HBO adaptation of Game of Thrones - will this be just for nerds? (NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

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Nice to see Finchey hanging out in the Iron Islands.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 30 April 2012 13:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

dope ep, i loved the guy who promised to kill 3 for the girl

lag∞n, Monday, 30 April 2012 18:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

Really not looking forward to the possibility of Bran being overwhelmed by creepo Iron Island folks, especially if it's all down to Theon "Ian" Greyjoy.

GoT SPOILER ALERT (Gukbe), Monday, 30 April 2012 18:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

something just not right abt them iron islands

lag∞n, Monday, 30 April 2012 18:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

iron island type have serious teeth issues; no fluoride in that water. just iron and salt.

"in this super-sexy postracial age" (forksclovetofu), Monday, 30 April 2012 18:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

What is flossed may never die

I cannot host as my wife hates Walker (latebloomer), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

had no idea Bronn was in Robson and Jerome

GoT SPOILER ALERT (Gukbe), Monday, 30 April 2012 22:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

I just realised watching a s1 episode the other day that Barristan Selmy is actually Stuart's dad in original Queer as Folk!

gyac, Monday, 30 April 2012 23:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

bronn is killing it this year. love that guy.

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 30 April 2012 23:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

The three Stark brothers are Brian, Ricky and Bob.

you forgot stu stark

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Monday, 30 April 2012 23:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

is the tv show planning on featuring david lannister? easily one of the best lawyer characters in any fantasy story.

ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Monday, 30 April 2012 23:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

had no idea Bronn was in Robson and Jerome

― GoT SPOILER ALERT (Gukbe), Monday, 30 April 2012 23:52 (Yesterday) Bookmark

yeah i only saw this recently and it blew my mind! he's been great this season

r|t|c, Monday, 30 April 2012 23:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

nice to see finchy up to his old tricks as well

r|t|c, Monday, 30 April 2012 23:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't recall Theon "Ian" Grejoy being quite this whiny and pathetic in the books. Am I misremembering? I recall a twat, but not a complete twat.

Loving Stephen Dillane as Stannis. So completely humourless.

Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ian was always kind of whiny douche. He expected everyone on the Iron Islands to be kissing his ass when he came back and got all sulky and petulant when that turned out not to be the case.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

that guy has the proverbial face like a slapped ass

"in this super-sexy postracial age" (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Was pretty startled by how matter-of-factly they did the shadowbabby killshot! Kind of awesome that they didn't prep with a sense of dread at ALL.

bit.ly sno cone maker (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

I thought it was kind of OTT, like a lot of the magicky stuff so far. I guess I liked (what felt like) an elliptical, minimal, treatment by GRRM, but I guess it's kind hard to make 'elliptical' work for TV w/o just seming vague and imprecise.

fka snush (remy bean), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't recall Theon "Ian" Grejoy being quite this whiny and pathetic in the books. Am I misremembering? I recall a twat, but not a complete twat.
These things are subjective, but I did always eyeroll at him throughout his chapters.

Really loved this episode, especially Jaqen H'ghar!

xp I thought this too. was sad we missed Loras losing it though.

gyac, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

dear god what is margaery wearing?

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 05:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

I thought it was kind of OTT, like a lot of the magicky stuff so far. I guess I liked (what felt like) an elliptical, minimal, treatment by GRRM, but I guess it's kind hard to make 'elliptical' work for TV w/o just seming vague and imprecise.

IIRC there was nothing vague or imprecise about the attack on Renly; I thought that was very, very faithful to my recollection of the book.

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Thursday, 3 May 2012 05:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

pretty quick and understated, too (thought i haven't read the books)

in some ways GoT is a constant frustration, in others it's my favorite thing. definitely one of the coolest groups of strong, varied, kickass female characters i've ever seen on tv. catelyn, daenerys, arya, margaery, osha, brienne: more than half the reason i watch this show. post-escape discussion between catelyn and brienne was great, both michelle and gwendoline really delivering. and arya going head to head w tywin, "anyone can be killed", i mean damn.

jaqen's such a great new character, very curious to see how he develops

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 06:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

still think emilia clarke is rather dull as daenerys: good when she's happy, a bit bland otherwise. the part's written well, but i don't know that she's bringing much to it. gorgeous though, and that makes up for a lot.

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 06:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

i got pretty roundly beaten down on the internet when i suggested on a feminist thread that this show wasn't the most disgusting, misogynistic television ever created. they were having none of it.

