Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12

Nice

― Number None, Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh wow

― diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

fuck yeah

first goal from a FK this season yes?

― listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

BOOOM

― kid steel (cajunsunday), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

was there a deflection?

― Number None, Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

nope

― diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

how will u feel if tottenham finish fourth and chelsea win the cl thereby consigning u to the europa league?

― Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

how'd you think

― diafiyhm (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

stoical imo

― Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

roberto di matteo looks vaguely like a harlequin foetus

― Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

Attempts on goal TH 16 Blackburn 0.

― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

p staggered at how shit Blackburn were, I can't think of one player who did anything to elevate himself above adequacy

― listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

if Chelsea had had them instead of QPR today it'd've been about 15-0

― listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 29 April 2012 16:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

OptaJoe on Twitter: "0 - Blackburn have become the first team not to manage a single shot (inc blocks) in a PL game since WBA v Man City in Dec 2004. Blunt."

― Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 17:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

It was deflected. Rubbish goal tbf

― Number None, Sunday, 29 April 2012 17:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

somehow despite our terrible form, our earlier form was good enough that we can still be 4th

― the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

West Bromwich Albion have given the FA leave to speak to Roy Hodgson about the vacant England manager job, the FA says

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha

― Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

i was going to do a roy hodgson appreciation thread last week

i am convinced he is a mensch, possibly the only one in (english) football, and despite what chris was saying the other day

― Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

the reason i didn't do the thread was that i couldn't find a good clip of him speaking italian on youtube, he has the best accent for italian

― Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp Does he? and Swedish also?

Nakchivan, I am glad to agree with you.
I love Roy Hodgson.
He is my favourite manager currently working in the UK game.
He has dignity, intelligence, eloquence, decency that few others show.

I don't, of course, claim that he would be a success as England manager.

― the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

this IS kind of fun

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/apr/29/roy-hodgson-england-fa

― the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

here he is speaking german (after the obese guy stops speaking german)

i have an a* gcse in german which means i can undertstand the words 'fussball' and 'ich'

― Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

hodgson's a good manager, never said he isn't, but it's hilarious how he's portrayed as this erudite, wise figure. he's a bullshitter of the highest order, he plays 'don't get beat' football, and if his time at liverpool's anything to go by then fuck knows how he'll handle the pressure of managing england. bring it on.

― Chris, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

HA HA HA HA HA HA

― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

I don't think he'll succeed at England at all - if it happens (maybe it's a flash in the pan story)
I don't have that much of a view of him 'as a manager' - ie I don't think he'll 'bring success'
I agree that he thrives on organizing lower-table players, not top ones

but, I also think he is an unmistakably decent, dignified man and his intelligence and, yes, erudition happen to be far higher than most people's in football. (He has read about 20 x as much Saul Bellow and Philip Roth as I have.) This would be true even if he was a disaster as a coach.

― the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

"It doesn’t bother me because I can’t do more than I am doing, I can’t work harder, I can’t work better."

― Chris, Sunday, 29 April 2012 18:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

For the national game development side of the job, he's the best candidate imo. For the national team manager side of the job he could well be a disaster imo.

This should be fun.

― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

He's been given permission to go in for an interview, as will the other candidates. He won't get the job.

― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

There aren't any other candidates, though?

― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

the statement says he's the only manager that's been approached

― Number None, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

and given that wording, i assume it's already been agreed behind the scenes

― Number None, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

i don't see the contradiction between the claims supposedly made for his wisdom/erudition and his cautious approach to football

before cruyff and barcelonaism, 'don't get beat' was the foundation of most advanced footballing thought

i don't think he is an 'erudite' thinker-about-football manager like bielsa or sacchi or maybe lobanovski and zaccheroni, but he is certainly clever

― Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

there is something about the ability to think in different languages that I find intellectually impressive
I am thus terrifically impressed by the casualness with which RH talks German in that clip - in just the same sort of amiable way he would talk English

moment c.4:45 when he clearly cheerily tells the German bloke, 'ey, and Germany have a chance too, mate!'

― the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

He's probably the nearest to Graham Taylor there is, which isn't a criticism though in this context might as well be.

― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

His erudition is not football-specific -- that's my point

I don't claim that he's a great manager, I just think he's a genuinely intelligent and knowledgeable man who seems also unusually nice.

― the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

totally

― Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

It's like when Curbishley went into meet the FA a few years back and the Sun assumed he was about to be offered the job.

it's hilarious how he's portrayed as this erudite, wise figure. he's a bullshitter of the highest order, he plays 'don't get beat' football

This can be safely written off as Liverpool fan myopia - his Liverpool team was shite but his teams at Fulham and West Brom haven't played like that at all. I also like his stanning for Updike and Milan Kundera, which within the football world basically makes him Einsten.

― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

re England, I think he'd do slightly better if he had the players every week; but training once every couple of months, or whatever, I can't see what he can bring to it.

― the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

the statement says he's the only manager that's been approached

Yet.

Why would the FA only approach one manager, even given they've had headhunters doing the initial selection? It doesn't make sense.

The only rationale I can think behind it is that the other contenders would cost more, in terms of wages and getting them out of their contracts, than the FA are prepared to pay.

― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

ok, he's obviously a bright chap, but jesus the shite he came out with at liverpool was just incredible. i can forgive the football, we knew what were getting when he got the job, i blame purslow for that. but shifting responsibility, claiming he can't work harder, slagging off the fans and his players in public, and spreading lies about the man he replaced? no thanks.

― Chris, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

there are probably a lot of clever football managers but most seem intellectually incurious

the only times i can ever remember mourinho alluding to the lived world beyond football were when he mocked abramovich for 'shopping at waitrose' for discount players like tal ben haim, and when he said there were many famous theatres in catalonia (a clunkily spiteful reference to lionel messi's playacting)

― Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

Maybe 'arry let it be known he didn't want the job? By doing it publicly it would make any appointment look like second choice. Still, lets wait and see.

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

Bernstein said: "Roy is the only manager we have approached and we remain on course to make an appointment within the timescale we set out.

"Further conversations will now take place with Roy."

― Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

he probably can't work harder
he probably works a lot harder than I do, and harder than most footballers do
he is in his 60s anyway

re world beyond footy, Fergie ought to be able to refer to Govan shipyards but doesn't

I guess none of us know the truth yet re whether RH is really likely to get the job. Maybe he wouldn't even accept it if offered.

― the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

he probably works a lot harder than a lot of people who, like me, sometimes post to www messageboards do

― the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

btw I get the impression Redknapp works hard too
he gets up at 5 every day anyway to drive to work

I think most managers work very hard and I think a lot of players don't

― the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

I can't actually think of any manager who seems lazy.

― the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think Hodgson is a bit too frank for the England job really. He'll do something like claim England probably won't win the next World Cup and The Sun will go apoplectic. Also The Sun can usually be relied upon to get butthurt if they don't get their man in.

― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

I suppose he'd get a ton of cash from it including a payoff when fired, all of which he could pass on to his children. That might be reason enough to do it.

― the pinefox, Sunday, 29 April 2012 19:22 (1 year ago) Permalink