STEVE ALBINI

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l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 30 April 2012 22:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

new Screaming Females record sounds good.

UnderControl, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

Regarding what Albini is up to at the moment, I've heard he's either working on or has just finished working on a solo record by Hugh Cornwell (ex-Stranglers), called 'Totem & Taboo'.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

amazing piece there, thanks M@tt.

my mother-in-law just got diagnosed with massive, incompetently (un-) diagnosed terminal cancer and I just forwarded that to my wife, who took an emergency redeye flight last night to see her before she dies.

sleeve, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

sorry to hear that sleeve. my stepdad died a couple years back, similar causes & circumstances.

and yeah, thanks for posting the piece, m@tt. very much wanna hear teeth.

Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

who is putting the teeth record out? is it available already?

Bad Company's Drummer's Daughter (stevie), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 10:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

It is being self-released, the family I believe is handling the physical distro, otherwise you can download it from Bandcamp
The Strain

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

thanks chris!

Bad Company's Drummer's Daughter (stevie), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

thanks for that info! i want to get this.

but lol @ the bassist of the fucking Cribs of all bands getting quoted on there:

"Super raw, honest, not being done for commercial gain etc. Very influenced by Melvins, Shellac, Bleach/pre-Dave-era Nirvana, maybe even a bit Jesus Lizard at times." - Gary Jarman (bassist, The Cribs) in an email to rock critic Everett True

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

wow that was an interesting read thanks for posting

Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

that link is going to be such a time sink today...

koogs, Thursday, 10 May 2012 09:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

He comes across as such a decent guy. It's fascinating, and interestign that he seems quite keen to do this kidn of thing - there was the poker forum thing a few years ago, too, which was equally funny and informative.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 10 May 2012 09:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

Interesting read, thanks for the link markers.

Pain in the ass to have to click a fucking thousand "expand" links to read one page though.

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Thursday, 10 May 2012 10:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah..

About 4 'expands' down, there's a link to a much nicer "questions and answer" table format, however this has not been updated that recently, and when you click back, it takes you to the initial unexpanded version.

Mark G, Thursday, 10 May 2012 10:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

People really want to get the guy to list his favourite records, huh! I seem to remember the poker thread had a lot of the same quizzing going on.

Interesting, too, that "Steve's opinion on ____" is something that seems to have a great deal of weight for many people... usually when I have a conversation with Nina Nastasia or The Breeders or PJ Harvey there's a point where somebody says "Albini gave this record to John Peel" or "this was Albini's favourite record" or "Albini said she eats nothing but potatoes".

The interesting thing afaic is his repeated insistence to "make music for yourself, not for others" which is some strange dogma that I can't comprehend

poxen, Thursday, 10 May 2012 12:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

Whoops, I meant to say: "another thing that is interesting is:"

poxen, Thursday, 10 May 2012 12:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think it's more like "don't get bogged down worrying about what other people will think" which makes more sense to me.

His Big Black tour diary, linked on that reddit page, is a bit, um, o_O

Keith pissed on my chips (onimo), Thursday, 10 May 2012 13:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

YEAH yeah you're right. I read it wrong. It did seem pretty anti-social.

poxen, Thursday, 10 May 2012 13:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp I kind of love that tour diary for the light that it shines on stuff happening thousands of miles away from me when I was seven years old, but at this point it's kind of perfect that ppl are reading it from a link on Reddit

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 10 May 2012 13:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

His comment abour reading/playing scrabble while doing takes was pretty interesting. On the handful of recorsing experiences I've had, esp during the mixing process, yr ears def get fried intensely listening to play backs over and over.

I recorded with Steve recently and he was reading Peter Morris's "A Game of Inches", an inside baseball history. And I can attest that he always noticed if someone flubbed a part or whatever.

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Albini said she eats nothing but potatoes"
stuff like this is pretty interesting! (to me, anyway) i liked his description of KK Null's natto feast. ian mackaye seems really touchy when people ask about his eating habits, though.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

i hadn't see him express regret about the pixies comments before

Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

he was sort of apologetic in a recent tape op interview too. albini, so mellow.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

what's weird is that i always thought he was fucking around in the first place. like meaningless shit talk for laughs, you know? the fact that he describes it now as mean-spirited sincerity, rather than straight-up trolling, is a bit disappointing.

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

I always figured he was serious, pixies don't seem like his thing

Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah, i guess not. he did good work for them, though, and they helped put one another on the map.

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah i dunno, that album sounds great but i expect the pixies were going places either way and i think steve would have done just fine either way....also shit is like almost 30 years ago, it must be weird to be held to all these things you said that long ago

sometimes ILXor & my little dog loutallica partner chr1s b just got back from recording w/steve and sounds like it was the best experience ever, basically

Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

sweet!
re; the pixies, whenever i read interviews with him now, it seems like it's beside the point for him whether he likes the bands he's recording or not.
also, he's got a long-running working relationship w/ kim deal it seems, they must like each other personally.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

It was! He even said something nice about our band in the Reddit! Ha!

