PUNK: THE COMPILATION (Which of these tracks is the most UNpunk?)

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Johnny Fever, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

Haha same here. I keep getting this thread.

xxpost

Also from being the main force behind the proto-punk, pub rock Brinsley Schwarz.

Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh cmon Devo is totally punk

albert rotman (loves laboured breathing), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

Nick Lowe and Billy Idol about the only ones here that have even some connection with punk rock.

I'll vote for Toni Basil

toni basil had a connection to punk (or post-punk): devo played on/produced "mickey" and the album it was on.

Sgt. Dee Dee The Brass Cupcake McCall (get bent), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'd forgotten about Lowe's Damned production turn, but the EC and Brinsley Schwarz things don't really cut him into punk imo.

Toni Basil did a bunch of Devo covers at some point, too.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

Sgt. Dee Dee The Brass Cupcake McCall (get bent), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh lol I guess it was that very album. I've only ever heard them as standalones, so I had no idea they were on the Word of Mouth album.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

"So it Goes" was ~~kind of~~ linked to the punk scene, no?

GoT SPOILER ALERT (Gukbe), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

and "mickey" came from a power-pop song called "kitty":

Sgt. Dee Dee The Brass Cupcake McCall (get bent), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

Wow. I don't think I ever knew about that.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

Early Elvis Costello (i.e. "Pump It Up") sounds plenty punk to me, but ymmv

Lee593 (Lee626), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

"kitty" was co-written by mike chapman, blondie's producer.

Sgt. Dee Dee The Brass Cupcake McCall (get bent), Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

Toni Basil, the unacknowledged punk pioneer

Lee593 (Lee626), Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

She's in the Monkees film "Head",,

Mark G, Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

And Easy Rider...

emil.y, Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

And Five Easy Pieces. And helped choreograph The T.A.M.I. Show.

clemenza, Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

get bent, that's amazing.

skip, Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think this compilation was put together by a punk scholar who just wanted to fuck with everyone.

Sgt. Dee Dee The Brass Cupcake McCall (get bent), Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

voted Karma Chameleon. just come on.

skip, Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

(xpost) that said, i think quarterflash probably has the most degrees of separation from actual punk culture. i voted for escape club but in retrospect i'd change my vote.

Sgt. Dee Dee The Brass Cupcake McCall (get bent), Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

xxp - Wiki sez Toni Basil changed "Kitty" to "Mickey" in honour of Mickey Dolenz (and to make the song about a man).

There's some serious gender-bending going on in that cover though given all the lyrics she didn't gender-flip, like "i'll take it like a man". Kinda have new respect for Toni Basil....

Lee593 (Lee626), Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

quarterflash were from portland; did they ever play at satyricon? did rindy ross ever have a beer with the wipers?

Sgt. Dee Dee The Brass Cupcake McCall (get bent), Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

I've never even heard of Quarterflash.

emil.y, Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

"harden my heart" and "find another fool" were fairly big hits, but somehow they weren't swept up with the current wave of '80s nostalgia.

Sgt. Dee Dee The Brass Cupcake McCall (get bent), Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

quarterflash were from portland...did rindy ross ever have a beer with the wipers?

Probably not, but maybe with Nu Shooz. (Led by another husband-and-wife team -- maybe they double-dated!)

xhuxk, Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

i recall liking 'harden my heart' a lot as a wee lad

mookieproof, Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

"harden my heart" would be a good song for someone like carrie underwood to cover.

Sgt. Dee Dee The Brass Cupcake McCall (get bent), Sunday, 29 April 2012 23:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

Voted for "She's A Beauty" just on principle. I will take any opportunity to cast a vote against that ghastly song.

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Monday, 30 April 2012 00:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

I really loved this ad though! If there were a DVD of compilation ads I would totally buy it. They are the perfect kind of ad.

