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so i suppose this generational determinism is yet another boomer inanity -- by extrapolating from their own provenance in the immediate postwar, they force the young into procrustean categories even where no demographically epochal event exists

― Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, May 1, 2012 11:01 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

&

i refuse to believe that any of these people exist

― max, Tuesday, May 1, 2012 11:04 AM (41 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^

a la bouquet marmoset (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

there was once a time in history when generations lasted the length of a monarch's reign. much preferable imho.

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

i won't let you fall
what you got to lose?
what you got to prove?
who you gonna screw down here?

mookieproof, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

i hate all of the generations

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

they force the young into procrustean categories even where no demographically epochal event exists

Tbf, their generation, esp during the 60's was pretty epochal.

To what extent do you think you fit in/identify w/your generation?

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

For all of their excesses, I have tremendous respect/love for so much art of the '60s that I could never be dismissive of boomers (realizing, I guess, that some of that art was created by people of the previous generation or two). I'm biased towards my own sub-generation, the very end of that spectrum (I was born in '61): old enough to have fallen in love with the Beatles before they broke up, but young enough to be completely in sync with the stupider aspects of the '70s in a way that someone five or ten years older might not have been.

clemenza, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

epochal event refers to their parents not themselves

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

yet more boomer arrogation

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

but yeah, lumping people into generations always seems really bizarre to me. we should vote on which of the chinese year/animals is the worst. rooster, rooster, rooster!

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

the actually machers of the 1960s were not some twenty yr olds from liverpool or haight in any case

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

Like others here, I always thought I was generation X, but I guess I'm generation Y? I don't really know what that means - at least I can pinpoint what the press thought generation X was, even if it didn't really apply to that many people I knew...

emil.y, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

no one is more infatuated with boomers than a boomer

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol @ iatee's graphic

if I'd answered that survey, the Reagan/Bush diagram would have a little asterisk on it that said "one respondent wrote in his father"

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

i wonder what sort of epochal event might have occurred in the early 2000s that might have defined the generation coming of age during that era, hmmmm

zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

also super lolz at ppl itt discovering to their horror that they are the attention craving special snowflake brats they hate

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

wtc meant shit to most ppl outside of america

it isnt, in any case, an event of /demographic/ importance

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

How about Internet / collapse of world economy / rise of animal collective?

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think the boomers did have a sense of generational solidarity, though, and as procrustean as it may be to impose that on subsequent generations, perhaps they're either blind to following generations' having less of it or they don't approve of such anti-social tendencies. I definitely got a vibe from my dad in the 70's/80's that things had been more hopeful in the 60's and that the 70's had too many ppl just looking out for themselves w/o enough committment to social justice. Then Reagan got elected.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

those were mostly the same people

their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

i guess animal collective concerts/listservs might be demographically important, search census for ppl called 'noah lennox _____' born 2k4-2k9 or whenever

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

uh... aren't we talking about america itt?

zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

u cannot trust anything a boomer says about boomers. If they thought we'd believe it they'd claim that everyone in the sixties exclusively ate harmony flowers, stopped violence with soulful vibrations and everyone loved one another w the heat of a thousand life giving suns

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think one of the stereotypes of millenials is they like their parents. I find that kind of cute tbh.

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah well hopefully not just america, else u can all go talk about the grateful dead and spiro agnew's toilet routine

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

those were mostly the same people

Oh, absolutely!

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

I don't think the 20-year generations thing is going to work at all from the 1990s onward (and was obv problematic before). Kids born five years apart seem like they're going to have vastly different experiences.

I was born in '81 and I feel like while we were around the first to 'grow up with the Internet,' the technological pace was relatively slow and we had a lot of culture in common with people a few years older (esp. if we had older siblings or friends). Whereas now I'd be lumped into Gen Y and I am just utterly, massively confused by the experiences of anyone 5 years younger than me, much less 10-20.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

The other 20 year problem is that ppl aren't having their kids at 20 in the same numbers they used to.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

As a teenager I wrote and drew for the 'teen' section of the local paper (called ATTITUDE, a word that took up half the page like a WWII "WAR!" headline because they could never generate enough content). One of my teenaged peers, a redheaded Wiccan, wrote a column called THE VOICE OF X. This was 1998 or so, and she kept having to rebuff letters to the editor alleging she was too young to be a gen X'er. Seriously, half her columns were about trying to define generations in a way that justified the name of her column. It was pretty silly.