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

It was not better then making "Little Dog" fwiw, that experience was way more honest

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

read him say somewhere (believe it was in the 33 1/3 Spiderland book) that he's regretful about some of his behavior in the early recording days. mentioned Surfer Rosa and Tweez as examples of albums he kind of arrogantly imposed his "vision" upon instead of giving the band what they wanted. also, he was doing pranky/creepy things like mic'ing break room conversations.

circa1916, Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp as good as albini is, i don't think he's ever created a whole new planetary system w/ one of his recordings.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

It was not better then making "Little Dog" fwiw, that experience was way more honest

― chr1sb3singer, Thursday, May 10, 2012 1:08 PM (53 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i mean, EA is a nice studio, but he can't duplicate my signature "Um Jammer Lammy promotional Fernandez travel guitar plugged direct into outdated ProTools" guitar sound

Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

thanks for that link markers, I'm loving this

I learned to make records by being in punk rock bands, and those bands weren't interested in anybody else's opinion on their music, and actively resisted anybody trying to press the point. I started out making records that way and just carried on.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

and actively resisted anybody trying to press the point

press what point...they don't like punk or noisy stuff, so what

what exactly is there to resist, I wonder

Master of Treacle, Sunday, 13 May 2012 04:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

resist engineers making bad brains sound like foghat, which apparently was going on a lot at the time.
(this is apparently still going on)

Philip Nunez, Sunday, 13 May 2012 06:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

i can't imagine steve really respecting anyone who didn't have a chip on their shoulder

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Sunday, 13 May 2012 06:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think one reason Albini has mellowed is that at just about 50 he's made it over the sell-out hump. That is, he's secure enough and successful enough that at the stage many of his peers must be scrambling to support the second half of their careers/lives, he doesn't need to hustle. He's made it this far without doing anything stupid, he's in a committed pseudo-marriage, he's got a good business, a good reputation, and he's done it all (cue the music) his way. I'd be pretty sanguine, too.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 13 May 2012 12:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

surfer rosa & tweez, albums that would not be as good as they are if albini hadn't imposed his vision on them - I would think that this might cause him to question the aesthetic he arrived at ("hands off") tbh

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 13 May 2012 12:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

I dunno, as a sort of aesthete I can imagine him finding flaws in things that "work" because they deviate from his standard.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 13 May 2012 12:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

Josh, can you elucidate on his 'pseudo' marriage? Intrigued.

Dick Move's Wardrobe (MaresNest), Sunday, 13 May 2012 13:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh, nothing special. He's just been in a committed, very long term relationship with someone who he is not married to. But she is practically his wife, common-law stylee.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 13 May 2012 13:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

But what it boils down to is I actually think marriage matters. I actually think being married to somebody is important. And doing it out of some sense of momentum or nonchalant sort of obligation seems silly to me. It's the sort of thing that you should undertake quite seriously. And I don't think it's the hallmark of a relationship that it's "marriage-worthy." I think relationships can exist inside or outside of marriage, and I feel like the marriage can -- the wedding can occur at any point in a marriage as far as I'm concerned, you know? And if you gave people the option, everybody would ask for one of those really good fifty-year marriages. That's the kind of marriage everybody wants; they want one of them grow-old-together marriages. But you can't order 'em like that. You get a marriage and then you wake up fifty years later and realize you got one of the good ones. And I just see that as a continuous process, and I don't see any real rush to have a ceremony. I feel like the ceremony can happen anywhere along the line.

fit and working again, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

From interview with Mark Prindle.

fit and working again, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

(Quite sure they're married since that interview.)

caro's johnson (Eazy), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

2009, I guess:

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 13 May 2012 17:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

The interesting thing afaic is his repeated insistence to "make music for yourself, not for others" which is some strange dogma that I can't comprehend

This is 100% true gospel dogma whatever you want to call it. You HAVE to make music for yourself. I mean it's kind of a selfish thing and kind of an ego trip but so is getting in front of a group of people and saying "Stand right there and watch me make these sounds for an hour!" At the end of the day, the only audience you have is you. Your popularity will go in waves, there will be shows where you are playing and nobody gives a shit, or nobody shows up, and you have to be able to deal with it. And if you are not making music for yourself then at that moment you will feel a psychic shock of worthlessness and you may as well just be working in an office, at least you'll be making some decent money.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 13 May 2012 17:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

Super looking forward to those interviews, btw! Thanks for the link.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 13 May 2012 17:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

adam otm, all you can really do is trust your gut and hope a few other people have somewhat similar guts

some dude, Sunday, 13 May 2012 17:30 (1 year ago) Permalink


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