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Thursday, 3 May 2012 07:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

well it is and isn't, right? it's arguably misogynist in lots of trivial ways, and the female characters are often defined according to predictably girlish/hott/maternal templates, but at the same time, it allows and celebrates strong, independent female characters like nothing else on tv that i'm aware of.

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 07:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Contenderizer totally otm itt

Clay, Thursday, 3 May 2012 07:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

I agree. And there are plenty of feminist critics out there singing its praises.

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Thursday, 3 May 2012 07:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think some people's brains can't cope with the idea that a story portraying an enormously sexist world and enormously sexist characters is not necessarily enormously sexist itself.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 3 May 2012 09:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^^ this.

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 3 May 2012 10:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

wouldnt it be fair to say though that "strong, independent females" are equally predictable (and perhaps equally trivial) in this kinda nerd stuff? like there's always always warrior queens and powerful witches and one plucky ladywarrior alongside the wenches

r|t|c, Thursday, 3 May 2012 11:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

ie putting women on an ineffable pedestal often goes hand in hand with general misgoyny

r|t|c, Thursday, 3 May 2012 11:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

This article does a good job of addressing the series's treatment of female characters (amongst a lot of other things).
http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/television/2012/05/07/120507crte_television_nussbaum

gyac, Thursday, 3 May 2012 11:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think some people's brains can't cope with the idea that a story portraying an enormously sexist world and enormously sexist characters is not necessarily enormously sexist itself.

this isn't strictly accurate; rather, it's more that it isn't intended to be an endorsement of enormous sexism (whether it succeeds in its criticism is really up to the viewer reaction)

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

The books are more successful at dealing with the topic of misogyny than the tv show, which trips itself up by adding in unnecessary sex scenes that only seem to be included to bump up ratings and get us though slow exposition.

Moodles, Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

A friend told me that every sex scene in the show was in the book. He's lying or remembering incorrectly, right?

Evan, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

right

fka snush (remy bean), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

A couple examples from s1 not in the books, that I could have done without:

Viserys in tub with Doreah talking dragons
Littlefinger evaluating Ros' prostitute skills

Moodles, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

i feel like all the sex is vital and nessisary

lag∞n, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

HBO sex is a bit embarrassing and sad, like watching your dad make a dirty joke that falls flat.

fka snush (remy bean), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

I liked Viserys in the tub, but I feel a bit deviant admitting that. He was a psuedo albino cutie.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

^ yeah, this is otm. the leering depiction of female nudity definitely mars any feminist cred the show might otherwise muster, though i think people make too much of it sometimes, in a way that prevents them from seeing that there's a lot of good in there with the HBO cheesecake.

while it may be partially true, as r|t|c says, that "'strong, independent females' are equally predictable (and perhaps equally trivial) in this kinda nerd stuff", i don't think that this predictability is a fault, and it certainly isn't trivial. xena, warrior princess was initially criticized as fanboy cheesecake, but wound up meaning a lot more to lesbians than it ever did to straight guys. fantasy and science-fiction have long been popular among female readers, and they've attracted a number of strongly feminist authors. the worlds that these genres create are, of course, unreal, but they allow the exercise of constructive, transformative imagination. in fantasy and science-fiction, the possibilities available are not constrained by conventional social or even physical boundaries, something that a number of liberation-minded thinkers (feminist, queer, etc) have remarked upon.

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

The books are more successful at dealing with the topic of misogyny than the tv show, which trips itself up by adding in unnecessary sex scenes that only seem to be included to bump up ratings and get us though slow exposition.

― Moodles, Thursday, May 3, 2012 6:59 AM (25 minutes ago)

^ the "this" i was responding to

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

HBO sex is a bit embarrassing and sad, like watching your dad make a dirty joke that falls flat.

― fka snush (remy bean), Thursday, May 3, 2012 10:22 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

*rolls eyes deeply deeply back into skull*

lag∞n, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Remy very otm

The world is your urinal. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 3 May 2012 14:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Compared to what other sex on TV?

poxen, Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

the sex in game of thrones works really well because its totally sensationalistic and silly just like the rest of the show

lag∞n, Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

i cant really comment on all the sex on hbo ever, would require some research, ill leave it to noted hbo sex experts remy bean and forksclovetofu

lag∞n, Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

noted hobo sexperts

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

sometimes i feel bad for the street interviews of the ppl on Real Sex, i bet they didn't think that clip of them talking about going down on their wife in 1992 was gonna be replayed all the time for the next 20 years

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:19 (2 years ago) Permalink


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