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

the 'president when you were eighteen' infogram is stupid, because (since we lack indisputable proof that eighteen is the year when political convictions were irrevocably formed, and has been this way the entire time anyone of voting age now has been alive) you could tell an entirely different story by shifting the goalposts - just take 'president when you were sixteen' or 'when you were twenty-one' as determining it instead

nah there is evidence that youthful political convictions generally stick but even if there weren't, the point is to observe a set group over time

iatee, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

To what extent do you think you fit in/identify w/your generation?

I straddle the line between fitting the stereotype and heavily relating to this:

Really, though, I don't know that any of this generational labeling is particularly meaningful in anything but the broadest sense (e.g. there are a lot of boomers, generation "text" or whatevs is probably gonna be more tech-savvy). If you think you've adequately summed up and/or are the voice of a particular generation, you're probably doing it wrong.

Vaginal Meshes Of The Afternoon (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

it occurs to me that the easiest way to read the top row is 'old people are racist'

xp

thomp, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

instead of being concerned with generations of the past I think we should think about generations of the future

for example:
the spacefaring generation
the exoplanet terraforming generation

dayo, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

i mean, i think the graph is interesting but i think that the goalposts are pretty arbitrary: they're assuming the weight of political consciousness falls the same way upon someone who turns eighteen the day of the new frontier speech as it does someone who turns eighteen the day they join a march yelling 'hey hey lbj etc'

thomp, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

i voted millenials haha suck it millenials

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

and i think the results for
'not yet eighteen when kennedy was shot'
'not yet eighteen during watergate'
'not yet eighteen during the iran hostage crisis'
'not yet eighteen when the berlin war fell'
'not yet eighteen for gulf war ii'
would probably confirm our biases just as effectively and yet they'd tell a pretty different story about 'generations'

thomp, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

oy, spot the error

thomp, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

iatee, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

who told them about our secret language

iatee, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

millenials seems the least skeptical of authority of anyone since them who fought in the great wars

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

People of Clemenza's generation do kind of interest me, those old enough to have soaked up the energy of the '60s and then experience the whiplash into the stupor of the '70s... perhaps it didn't actually feel like that in the moment but it certainly looks like that in (US-biased) retrospect.

The only time I remember that felt like a massive zeitgeist shift was around 1979-1981.

Side note: I seem to recall that when Douglas Coupland came out with the book Generation X the people in it were mostly born in the early 1960s, like Coupland himself. Somehow the Gen X boundary got shifted forward to 1965 and early '60s is now "late boomers." Which actually seems to make more sense to me.

Josefa, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

iatee, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha people who are zero whats up w/them

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

dayo, your hopes for the future are awfully sanguine. First there's going to be the drone gang war generation

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

generation Z (zero)

max, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

generation waterworld

iatee, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

voted for millenials because i hope for my son's sake that his generation is slightly less insufferable than the current young adult crowd

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

considering voting for gen z because they are the spawn of gen x

iatee, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

millenials seems the least skeptical of authority of anyone since them who fought in the great wars

I dunno man, that's the narrative but it seems like the Occupy movement was as millenial as it was any other generation.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm in that gray zone between X and Y and can't imagine anyone worse that my peers

suidavyvan eht nioj (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

i dunno man, do you think the kids 5 or 10 or 15 years younger than us are cooler? semi-serious question.

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

The time is ripe for Generation Banaka

― Banaka™ (banaka), Wednesday, May 2, 2012 3:40 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

your native bacon (mh), Friday, 10 August 2012 14:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

so u say u want banakalution / well, you know, we all want to be uploaded into the singularity

Mordy, Friday, 10 August 2012 14:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

fulled formed adult banaka units

your native bacon (mh), Friday, 10 August 2012 14:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

boomers.

coffin on the dancefloor (boy_slayer), Friday, 18 January 2013 00:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

FXX is just asking for lols

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 18 January 2013 00:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

i guess my children will be watching FXXX some day

Mordy, Friday, 18 January 2013 00:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

and their web channel FXXX YOU

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 18 January 2013 00:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

the relatable, eternally depressing existence of the aged

j., Friday, 18 January 2013 01:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

http://www.salon.com/2013/02/16/millennials_will_save_us/

Mordy, Saturday, 16 February 2013 22:55 (1 year ago) Permalink


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