the most important election of your lifetime: 2012 american general election thread

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I can vaguely understand the religious liberty part but only if it, itself, negates the freedom of association part

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's just classic "what about my freedom to oppress people" nonsense

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

read this bit today, seemed relevant

...Others, due to fear, “become perceived threats.” And if they’re not threatening enough on their own, then we’ll just have to make them seem more threatening — pretend that they’re Satanic baby-killing monsters intent on destroying American families and outlawing religion.

That’s what evangelical tribalism looks like in practice. It’s driven by fear of the Other. Not because those others are different from us, but because we’re frighteningly indistinguishable from them. Thus the need for totemic tribal symbols and “stances.” And thus the need to confront everyone, everywhere and demand that they declare which side they’re on.

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 00:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also, a certain ilx alum's take on Romney's aide quitting

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 00:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Huh, I never knew that Pareene himself was here - who was he?

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 00:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Motorcycle hero
Bebebebebebebe he's lookin so cute
Sneakin round round round in a blue jumpsuit

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 00:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

I can vaguely understand the religious liberty part but only if it, itself, negates the freedom of association part

Nah, that's bullshit.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 13:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

Huh, I never knew that Pareene himself was here - who was he?

a_p/ghost rider

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 13:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh hey remember this guy:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/02/perry-says-god-forgives-people-for-oops-moments/

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

but not for sodomy!

the endless white snow has never felt more textile (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Including the "Oops" guy from To Catch A Predator?

nickn, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 18:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

pedophilia has the possibility of creating life

goole, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 18:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm beginning to think Yahweh isn't even remotely omnipotent

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 18:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

I <3 Shep

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, he's ok for an Ole Miss guy.

pplains, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Courtesy of Mark Shields...

Newt Gingrich: "Why do people take such an instant dislike to me?"

Bob Dole: "Because it saves them time."

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Good to see Tom Millar getting work.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 22:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

A lot of fun for a little while.

http://bcove.me/8ge1a398

clemenza, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 22:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

I lasted about 90 seconds! A new record!

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh wow that thing is amazing & great. RIP your ludicrous campaign you hellbound asshole

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 23:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

The really good news is that I'll be getting 21 hours of my life back, as I had already penciled in seven three-hour Lincoln/Douglas-style debates on the calendar for September and October.

clemenza, Thursday, 3 May 2012 00:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

I want a DVD that's just hours of clips of Shep Smith take-downs, asides and moments of humorous/righteous bewilderment.

I will transmit this information to (Viceroy), Thursday, 3 May 2012 07:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

The NYT mag this weekend addresses Obama and Wall Street's relationship. I can't even...wau:

One of the guests raised his hand; he knew how to solve the problem. The president had won plaudits for his speech on race during the last campaign, the guest noted. It was a soaring address that acknowledged white resentment and urged national unity. What if Obama gave a similarly healing speech about class and inequality? What if he urged an end to attacks on the rich? Around the table, some people shook their heads in disbelief.

“Most people in the financial world,” a top Obama donor later told me, “do not understand how most of America feels about them.” But they think they understand how the president’s inner circle feels about them. “This administration has a more contemptuous view of big money and of Wall Street than any administration in 40 years,” the donor said. “And it shows.”

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 22:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

big money and of Wall Street 'Cause you're speculators not real new wealth creators or 'cause your wealth is used to game the system and corrupt the government. What part of that do you fail to udnerstand?

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Thursday, 3 May 2012 22:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

that's an anecdote for the ages.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 3 May 2012 22:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

"This administration has a more contemptuous view of big money and of Wall Street than any administration in 40 years,” the donor said. “And it shows.”

even wealthy Wall Streeters get butthurt ...

Nu Metal is the best music there is, the rest is pussy shit. (Eisbaer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 22:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

also, when i see Jon Corzine, Henry Paulson and other Wall Street crooks being frogmarched into federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison then i'll believe that Change We Can Believe In truly is "contemptuous ... of big money."

Nu Metal is the best music there is, the rest is pussy shit. (Eisbaer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 22:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

"This administration has a more contemptuous view of big money and of Wall Street than any administration in 40 years,” the donor said. “And it shows.”

First comment: 40 years ago, big money had not amassed the overwhelming mountain of privileges that it has now. Big money and finance in general have made out like bandits under every administration in the past 40 years. So, if the main points of comparison in terms of 'contempt' are presidents Reagan, Bush, Clinton and Bush, then basically we're talking about a level of 'contempt' evinced by still kissing both ass cheeks, but wiping one's mouth afterwards.

