PUNK: THE COMPILATION (Which of these tracks is the most UNpunk?)

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does Huey Lewis get a pass for playing with the group that backed up on Elvis Costello's debut?

President Keyes, Monday, 30 April 2012 01:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

huey had severed his ties with clover by that point iirc

would be kind of hilarious if the rest of this comp was filled with like "lexicon devil" and "police story" and this was just what they put in the commercial to grab the curious

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 30 April 2012 01:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Voting "Karma Chameleon" because Boy George inspired a book called Like Punk Never Happened.

which makes the crucial point that many of the New Pop kewpie dolls started off as punks.

Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 30 April 2012 02:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

So one way to determine the most unpunk of the above is to determine which of them would have existed without punk.

It's really hard to determine whether x could happened if y had not happened (when y did happen - all these artists, including Quarterflash, exist in a reality where punk happened) but I have no trouble imagining that Cars-style new wave could have emerged without the Ramones or Sex Pistols also needing to emerge. Stuff like Flock of Seagulls or Erasure seems to me to owe more to disco and/or Kraftwerk than to punk rock.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 30 April 2012 02:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

Man, I wonder how many of those "only available from this TV offer" albums they sold. Had to be significant...

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 30 April 2012 03:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Erasure seems to me to owe more to disco and/or Kraftwerk than to punk rock.

The Quietus had a nice roundup of Andy Bell's 13 favorite albums, many of which are slightly more punk than this compilation's offerings. "I had been a rather reluctant punk as a teenager, finding the whole movement too aggressive for a Peterborough gay boy..."

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Monday, 30 April 2012 03:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

can't find any evidence outside youtube that this thing ever existed

Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Monday, 30 April 2012 03:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ha, it would make sense if it's a fake.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 30 April 2012 03:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's brilliant if so!

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 30 April 2012 03:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

The reason I'm convinced it's legit is because the friend who posted it on fb had mentioned in the past seeing this commercial when it was new and was happy to finally find it online.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 April 2012 03:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

sessions (the label) definitely existed, but there isn't much about it online.

Sgt. Dee Dee The Brass Cupcake McCall (get bent), Monday, 30 April 2012 04:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

apparently, a company at the same address produced two other 36 song collections:

All for Love - 36 '90s rock ballads
Totally '90's - 36 original hits from the '90's

Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Monday, 30 April 2012 04:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

I really hope everyone who "starred" in one of these ads was in on the joke and not really some struggling actor who thought of this as a stepping stone to fame.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 April 2012 04:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

xxp - is it a sessions release? the end of the ad says that it was put out by "westwood promotions". maybe that's the same thing, i dunno.

Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Monday, 30 April 2012 04:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

My favorite compilation ad was for "Into The Night," with 36 seductive sophisti-pop hits.

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Monday, 30 April 2012 04:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Westwood was(is?) a huge music promoter back in the day, and had their own syndicated shows on radio. Maybe this isn't the same company, but it seems right up their alley.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 April 2012 04:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

i could be confusing it with the "secret love" comp, which was "compiled by westwood promotions for sessions" per the internet!

Sgt. Dee Dee The Brass Cupcake McCall (get bent), Monday, 30 April 2012 04:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Totally '90's - 36 original hits from the '90's

Featuring your favorite hits, like "Umbrella" by Rhianna, A-Ha's "Take On Me", and "We're In The Money" by the inimitable Ginger Rogers.

O Aquaman (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 30 April 2012 04:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've never heard Kirsty MacColl from andy bells list.

JacobSanders, Monday, 30 April 2012 04:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Really? You have some fun times ahead.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 April 2012 04:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wait a sec... I always thought that Quarterflash was trying to copy what The Motels were doing. If I remember correctly, the Motels already had a hit in '79 and had this weird punk connection (existing band moves to another city, is broke, hangs out with punks)

Reality Check Cashing Services (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 30 April 2012 04:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Westwood was(is?) a huge music promoter back in the day, and had their own syndicated shows on radio. Maybe this isn't the same company

That's Westwood One (which <> Westwood Promotions, whoever they were, but the resemblance was probably intentional)

Lee593 (Lee626), Monday, 30 April 2012 05:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

xxp - is it a sessions release? the end of the ad says that it was put out by "westwood promotions". maybe that's the same thing, i dunno.

