The most enjoyable of these 50 worst films of all time (through 1976)

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I've been patiently awaiting critical reevaluation of The Last Movie. It's been a long while since I saw it, but I thought it was pretty decent and, at the very least, intersting.

Robot Monster is actually pretty enjoyable, I find.

O Aquaman (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 04:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

20. Ivan the Terrible, Part 1 (1944)
26. Last Year at Marienbad (1961)
28. Myra Breckinridge (1970)
45. 3 on a Couch (1966)
49. Valley of the Dolls (1967)

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 04:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

Medved in Helen Lovejoy hysterics is the best.

I serve at the pleasure of Dr. Dre and a team of scientists at the Sorb (R Baez), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 04:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

Robot Monster is indeed nifty.

I serve at the pleasure of Dr. Dre and a team of scientists at the Sorb (R Baez), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 04:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

26. Last Year at Marienbad (1961)

the best ever

Mordy, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 04:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

Robot Monster all the way. Can Ro-Man and Hu-man ever love?

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 04:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

Robot Monster is a soporific to many I've made watch it. It is pretty boring and slow, but the highs make up for it. Like, best costume design alone.

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 04:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think Peckinpah is overrated, but i'll stan for Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia. why the fuck Medved considers it a bad film is beyond me.

some of these seem to be axe-grinding by Medved (lol Eisenstein was a commie! valley of the dolls is campy! last year in marienbad is french!)

Nu Metal is the best music there is, the rest is pussy shit. (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 04:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

xps you of all people should be able to differentiate between "best" and "most enjoyable"

Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 04:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

The enjoyment I have for Robot Monster is DEEP. DEEP AND TRUE.

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 04:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 04:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

(KJB I mean not Mordy)

Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 04:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

xps you of all people should be able to differentiate between "best" and "most enjoyable"

most enjoyable would be santa claus conquers the martians ... only xmas film that's more enjoyable is santa and the ice cream bunny.

Nu Metal is the best music there is, the rest is pussy shit. (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 04:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

The Goldwyn Follies looks like it'd be right up my alley. Is it worth watching?

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 04:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

No matter how many times I see Ro-Man, he's always a revelation.

"You look like a pooped-out pinwheel."

I serve at the pleasure of Dr. Dre and a team of Sorbonne scientists. (R Baez), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 04:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

Brain of Morbius was my faves old Dr Who plot because of the Ro-Man-esque costumnery

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 04:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

buzza, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 05:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

'valley of the dolls' is awesome.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 06:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

I don't remember a space monkey in Zabriskie Point!

nickn, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 06:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

IIRC 'the story of mankind' is actually the last marx brothers movie, except that none of them ever appear in the same scene.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 06:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

'Airport 1975' rocks.

'scuse me, while I Rim the Sky... (snoball), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 07:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

Also I'm pretty sure from reading some of his books that half of Michael Medved's picks are because he just hates fun.

'scuse me, while I Rim the Sky... (snoball), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 07:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

The Omen??? what in the name..

piscesx, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 07:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

Have definitely seen these ones, pretty much all great apart from maybe Myra Breckinridge. Alfredo Garcia and Marienbad would probably be in a list of my all-time top 100 films, were such a list to be made. Michael Medved is a tit.

2. Airport 1975 (1974)
4. The Ambushers (1967)
9. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia (1974)
11. The Conqueror (1956)
13. Dick Tracy vs. Cueball (1946)
15. Eegah (1962)
16. Godzilla vs. Hedorah (aka Godzilla vs. the Smog Monster) (1971)
18. The Horror of Party Beach (1964)
20. Ivan the Terrible, Part 1 (1944)
21. Jamaica Inn (1939)
25. The Last Movie (1971)
26. Last Year at Marienbad (1961)
28. Myra Breckinridge (1970)
31. The Omen (1976)
35. Robot Monster (1953)
36. Santa Claus Conquers the Martians (1964)
43. The Terror of Tiny Town (1938)
49. Valley of the Dolls (1967)
50. Zabriskie Point (1970)

O00O0O00O (Matt #2), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 08:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

Ha I did a similar list in the other thread with some different films on it, my memory is clearly failing fast.

O00O0O00O (Matt #2), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 08:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

no american beauty no credibility

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 10:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

Book predates that film

Mark G, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 10:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

phew

diafiyhm (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 10:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://minimatefactory.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/morbius01.jpg

this seems like it should unleash a series of unfunny old-school dr-who centric morbius zings

thomp, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 10:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh oops. scroll up

thomp, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 10:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

Loved this book so much when it came out--the whole aesthetic has been so fully absorbed into just about everything on the internet, I'm guessing a lot of the humour seems obvious now. (I believe it was primarily written by Harry Medved, with just an authorial "with" attached to his cousin and some other guy.) A quick count says I've seen nine of them. No vote, but by the time I did get around to seeing Marienbad and Alfredo Garcia, it was difficult for me, no matter what their virtues, not to be especially attuned to their more ludicrous aspects thanks to Medved's book.

clemenza, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 11:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

Michael Medved's name isn't even found on the original cover:

clemenza, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

He thought he would be "finished in Hollywood" if he was 'attached' to the book.

