seem like huge extended families...but Michael has everyone on a pending kill list, even his own family. I have been thinking a lot about what exactly it was that bred that impulse in Michael, as though he misinterpreted the shooting of his father as a call to arms to shoot everyone who crossed his path from then on.
The last couple of scenes of II really slayed me though. That table scene with Sonny, Fredo, Michael and Connie and I'm kind of teary just on the weight of seeing them all alive again, lol. And then Michael staring out at the lake alone at that big mansion.
Oh, and I adore the score. Adore it. Maybe moreso in I than II though. I it was much more noticeable, felt much more like a radio melodrama with its musical cues.
sorry for the blather I've just had it in my head all day and had to get it out!
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 August 2012 21:13 (9 months ago) Permalink
It was only over many viewings that that most of the details in II started to fall in place--there are probably still a couple that I couldn't fully explain. (E.g.: Why does Michael go off on Pentangeli the way he does during his "In my home" tirade? He seems to have made up his mind by that point that it was Roth who set him up, not Pentangeli.) My favourite line from the flashback dinner scene: "Talked to my father about my future? My future."
― clemenza, Monday, 20 August 2012 21:29 (9 months ago) Permalink
YES. That killed me.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 August 2012 21:39 (9 months ago) Permalink
I loved Fredo's speech in the chair to Michael too, the one you said some of the kids in your class performed upthread; the way he's flailing around helplessly in that stupid chair while simultaneously pleading for respect was hilarious and sad.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 August 2012 21:41 (9 months ago) Permalink
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 13:35 (5 months ago) Permalink
I really think evidence that Coppola even fleetingly considered the Indian chief from "F Troop" for Don Corleone to be p significant.
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:49 (5 months ago) Permalink
TS: Anthony Zerbe as Sonny Corleone vs. Anthony Zerbe as Tom Hagen
― Gollum: "Hot, Ready and Smeagol!" (Phil D.), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:53 (5 months ago) Permalink
I didn't realize Zerbe was in his mid 30s at the time, always seemed older.
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:54 (5 months ago) Permalink
The theatre where I saw II last night was giving these out at the door:
I'm sure this has been raised many times, but I'd never thought about how puzzling the timeline is jumping from II to III. II ends sometime after 1958--within a year, say. III is set in 1979. Mary is around, what, 6 or 7 in II? That'd make her late 20s in III. But isn't Sofia Coppola supposed to be 18 or 19 in III? Or am I mixing up the actress's age with the character's?
― clemenza, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 00:27 (4 months ago) Permalink
yeah that whole thing did my head in, I had to stop thinking about it
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 00:31 (4 months ago) Permalink
Literally the first time I'd ever thought about it, primarily because I try never to think about III.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 00:37 (4 months ago) Permalink
did you know today was the day don michael corleone traveled forward in time to die on at the end of godfather 3?
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 00:46 (4 months ago) Permalink
I watched them back to back a while ago (or at least, within a day or two of each other)...such a bad idea.
You need a xanax to deal wtih the transition
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 00:47 (4 months ago) Permalink
I did II and III within a couple of days of each other too. It's interesting to see up close just what happens to the functioning of it all when you tear out the European art film element and replace it wholesale with a US soap element.
― hot young stalin (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 02:56 (4 months ago) Permalink
It took me a good hour to stop saying GAH! MY EYES
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 02:58 (4 months ago) Permalink
i really loved III when i saw it at the movies. but i was 15 and i was so damned in love with sofia coppola. can't face seeing it again.
― SOYLENT GREEN IS SHEEPLE (stevie), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 08:33 (4 months ago) Permalink