Second comment: Gosh! Perhaps Wall Street and "big money" have done something recently that might reasonably increase one's contempt for them - but, what could that be?

Aimless, Thursday, 3 May 2012 22:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

and yet, the entire election depends on getting money from these assholes

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Thursday, 3 May 2012 22:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

the economy relies on these assholes too

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Thursday, 3 May 2012 23:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Thursday, 3 May 2012 23:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

I love how Poppy looks more hammered than the rest.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 23:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

the speech suggested by the Wall Street satrap is akin to a suggestion by a Confederate officer to Lincoln to make a speech indicating that the President urged an end to the swiftness with which Southerners freed their slaves.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 23:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Isn't that Gergen in the background? Reminding everyone to imbibe in moderation?

clemenza, Thursday, 3 May 2012 23:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

yep

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 23:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

and Cronkite

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 23:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

"This administration has a more contemptuous view of big money and of Wall Street than any administration in 40 years,” the donor said. “And it shows.”

Loooool.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 4 May 2012 00:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

i guess that Obama could be seen as more contemptuous of Wall Street than every President from Nixon up to him b/c (a) he occasionally says "mean" things about them; (b) he had the unmitigated audacity to enact some relatively mild reforms and now they have to pay their high-priced lobbyists even more money to completely emasculate even these mild reforms; (c) he talks about wanting them to pay more taxes (lol); and (d) back in 2008, a few of them thought that he was "one of them" (e.g., he went to Harvard).

Nu Metal is the best music there is, the rest is pussy shit. (Eisbaer), Friday, 4 May 2012 00:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

damn the lords of the universe are such pussies. i mean, give your money to whomever you want, but for god's sake stop with the whole self-pitying thing

and while i agree with u eisbaer, i think that we can no longer use the word 'audacity' for at least a generation

mookieproof, Friday, 4 May 2012 00:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Well it makes sense when you consider Goldman Sachs used to be Obama's #1 contributor and now they're Romney's. I guess we'll be hearing alot this year about class warfare and such.

Still, I see "And it shows" and I think of the trillions of dollars we've given big business over the past 4 years and....ugh

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 4 May 2012 01:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

“This administration has a more contemptuous view of big money and of Wall Street than any administration in 40 years”

A lot of good it's done us, eh?

Sometimes my only comfort is hoping that Bill Clinton and Barack Obama secretly hate themselves.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 May 2012 04:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

I mean, they have to, right?

crüt, Friday, 4 May 2012 04:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

can't imagine being president and not developing some severe issues

raw feel vegan (silby), Friday, 4 May 2012 04:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

p. sure those issues do not involve self-hatred

mookieproof, Friday, 4 May 2012 04:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Clinton used to drown his sorrows by eating lots of cheeseburgers and greasy pizza till his arteries got clogged. Obama probably has probably had killer nicotine fits nowadays.

Nu Metal is the best music there is, the rest is pussy shit. (Eisbaer), Friday, 4 May 2012 04:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

to be president these days and not go insane i suspect you basically have to have a serious personality flaw that just happens to shield you from the full implications of the shit you've done -- totally spaced-out and clueless (reagan), an egomaniac (clinton), ignorant and incurious (bush). god only knows what obama's deal is.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 4 May 2012 05:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

You don't have to be nuts to be President...but it helps!

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Friday, 4 May 2012 05:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

But Ann Romney wore a $990 t-shirt on tv the other morning


CBS

CHANTILLY, Va. — The fashion house that makes the nearly $1,000 blouse worn by Ann Romney on morning television earlier this week tells ABC News that they had nothing to do with the wardrobe choice, remarking that they’d prefer to stay out of politics.

“We had nothing to do with it,” a rep for designer Reed Krakoff said. “She must have bought it from Saks or Bergdorf’s, we definitely didn’t send it to her.”

“It’s 100 percent a Reed Krakoff shirt, but we 100 percent didn’t send it to her,” the rep added. ”We don’t get involved politically.”

The shirt, an item in the label’s 2012 Spring/Summer collection, retails for $990, and for those shopping, is called the “The Reed Audubon Silk Shirt.”

The price of the shirt was first reported by the style blog Stylite.com.

Mrs. Romney does not have a stylist, according to an aide with the Romney campaign, and is likely to have purchased the shirt on her own.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Ann%20Romney%20900%20shirt

curmudgeon, Friday, 4 May 2012 14:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Blousegate. Love the url "Ann Romney Wears Shirt."

Advanced Uncle Meat recovery system (Dan Peterson), Friday, 4 May 2012 14:19 (2 years ago) Permalink


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