luckily i got full-time BET in time to see killer mike rap about the stickers
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 05:03 (4 years ago) Permalink
I don't think I even knew what "underground rap" was until freshman year of college.
i don't think i knew what it was until they invented it, when i was about 25
― Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 05:39 (4 years ago) Permalink
Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Pavement and Massive Attack when I was 13. Does that give me cool points or does it reduces them?
― Moka, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 06:14 (4 years ago) Permalink
i think you know the answer to that question
― Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 06:43 (4 years ago) Permalink
At 12, Throwing Muses and Pixies, courtesy of an older cousin deeply into 4AD (this was mid-90s Norway). Christmas Eve, 1996, 10pm, "Debaser". Fuck me, what an eye-opener that was.
Then alt-rock extravaganza all through my teenge years. Pumpkins, Jane's, assorted grunge (stuck to first generation, mostly, thank god), Weezer etc.
― Mule, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 08:34 (4 years ago) Permalink
I definitely think I was cooler than most people my age at the time who were listening to Spice Girls, Guns N Roses and Metallica but judging by ILM's standards I don't know.
― Moka, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 08:35 (4 years ago) Permalink
Pavement's pretty cool.. I didn't get them until way later.
― Mule, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 08:37 (4 years ago) Permalink
Fifteen for me is 1994, so anything that was on the pop stations of that time, mostly embarrassing stuff like Ace of Base, The Cranberries, Enigma (LOL), U2, REM, etc.
― musicfanatic, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:26 (4 years ago) Permalink
I turned fifteen in 92. Things I remember listening to include:
NirvanaPublic EnemyNed's Atomic Dusbin (God Fodder was the first CD I ever bought.)Beastie BoysIce-T - O.G.Black SheepRed Hot Chili PeppersLemonheadsMatthew Sweet - GirlfriendINXSU2 - Achtung Baby
Obviously not exceptionally cool or anything, but I still like most of this stuff.
I think it was the next year that I started getting into indie rock, etc.
― deploying a sewer otter unit (askance johnson), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:42 (4 years ago) Permalink
1983 - Mill Valley, CA
The Smiths, The English Beat, Simple Minds, Joy Division, Bauhaus, The Cure, Adam Ant
I had switched over from KRQR, an AOR format like the ones I had grown up in the Sierras to KQAK, 'The Quake' 'rock of the 80's' format, essentially leaving behind 60's and 70's classic rock for post-punk and new wave, to some extent impelled by MTV and by the New Wave girls in high school who I lusted after. A friend of mine came back from England w/The Smiths first album which he made a cassette of for me just before I left that summer to tour around Britain on a BritRail pass. That album seemed more moving than any of the pop we were listening to and even more dangerous than any of the gothy poses out there.
― L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:05 (4 years ago) Permalink
1998/1999 - by this point I thought I was really too cool for school - Air, Bad Religion, Belle & Sebastian, Beck, Daft Punk, Fugazi, Imperial Teen, Komeda, Lush, Luna, Moby, Quasi, Radiohead, Sebadoh, Stereolab, Sunny Day Real Estate, Tool, Weezer, Yo La Tengo
― skip, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:10 (4 years ago) Permalink
Turned 15 in july 1985. That was the combustion year for me-- I didn't stop liking synth pop (saw Howard Jones at the St. Paul Civic Center touring Dream Into Action!) but SST stuff and Sire Records art-haircut stuff teamed up to overhaul my world. Plus Robyn Hitchcock and Foetus. The influence of Greg at Rockhead Records & Tapes on Wabasha in downtown St. Paul (who looked exactly like John Waite) is all over my 1985 shift.
It was also the year I was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis, the year I started reading indie comix and the first time a girl I liked liked me back (I blew the chance ;_;). So all in all, super pivotal on every level. I think this would have roughly been my top 10:
Husker Du - New Day RisingMinutemen - Double Nickels on the DimeMeat Puppets - Up On The SunBlack Flag - My WarNew Order - Power, Corruption and LiesFoetus - HoleThe Fall - Wonderful And Frightening World OfThomas Dolby - The Flat EarthEcho & The Bunnymen - PorcupineRobyn Hitchcock - Fegmania
― bit.ly sno cone maker (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:31 (4 years ago) Permalink
It's safe to say that every single person on this thread was a cooler 15-year-old than I was, lol.
― musicfanatic, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:31 (4 years ago) Permalink
the best concert i saw when i was 15 was THE HORDE FESTIVAL, but at least it was the semi-cool year that they had Neil Young, Spiritualized, Soul Coughing, Morphine, Primus, Beck, etc.
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
I just realized that the first show I ever saw was when I was fifteen -- Helmet / Faith No More at the Roseland Ballroom in NYC.
― deploying a sewer otter unit (askance johnson), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:50 (4 years ago) Permalink
Apparently I liked New Order (see shirt), Depeche Mode (see wall), and The Replacements (see below) I liked lots of other stuff too, but these pictures were the funnier than a list of bands I liked.
― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:55 (4 years ago) Permalink
actually i might have been aaaaalmost 16 there -- it was the summer before i turned 16, so 1991
I am in my 1985 yearbook with a New Order shirt and porcupine hair
― bit.ly sno cone maker (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:59 (4 years ago) Permalink
that was my attic bedroom. i loved it so much! it was like having an apartment all to myself. i had a record player, a cassette player, a radio, tons of magazines, scissors, tape, and sometimes my friends would come over and write all over the walls. good times. some of the writing is still there.
― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:02 (4 years ago) Permalink
lol, jon lewis' list = exactly what i was listening to in 1985, when i was 18. plus the butthole surfers, big black, homestead's speed trials comp, replacements, gun club, cramps, etc. definitely wasn't into that kind of stuff when i was 15, though. at 15, i was much closer to musicfanatic (though 12 years prior).
― Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:04 (4 years ago) Permalink
lol <3 those lechera pix
― Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:05 (4 years ago) Permalink
I wrote all over my damn bedroom walls too, in sharpie. Drew the bird from the cover of Meat Puppets' Out My Way.
― bit.ly sno cone maker (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:38 (4 years ago) Permalink
hoping someone will step in here and say "All I did when I was fifteen was listen to Rene & Angela records."
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:44 (4 years ago) Permalink
i had small discreet shrine to marty willson-piper near my vanity mirror -- what do i win?
― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:45 (4 years ago) Permalink
― dow, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:07 (4 years ago) Permalink
― dow, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:19 (4 years ago) Permalink
dow, if you were 15 when the above hits were new, then I must relinquish to you my sobriquet as "ilx's oldest known non-lurker". I'd count that as a huge relief.
― Aimless, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 23:12 (4 years ago) Permalink
XTCGreen (the Chicago pop-punk-soul band, not the Scritti Politti singer)James Brownthe ReplacementsHusker DuElvis CostelloMidnight OilPrincethe WhoPink Floyd
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 23:29 (4 years ago) Permalink
Stereotypes of a high school sophomore misunderstood, but it's still all good:
Sleater-Kinney - Dig Me OutSelby Tigers - Year of the TigersPavement - Brighten The CornersRadiohead - OK ComputerPixies - DoolittleX - Under The Big Black SunStereolab - Emperor Tomato KetchupBjork - HomogenicCibo Mato - Viva! La WomanPublic Enemy - It Takes a Nation...Tricky - Pre-Millenium TensionPortishead - PortisheadAtari Teenage Riot - Burn, Berlin, Burn
― d3rs, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 08:00 (4 years ago) Permalink
When I was 14/15, my friends and I would go to the record shop nearly every day and buy up cut-out cassette singles for 25p each. Most of them were awful, but I discovered dEUS through that, and a couple of other neat things.
― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 09:27 (4 years ago) Permalink
No worries, I was listening to Ace of Base and Enigma too. And I still like them today.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 09:43 (4 years ago) Permalink
hahaha when I was 18, I made a bunch of my friends lie on the floor of my parents' darkened family room and meditate while blasting the first Enigma album
I don't know what is more amazing, the fact that I suggested this or the fact that THEY DID IT
― I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:08 (4 years ago) Permalink
15 was also just a year or two before everything exploded for me, in terms of music. Having a car and having friends who brought back IT'LL END IN TEARS from the import bins, after a steady diet of LA punk and rock, was a revelation. Then there was all those whack jobs I met when I went off to college.
I do think that 15was the year that 91X, the San Diego rock station (you'd call it classic rock now) went from their old format to new wave/college ratio/alternative before it was alternative. I kept listening, but mostly when the batteries in the Walkman died.
― Matt M., Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:24 (4 years ago) Permalink
Turned 15 in March 1996, was mostly listening to NME-friendly dance music (Underworld, Prodigy, Chemical Brothers, Leftfield), Epitaph Records skatepunk (NoFX, Bad Religion, Pennywise, Rancid) and the Cardiacs. Also still liked some of the britpop/indie I'd been into earlier (I got Suede's Coming Up that year). Wish I still had my homework planner covered in band logos...
― Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:34 (4 years ago) Permalink
Well, 15/16 was arguably my apex of cool a music listener, but my nadir of cool as a socially functional human being.
― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:00 (4 years ago) Permalink
it's funny, but i don't think it really occurred to me that music could be "cool", that it could have social and fashion significance, until i was 16 or 17. i mean, i was peripherally aware that others viewed music as cool or uncool, but didn't really get where they were coming from, figured that this sort of judgement was basically the same as simply liking billy joel or not.
i didn't start listening to stuff that i personally thought of as cooler than other music until i was 18 or so. i guess that's the year i became a snob, went along w getting seriously into the proto-indie "underground rock" that jon lewis mentioned above. it's taken me along time to shake the teenage idea that some sounds, audiences, aesthetics and ways of listening are better than others by virtue of their coolness. still rooting out traces (e.g., contempt for bro-rock a la puddle of mudd, jam bands, etc)
― Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:23 (4 years ago) Permalink
Beyond kneejerk class/status etc, coolness can be a good thing, if it involves perspective, not just mindlessly melding w the artiste's self-seriousness etc--not that we don't all need someone we can feed on, comfort-wise for inst
― dow, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 17:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah, i'm cool w all that. it's the kneejerk/class status thing i was talking about. got really sucked into that for a while. honestly, i think it's in my nature to divide up the world that way, but i'm trying to me a bit more open-minded these days.
― Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 17:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
The Fall, the Slits, the Clash, Wire, the Banshees and the Buzzcocks were biggies, as was anything on Rough Trade. Two-Tone. Burgeoning taste in reggae, which was quite tough to find in suburban America, but Linton Kwesi Johnson was a big fave. At 15 or 16, I remember my mother asking what I wanted for Christmas, and I gave her a list of records - from which she bought Wire's "Pink Flag," the Fall's "Early Fall" and the Pop Group's "How Much Longer Do We Tolerate Mass Murder?" albums. I still smile thinking about it, and the pain of waiting to play these on the stereo, which couldn't be done until my grandparents had left! Thanks, mom. Beyond that, nothing too embarrassing, remarkably, though I quite liked a lot of things that are forgotten / dismissed today - the Yachts' "Box 202," Chelsea's "Urban Kids," Henry Badowski's "Baby Sign Here With Me" and many others . . . as well as stuff like the debut Lene Lovich album, which is still pretty fine, but probably too silly to be revived in any way nowadays.
Ages 13 through 16 or so were lonely and odd . . . you can't imagine how much crap you'd get just walking down the street being into "punk rock" at this time, and I didn't even look or dress in punk-style! (I still love that the dismissive remark I'd always get from jocks riding by in a care was always "Devo sucks!" - apparently the sole weirdo-music frame of reference amongst Neanderthals.) In fact, pre-internet suburbia at that time offered few ways to learn much about punk at all - there weren't really any books about it when I got into music, and imported copies of the NME or whatever cost as much as a 7", so guess what I'd buy! Consequently, the idea I had of punk - shared by one other guy, and later two "much older" guys (one year older) - was largely self-invented, and involved things like making attaching resistors and funny looking but tiny electrical parts from Radio Shack to odd parts of our clothes, doing any drug we could find at any time and quite a lot of what today would be considered much more dada or situationist than recognizably punk. By the time I was a senior in high school, "new wave" had become just mainstream enough so that it appealed to the officially "cool" kids, and quite suddenly I was very popular and even looked up to by those who avoided me like the plague just two years earlier.
The early days of punk were great - so many concepts that are common today just didn't exist then - the idea of anything "retro," for instance. Records that weren't big sellers stayed in print for about 18 months and then you never saw them again. A lot of crucial stuff, like the Velvet Underground, was unknown to young music fans with good taste, because their best records had been out of print forever. Being into punk was a heavy choice; more or less one's musical choice was either REO Speedwagon, Styx, Kansas and Foreigner and the dregs of disco or stuff that was *genuinely* upsetting to people. I remember, around 1982, that there were suddenly records that offered kind of a middle path - you didn't have to make that crucial decision to avoid Eddie Money in favor of things that would get you beat up . . . you could listen to Soft Cell or the English Beat or something like that instead.
― crustaceanrebel, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:09 (4 years ago) Permalink
later two "much older" guys (one year older)
That should read ". . . later two "much older" girls (both one year older) . . . "
― crustaceanrebel, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:10 (4 years ago) Permalink
Reggae was extremely tough to find a long time ago, a crime considering how some American kids followed the British press! I used to like to read articles about reggae.
New wave and r & b.
― โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Bulgarian Tourist Chamber (Mount Cleaners), Thursday, 3 May 2012 12:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
Don't remember xpost "retro" til maybe late-ish 70s, a fashion thing, re bomber jackets etc--xgau defined it as "nostalgia with a will to power." When was it first applied to music? Anyway, although that was when I finally bought The Velvet Underground & Nico and The Who Sings My Generation--a punk deed, in my mind--after recently buying Nuggets, and in the wake of Patti Smith x Lenny Kaye distilling 60s into their own minimalist art-punk; ditto New York Dolls, folding "Pills," "Stranded In The Jungle" and "Don't You Start Me Talkin'" with their glam-punk originals. I bought new copies of those VU and Who LPs, but yeah, lots of other stuff now taken for granted was hard as hell to find until CDs took off. Sorry bout the boomer bait, but can't resist one more (it wasn't all Anglophilia)
― dow, Thursday, 3 May 2012 16:55 (4 years ago) Permalink