The Amazon page for this comp seems to suggest that Sessions and Westwood Promotions are cosely connected. Other stuff found on google implies that they were one and the same

albert rotman (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 30 April 2012 10:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ahemn "closely connected"

albert rotman (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 30 April 2012 10:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

I have a dim childhood recollection of Quarterflash being sold as New Wave, and being terribly confused and disappointed when I finally heard them. I can't get my head around people not understanding how punk being an out gay pop star in 80s was. Look up the damn word. Voted for Escape Club. Freedom Rock was an objectively terrific comp, and I think it sold incredibly well.

Three Word Username, Monday, 30 April 2012 10:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

Quarterflash, without much doubt. I had some remarks to add regarding hairdos and the Beserkely label but the points have already been made by Xhuxk and others.

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 30 April 2012 13:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

omg I can't get past the beginning of the commercial without breaking down

I hope those actors were paid in Happy Meals

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Monday, 30 April 2012 13:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

thats like $45 in 2012 dollars right? thank god rush delivery was available.

a single goddamn marshmallow fucked me for LIFE (Hunt3r), Monday, 30 April 2012 17:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

if we're talking strictly about the track, not the act, I think "Eyes Without A Face" is the least punk song here by a good distance

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 30 April 2012 17:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

"gimme gimme wild west, gimme gimme safe sex"
doesn't get more punk rock than that

billstevejim, Monday, 30 April 2012 17:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

The hell it doesn't.

Three Word Username, Monday, 30 April 2012 17:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

this whole thread is the funniest fucking thing

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Monday, 30 April 2012 17:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

doesnt billy at least steal a car and go to vegas in that song? dude didnt give a fuck

a single goddamn marshmallow fucked me for LIFE (Hunt3r), Monday, 30 April 2012 17:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

if we're talking strictly about the track, not the act, I think "Eyes Without A Face" is the least punk song here by a good distance

i'd say "don't dream it's over" and "chains of love" give it a fair run for the money

Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Monday, 30 April 2012 17:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

PUNK AS FUCK

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Monday, 30 April 2012 17:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

that song rules though

billstevejim, Monday, 30 April 2012 17:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Jam & Lewis produced that Human League album back-to-back with a Crass joint, iirc.

O Aquaman (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 30 April 2012 17:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

bsj, a whole bunch of these songs rule and not a single one of them has any business on a compilation called "PUNK"

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Monday, 30 April 2012 17:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

except for "Karma Chameleon" you mean - that's a Discharge cover, I think it's earned its stripes

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 30 April 2012 17:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm having trouble finding this on discogs.. i wouldn't mind seeing the full tracklisting

billstevejim, Monday, 30 April 2012 17:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah i think the unlisted tracks deserve consideration

a single goddamn marshmallow fucked me for LIFE (Hunt3r), Monday, 30 April 2012 17:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm curious about the release date in relation to when songs like "I Wanna Be Sedated" started getting more popular.

billstevejim, Monday, 30 April 2012 18:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

good luck with that xp

albert rotman (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 30 April 2012 18:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

I looked yesterday and I can't find a bit of info anywhere about this thing other than this commercial on youtube. I want to know what else was on it as much as anyone.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 April 2012 18:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm pretty sure "Rock The Casbah" has maintained its popularity pretty consistently ever since its release...

I guess I'm just wondering what songs that constitute actual "punk" could have been reasonably considered for a comp like this.. Probably released around 1990/1991

billstevejim, Monday, 30 April 2012 18:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

i dunno how cheap media buys were back then but my bet is each of these compilations would have had to go gold to break even.

Philip Nunez, Monday, 30 April 2012 18:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

If I had more time (and talent) than I do, I'd record and upload the punk cover of "Harden My Heart" that's in my head right now. Just imagine it played at 2x speed, repetitive fast staccato bass notes, lose the swing-y triplets, and add frenzied fuzzy rhythm guitar and frenetic drumming.....

Lee593 (Lee626), Monday, 30 April 2012 18:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

someone with some spare time do some archeologic digging for punk/hardcore covers of these songs

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Monday, 30 April 2012 18:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

No way 'Eyes w/o a Face' is the least punk of these unpunk tracks. All kinds of punk happens in the horrible give-the-guitarist-some 'rap' section. He's 'readin' murder books, tryin' to stay hip!'

bit.ly sno cone maker (Jon Lewis), Monday, 30 April 2012 18:40 (2 years ago) Permalink


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