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Boomers seem like such an obvious choice because there's never been a group of people who loved to talk about how wonderful they are as much as they continue to do.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

generally there's a new generation born every 20 years

Lost Generation: 1883-1900
Greatest Generation: 1901-1924
Silent Generation: 1925-1945
Boomers: 1946-1964
Gen X: 1965-~1970's
Gen Y: late ~1970's-2000
Generation Text: 2000-???

'lost generation' surely only ever retrospective. also lol 'silent generation', what the fuck america

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the 'president when you were eighteen' infogram is stupid, because (since we lack indisputable proof that eighteen is the year when political convictions were irrevocably formed, and has been this way the entire time anyone of voting age now has been alive) you could tell an entirely different story by shifting the goalposts - just take 'president when you were sixteen' or 'when you were twenty-one' as determining it instead

thomp, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

greatest generation is a really stupid term too, actually

thomp, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

no worst there is none

markers, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

greatest generation is a really stupid term too, actually

Blame Brokaw.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm still in awe about the idiocy of the term 'silent generation', what on earth did the ppl born in those two decades think of being labeled with that

thomp, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

they kept schtum so we will never know

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

I voted millennials only for the reason that they're at that age when one begins publicly declaring one's gerneration exceptional. I don't actually have strong feelings about Gen Y, I just think discussions around generational taxonomy are insipid. Unfortunately, Gen Y are of the age that others are writing about them and they are writing about themselves.

i.e. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/igeneration/generation-y-doesnt-exist-really-were-definitely-here/7106

a la bouquet marmoset (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

this reminds me of this poll or article or something about 'the best footballers of the 2000s' which, unsurprisingly, was full of players born in the late 1970s who had their peak athletic years during the decade, but because of that happenstance they were especially great

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

the "silent generation" includes most of the countercultural artists the boomers think they're super revolutionary for having bought products by

their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Generation X/Y cusp here - October 1980. Most would probably put me in Y but I identify more with X. There's definitely a cultural/attitude shift in people only a year or two younger than me that I've noticed.

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

so i suppose this generational determinism is yet another boomer inanity -- by extrapolating from their own provenance in the immediate postwar, they force the young into procrustean categories even where no demographically epochal event exists

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Generation Z (also known as Generation M (for multitasking), Generation C (for Connected Generation), the Net Generation, or the Internet Generation) is a common name in the US and other Western nations for the group of people born from the early to mid 1990s to 2010, with the earliest date starting in 1991.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19][20][21][22][23][24]

― Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, May 1, 2012 11:18 AM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i refuse to believe that any of these people exist

max, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

i object to the terminology "generation y" by the way

max, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

how long has this generation-naming business been in effect? this is a late-20th-century thing, right? there are thousands of generations that haven't been named yet.

Let's get to naming.

(obv, these are generations of americans we've been talking about, and the further back you go, the more divergent experiences become.)

a la bouquet marmoset (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

i refuse to be labelled as "the generation after x"

max, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

'Silent generation' comes from Nixon referring to a silent majority who weren't screaming hippies or McGovernites.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

so i suppose this generational determinism is yet another boomer inanity -- by extrapolating from their own provenance in the immediate postwar, they force the young into procrustean categories even where no demographically epochal event exists

― Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, May 1, 2012 11:01 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

&

i refuse to believe that any of these people exist

― max, Tuesday, May 1, 2012 11:04 AM (41 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^

a la bouquet marmoset (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

there was once a time in history when generations lasted the length of a monarch's reign. much preferable imho.

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

i won't let you fall
what you got to lose?
what you got to prove?
who you gonna screw down here?

mookieproof, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

i hate all of the generations

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

they force the young into procrustean categories even where no demographically epochal event exists

Tbf, their generation, esp during the 60's was pretty epochal.

To what extent do you think you fit in/identify w/your generation?

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

For all of their excesses, I have tremendous respect/love for so much art of the '60s that I could never be dismissive of boomers (realizing, I guess, that some of that art was created by people of the previous generation or two). I'm biased towards my own sub-generation, the very end of that spectrum (I was born in '61): old enough to have fallen in love with the Beatles before they broke up, but young enough to be completely in sync with the stupider aspects of the '70s in a way that someone five or ten years older might not have been.

clemenza, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

epochal event refers to their parents not themselves

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

yet more boomer arrogation

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

but yeah, lumping people into generations always seems really bizarre to me. we should vote on which of the chinese year/animals is the worst. rooster, rooster, rooster!

