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frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

does the 'vol 3' link on the ADC site still go to vol 2? i had to dl it off the link itt.

some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

nah i got an email for vol 3

frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

corny maybe, but at least somewhat memorable

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link

as far as overt prince rips go i think "party life" is pretty good -- something about the cadence of his singing strikes me as very accurate but not in an obvious way

frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link

Not ready to definitively rate or rank these yet. Everything this dude makes has a way of growing on me over time (which is a pretty cool feat given how short and direct so many of his songs are)

Evan R, Monday, 30 April 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

i think in general i'm actually more bullish on vol 3 than the rest of y'all, the more i listen to it. def nothing that tops the titanic tracks on the other 2 vols but i think it's a nice bow on top if you listen to all three straight thru -- a bit of a stylistic pivot but not obviously so... and still idiosyncratic in the little ways that he his. and i guess i think "candles in the sun, blowin in the wind" is being a bit underrated. certainly hamhanded as far as its politics go but i think it's a pretty good tune.

frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i like that one a lot

some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

Thematically and sonically it's of a piece with the call to arms aimed at misfits and outcasts in "...All."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

altho i do deduce a few points for pronouncing "other" like "uhva" as if he was british

frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

"adorn" is my most-listened to non-dawn richard (who is in her own league, obv) track this year by more than twice over

hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

me too probably. i like most of the other stuff just fine but imo most of "all i want is you" > most of ADC

dharunravir (k3vin k.), Monday, 30 April 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link

...alll >>>>>>>>> adorn >>> arch and point

dayo, Monday, 30 April 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link

there's always that bit in 'all' with him going "tee-tee tell em how to elevate" where it totally breaks the blippy springsteen vibe picturing him misreading his iphone lyrics

r|t|c, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 10:46 (eleven years ago) link

i mean it kinda works actually but still

r|t|c, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 10:46 (eleven years ago) link

I know it's a horrific epidemic, but "babies on crack" will never not be unintentionally funny. Any message track that wants to be taken seriously needs to recognize that

Evan R, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

that opening line's resonance with "Be Thankful for What You Got" really throws me off every time. I assume it's intentional, but him singing "babies on crack" instead of "sunroof top" makes that phrase stick out even more.

rob, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

this is from evan's ADC review

"arguably the most engaging singles run of any R&B album since Usher’s Confessions."

interesting position imo -- how do we feel about it? i may be inclined to agree w/ it, but that's a long time

frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link

i agree -- there are probably a couple albums with 3 hits as strong as All/Sure/Quickie, but might be cluttered up with a couple duds too

some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

fav post-Confessions R&B singles campaigns: first Ne-Yo album, B'Day, Double Up, first 2 Keyshia Cole albums, BLACKsummers'night, first The-Dream album, first two John Legend albums, Emancipation of Mimi, second Ciara album

some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link

I was going to say Ne-Yo through Year of the Gentleman, Ciara, and Maxwell myself.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link

but none of these guys has excited me like Miguel; I have no idea what shit this guy's gonna do next.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

I should also point out that I don't particularly care for the Confessions period of Usher's career.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link

yeah 'love/hate', 'goodies' and 'emanicpation' were my first three thoughts, but i think i'd take the 'all i want is you' trio over mariah, and probably have it tied w/ ciara behind the-dream

'blacksummersnight' is an interesting pick too... i didn't think of it but "pretty wings" and "bad habits" are monsters... i like "fistful of tears" a lot but it doesn't seem on the level of those two

frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

"when you're mad is good" but it's kind of a major dip in b/w "so sick" and "sexy love" imo (last of which is my favorite late 90s max martin song that max martin never wrote in the late 90s)

frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i love the album itself more than the singles per se, was just spitballing. "Fistful of Tears" came alive for me as a single, though.

some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

haha want to hear a song called "when you're mad is good"

some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

excuse my sloppy quotations there

frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

ha

frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

i LOVE "when you're mad" and think "sexy love" is kind of eh personally

some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

man it's weird that they only released two singles off 'rappa ternt sanga', that coulda been in the running imo

frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

actually fuck i'd rate the YOTG singles over everything -- "closer" -> "miss independent" -> "mad" was the most exhilarating singles run i can remember... anytime you got in the car was like a race against time before you had to get out and maybe not hear whatever the big ne-yo song of the time was

frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

yep

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i thought about 3rd ne-yo too after i posted. love the first two but was never real into the sneezing song.

some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

"Sexy Love" taught me to love "So Sick." "Because of You" was an even better use of the same template. The only thing that killed the run imo was whatever followed up "Because of You." I can't even remember it.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

"Do You," which yes, was awful.

some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

huh interesting, sh!p. I'd gladly read a defense of BOY, a worse album than even Libra Scale.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

"Can We Chill" and "Go On Girl" were admirable non-hits, though

some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

wiki says his next album is called The R.E.D. album, which can't be right

frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link

BOY is actually the only album of his i haven't heard, at the time the singles just disappointed me too much

some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link

there was a whole thing recently about him announcing that and the game politely responding that he was okay with it

i'm kind of disappointed that he isn't running with the astoundingly bad original title: The Cracks In Mr. Perfect

some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

Crack on My B.E.D.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

if i had to do a rough ranking of best three consecutive singles off a post-confessions r&b album i'd go w/

1 year of the gentleman
2 love/hate
3 goodies
4 all i want is you
5 blacksummersnight
6 chris brown s/t
7 basic instinct
8 futuresex/love sounds
9 thr33 ringz
10 konvicted

? i'm probably forgetting something tho

frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

sorta fudging it i think cuz in some places i'm not necessarily counting the best three FIRST singles, but hey

frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

I'd thrown in Marsha Ambrosius, although I prefer her album in toto.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

oh good call

some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

lol had to throw in Basic Instinct huh smh

some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

The Miguel singles were all great tracks in their own right, but they were also really effective at introducing this new singer; each one revealed a little bit more about his act and persona. Really smart campaign.

So for me it's neck and neck between AIWISY and YOTG, with Goodies and BlackSUMMERSnight a bit behind. Those Ne-Yo singles were just so damn good; that was a singles campaign that really felt that a movement

Evan R, Friday, 4 May 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

that was a singles campaign that really felt that a movement

yes

frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Friday, 4 May 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

was that the name of a dipset compilation?

some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link


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