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Monday, 30 April 2012 00:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

Abbbottt super-otm, unsurprisingly

albert rotman (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 30 April 2012 00:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

voting huey lewis because

a)the bouncy groove and yuppie sentiment of "i want a new drug" represent everything fucked about the 80s

b)he just sounds and looks too wholesome to be anything but UNpunk

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Monday, 30 April 2012 00:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

Secret Love!

Freedom Rock!

"Hey man, remember the good old days? You know, war. Protests."
"Going to JAIL!!"

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 30 April 2012 00:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 30 April 2012 00:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

OK sorry to hijack this thread with old '80s compilation commercials. Carry on...

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 30 April 2012 00:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

Voting "Karma Chameleon" because Boy George inspired a book called Like Punk Never Happened.

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 30 April 2012 00:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

MTV used to constantly play the live video for Quarterflash Find Another Fool, which contained one of the great 80s sax solos.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 30 April 2012 01:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

does Huey Lewis get a pass for playing with the group that backed up on Elvis Costello's debut?

President Keyes, Monday, 30 April 2012 01:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

huey had severed his ties with clover by that point iirc

would be kind of hilarious if the rest of this comp was filled with like "lexicon devil" and "police story" and this was just what they put in the commercial to grab the curious

jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 30 April 2012 01:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

Voting "Karma Chameleon" because Boy George inspired a book called Like Punk Never Happened.

which makes the crucial point that many of the New Pop kewpie dolls started off as punks.

Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 30 April 2012 02:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

So one way to determine the most unpunk of the above is to determine which of them would have existed without punk.

It's really hard to determine whether x could happened if y had not happened (when y did happen - all these artists, including Quarterflash, exist in a reality where punk happened) but I have no trouble imagining that Cars-style new wave could have emerged without the Ramones or Sex Pistols also needing to emerge. Stuff like Flock of Seagulls or Erasure seems to me to owe more to disco and/or Kraftwerk than to punk rock.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 30 April 2012 02:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

Man, I wonder how many of those "only available from this TV offer" albums they sold. Had to be significant...

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 30 April 2012 03:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

Erasure seems to me to owe more to disco and/or Kraftwerk than to punk rock.

The Quietus had a nice roundup of Andy Bell's 13 favorite albums, many of which are slightly more punk than this compilation's offerings. "I had been a rather reluctant punk as a teenager, finding the whole movement too aggressive for a Peterborough gay boy..."

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Monday, 30 April 2012 03:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

can't find any evidence outside youtube that this thing ever existed

Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Monday, 30 April 2012 03:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

Ha, it would make sense if it's a fake.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 30 April 2012 03:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

It's brilliant if so!

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 30 April 2012 03:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

The reason I'm convinced it's legit is because the friend who posted it on fb had mentioned in the past seeing this commercial when it was new and was happy to finally find it online.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 April 2012 03:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

sessions (the label) definitely existed, but there isn't much about it online.

Sgt. Dee Dee The Brass Cupcake McCall (get bent), Monday, 30 April 2012 04:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

apparently, a company at the same address produced two other 36 song collections:

All for Love - 36 '90s rock ballads
Totally '90's - 36 original hits from the '90's

Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Monday, 30 April 2012 04:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

I really hope everyone who "starred" in one of these ads was in on the joke and not really some struggling actor who thought of this as a stepping stone to fame.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 April 2012 04:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

xxp - is it a sessions release? the end of the ad says that it was put out by "westwood promotions". maybe that's the same thing, i dunno.

Choc. Clusterman (contenderizer), Monday, 30 April 2012 04:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

I guess the idea of hardening your heart is a punk sentiment, but I'm not sure it's worth a distant finish behind bands with clear new wave affiliations.

at a guess, Quarterflash may have lost votes by being the only one on this list to be completely unknown in Europe?

that 90s comp looks like it came free with 10 purchases of a soft drink in early 1994, so I guess it is pretty 90s

instant coffee happening between us (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 4 May 2012 14:40 (1 year ago) Permalink


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