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

the actually machers of the 1960s were not some twenty yr olds from liverpool or haight in any case

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Like others here, I always thought I was generation X, but I guess I'm generation Y? I don't really know what that means - at least I can pinpoint what the press thought generation X was, even if it didn't really apply to that many people I knew...

emil.y, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

no one is more infatuated with boomers than a boomer

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol @ iatee's graphic

if I'd answered that survey, the Reagan/Bush diagram would have a little asterisk on it that said "one respondent wrote in his father"

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

i wonder what sort of epochal event might have occurred in the early 2000s that might have defined the generation coming of age during that era, hmmmm

zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

also super lolz at ppl itt discovering to their horror that they are the attention craving special snowflake brats they hate

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

wtc meant shit to most ppl outside of america

it isnt, in any case, an event of /demographic/ importance

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

How about Internet / collapse of world economy / rise of animal collective?

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think the boomers did have a sense of generational solidarity, though, and as procrustean as it may be to impose that on subsequent generations, perhaps they're either blind to following generations' having less of it or they don't approve of such anti-social tendencies. I definitely got a vibe from my dad in the 70's/80's that things had been more hopeful in the 60's and that the 70's had too many ppl just looking out for themselves w/o enough committment to social justice. Then Reagan got elected.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

those were mostly the same people

their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

i guess animal collective concerts/listservs might be demographically important, search census for ppl called 'noah lennox _____' born 2k4-2k9 or whenever

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

uh... aren't we talking about america itt?

zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

u cannot trust anything a boomer says about boomers. If they thought we'd believe it they'd claim that everyone in the sixties exclusively ate harmony flowers, stopped violence with soulful vibrations and everyone loved one another w the heat of a thousand life giving suns

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think one of the stereotypes of millenials is they like their parents. I find that kind of cute tbh.

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah well hopefully not just america, else u can all go talk about the grateful dead and spiro agnew's toilet routine

Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

those were mostly the same people

Oh, absolutely!

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't think the 20-year generations thing is going to work at all from the 1990s onward (and was obv problematic before). Kids born five years apart seem like they're going to have vastly different experiences.

I was born in '81 and I feel like while we were around the first to 'grow up with the Internet,' the technological pace was relatively slow and we had a lot of culture in common with people a few years older (esp. if we had older siblings or friends). Whereas now I'd be lumped into Gen Y and I am just utterly, massively confused by the experiences of anyone 5 years younger than me, much less 10-20.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

The other 20 year problem is that ppl aren't having their kids at 20 in the same numbers they used to.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

As a teenager I wrote and drew for the 'teen' section of the local paper (called ATTITUDE, a word that took up half the page like a WWII "WAR!" headline because they could never generate enough content). One of my teenaged peers, a redheaded Wiccan, wrote a column called THE VOICE OF X. This was 1998 or so, and she kept having to rebuff letters to the editor alleging she was too young to be a gen X'er. Seriously, half her columns were about trying to define generations in a way that justified the name of her column. It was pretty silly.

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

the 'president when you were eighteen' infogram is stupid, because (since we lack indisputable proof that eighteen is the year when political convictions were irrevocably formed, and has been this way the entire time anyone of voting age now has been alive) you could tell an entirely different story by shifting the goalposts - just take 'president when you were sixteen' or 'when you were twenty-one' as determining it instead

nah there is evidence that youthful political convictions generally stick but even if there weren't, the point is to observe a set group over time

iatee, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

To what extent do you think you fit in/identify w/your generation?

I straddle the line between fitting the stereotype and heavily relating to this:

Really, though, I don't know that any of this generational labeling is particularly meaningful in anything but the broadest sense (e.g. there are a lot of boomers, generation "text" or whatevs is probably gonna be more tech-savvy). If you think you've adequately summed up and/or are the voice of a particular generation, you're probably doing it wrong.