Then the book was a hit and people enjoyed groaning about the bad movies they were in / had to make, etc.

So begat:

Mark G, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

^^^ have a copy of this somewhere

'scuse me, while I Rim the Sky... (snoball), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

Didn't know that...I wonder if it occured to him, just before he went public as a right-wing creep, that that might hurt his Hollywood standing too.

clemenza, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp There's a chapter called 'The Most Unerotic Concept In Movies', including the films Chatterbox, Percy, and some movie about Jesus being gay.

'scuse me, while I Rim the Sky... (snoball), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh and many of the movies from "The Fifty Worst Films Of All Time" appear in "The Golden Turkey Awards", so it's a bit of a rip-off.

'scuse me, while I Rim the Sky... (snoball), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

... I think that by then he wasn't 'getting ahead' in hollywood and thought, "hey, go for it"

Mark G, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

he's a complete arsehole this guy; big time creationist and all that.

i did love the books as a kid, there was a Golden Turkey sequel too

piscesx, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

Boy Did I Get Me a Wrong Number! is a brilliant title.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh and many of the movies from "The Fifty Worst Films Of All Time" appear in "The Golden Turkey Awards", so it's a bit of a rip-off.

Not true in the least. They discuss scads more films (even a fake one) which more than justifies the purchase. Plus the several repeats are discussed in a different context.

J. Hoberman's classic "Bad Movies" essay from the same time was the smart version of all this, though.

Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

Is that one online somewhere? I think I've read it, but I'm not sure.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

most enjoyable would be santa claus conquers the martians ... only xmas film that's more enjoyable is santa and the ice cream bunny.

― Nu Metal is the best music there is, the rest is pussy shit. (Eisbaer), Tuesday, May 1, 2012 5:36 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Aaaaaargh, Santa Claus & the Ice Cream Bunny is horrible!

emil.y, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

Eric, I have a pdf. What's your email again?

Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

I started with "Golden Turkey awards", got the "worst" about a year later. Then the "Vol2" came out, it was not as good but it was OK.

When MMed started becoming 'famous' more latterly, I was like that Father Ted sketch "Oh, you've decided to be a right wing aresnhl now, hows that goin for yez?"

.. because there wasn't really that much 'controversy' in his angles on the movies he mentioned (hon excep: the 'gay' jesus film, don't recall what he said there)

The main thing was
1) Wondering which was the 'bogus' film, I do know which one it is now
2) His extensive Ed Wood write-up, brilliant for the most part, except that he obviously had not seen some of them and was writing up someone else's stuff. Main clue was Bela Lugosi mis-pronouncing a line as "Don't worry, he's as harmless as kitchen" instead of "a kitten" and refusing to retake it so they had to go with it. Except that actually in the film there is no such mispronounciation and it is quite clearly "a kitten".

Mark G, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

my g-mail address is ephender

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

Much appreciated!

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

This list is better than 50 films chosen at random would be.

It seems there's a bias against films that are conceptually unusual: Ivan the Terrible, The Last Movie, Zabriskie Point, etc.

Josefa, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

'valley of the dolls' is awesome.

^^^ this. Totally enjoyable.

My 3-year-old saw this page on the computer this morning, and now he wants a Robot Monster costume.

Advanced Uncle Meat recovery system (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

Your 3-year-old OTM

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

As he so often is! It WOULD be a rockin' costume, esp with accompanying bubble machine.

Advanced Uncle Meat recovery system (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

Aaaaaargh, Santa Claus & the Ice Cream Bunny is horrible!

― emil.y, Tuesday, May 1, 2012 9:54 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if it wasn't so bad, it wouldn't be so good!

Nu Metal is the best music there is, the rest is pussy shit. (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 21:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

here are michael medved's 10 favorite films FWIW:

“Mr. Smith Goes to Washington” (1939).
“A Tree Grows in Brooklyn” (1945).
“The Wild Strawberries” (1957, Swedish).
“The Bicycle Thief” (1948, Italian).
“E.T.” (1982).
“The Wizard of Oz” (1939).
“Casablanca” (1941).
“Rules of the Game” (1939, French).
“Schindler’s List” (1993).
“It’s a Wonderful Life” (1946).

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 23:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia is fantastic, voted for that

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 23:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

obv Medved was full-on dumbass long before he became a righty pundit.

I found this book in the town library in the late '70s and was skeptical of it even before I saw any of the films. Still have never caught The Conqueror tho.

Che! is a riot tho, at least when Palance is onscreen as Fidel.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

but ... but ... but that hagen girl starred Saint Ronald Reagan!!

Nu Metal is the best music there is, the rest is pussy shit. (Eisbaer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 11:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 6 May 2012 00:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 7 May 2012 00:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

#1 and #2 would make a little more sense as the "best" of these 50, but I think #3, #4 and #5 are probably arguably more "enjoyable."

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 7 May 2012 01:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

Robot Monster is wonderful!

polyphonic, Monday, 7 May 2012 01:32 (1 year ago) Permalink


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