Vaginal Meshes Of The Afternoon (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

it occurs to me that the easiest way to read the top row is 'old people are racist'

xp

thomp, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

instead of being concerned with generations of the past I think we should think about generations of the future

for example:
the spacefaring generation
the exoplanet terraforming generation

dayo, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

i mean, i think the graph is interesting but i think that the goalposts are pretty arbitrary: they're assuming the weight of political consciousness falls the same way upon someone who turns eighteen the day of the new frontier speech as it does someone who turns eighteen the day they join a march yelling 'hey hey lbj etc'

thomp, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

We are sad, and we are hurt.

clemenza, Friday, 18 May 2012 00:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

they've won again!

DG, Friday, 18 May 2012 00:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

wow, commanding victory there boomers

Mordy, Friday, 18 May 2012 00:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

I thought that entire issue of GenX was available online. I remember trying to access it thru my new university ftp account, as I got my student access the same august/sept it went live.

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Friday, 18 May 2012 00:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

when they came for the boomers, etc.

mookieproof, Friday, 18 May 2012 01:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hah Greatest Generation still the greatest! I did my part to do them in. Thanks for the 50 years of nuclear terror & anti-socialist propoganda, guys.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 18 May 2012 01:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp - there were lots of horror movies on the subject

sarahell, Friday, 18 May 2012 01:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hah Greatest Generation still the greatest! I did my part to do them in. Thanks for the 50 years of nuclear terror & anti-socialist propoganda, guys.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:18 PM Bookmark

To be fair, wasn't most of this the work of Lost Generation or older? eg:

MacArthur born 1880
J. Edgar Hoover born 1895
Dulles brothers born 1888, 1893
Dean Rusk born 1909
Ronald Reagan born 1911
McNamara born 1916
JFK born 1917
Alexander Haig born 1924
etc., etc.

Not sure about Harry Truman, Doris Day, Red China, Johnny Ray, South Pacific, Walter Winchell, or Joe DiMaggio.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 18 May 2012 02:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

eh, it's not so much the people in power as much as the giant group that kept them in place

mh, Friday, 18 May 2012 14:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

ehh, i dunno - - "It's not so much the people who systematically misled the population, as it was the population that was systematically misled"

Doctor Casino, Friday, 18 May 2012 14:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh, sure, if you want to act like trusting authority is a good norm

mh, Friday, 18 May 2012 14:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

There are always assholes in power and they are probably from a generation. Everybody will get their chance!

He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 18 May 2012 15:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

My theory of boomer resentment is that the children of boomers hate the boomers because the boomers raised them with expectations of a boomer life -- just do what you love and somehow magically make a great living doing it. It's the crushing disappointment that led to the bitterness.

this guy's a gangsta? his real name's mittens. (Hurting 2), Friday, 18 May 2012 15:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

my dad somehow has the anxious "most work hard at your job, must always have a job, must keep shit together" mentality despite being a boomer. I don't know that this necessarily served me well, since... well, that mentality works well in 2012 but I think I actually was taught an even more paranoid mentality than our time requires?

mh, Friday, 18 May 2012 15:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.aarp.org/work/retirement-planning/info-02-2011/many_boomers_report_no_savings_at_all.html

well, enjoy paying for their retirement:

"A poll released Wednesday found that a whopping 25 percent of people ages 46 to 64 say they have no retirement savings — and 26 percent have no personal savings."

this guy's a gangsta? his real name's mittens. (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 03:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

and being continually underemployed b/c the boomers are too broke to retire.

Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 04:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

wtff

mh, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 14:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

The time is ripe for Generation Banaka

― Banaka™ (banaka), Wednesday, May 2, 2012 3:40 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

your native bacon (mh), Friday, 10 August 2012 14:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

so u say u want banakalution / well, you know, we all want to be uploaded into the singularity

Mordy, Friday, 10 August 2012 14:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

fulled formed adult banaka units

your native bacon (mh), Friday, 10 August 2012 14:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

boomers.

coffin on the dancefloor (boy_slayer), Friday, 18 January 2013 00:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

FXX is just asking for lols

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 18 January 2013 00:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

i guess my children will be watching FXXX some day

Mordy, Friday, 18 January 2013 00:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

and their web channel FXXX YOU

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 18 January 2013 00:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

the relatable, eternally depressing existence of the aged

j., Friday, 18 January 2013 01:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

http://www.salon.com/2013/02/16/millennials_will_save_us/

Mordy, Saturday, 16 February 2013 22:55 (1 year ago) Permalink


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