Loveless Remaster Actually Sound Better?

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you might try the analogue version.

Or the 'japancakes' cover

Mark G, Saturday, 28 April 2012 11:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

Or a different band

Jamie_ATP, Saturday, 28 April 2012 12:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

A remix would be good, but I'd keep the vocals the same, just give the rhythm section more beef.

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 28 April 2012 12:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Now available to stream at the grauniad

sktsh, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 08:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Arrived with us today, so they're really real at least...

only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

listening now

no better way to judge a remastering job than listening to an audio stream on my work computer!

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 20:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think this sounds good? i haven't listened to the CD in ages tho

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

funny that shields is so down on that plain records vinyl release from way back when -- i had a friend who raved about how awesome it sounded.

tylerw, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

funny that shields is so down on that plain records vinyl release from way back when -- i had a friend who raved about how awesome it sounded.

Plain got a shit-storm of criticism on the Spiritualized boards about their handling of recent vinyl reissues of the first 3 Spz albums since their m.o. is to just take an off-the-shelf CD and use that for a master. I would avoid anything that company releases.

Reality Check Cashing Services (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Shields says not only did they use a commercial CD as the master, that it was also functionally a bootleg, to the degree he was able to get it blocked from sale in the UK

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

I take it all back about them never existing. Half expecting the CDs to be mis-printed with audiobooks of Harry Potter, though.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 7 May 2012 09:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

I take it all back about them never existing. Half expecting the CDs to be mis-printed with audiobooks of Harry Potter, though.

― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, May 7, 2012 10:45 AM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No, disappointingly low on printed word inserts though. Just some photographic stuff on the e.ps , not sure what came in Loveless. Might have hoped for some commentary from band members as you get on other reissues but maybe MBV weren't like that. An explanation as to why there were 2 different versions of Loveless might have been interesting. Like you can find that online now but when these are discovered by the next generation or dug up as relics of our civilisation people won't find that referencing so easy.

Stevolende, Monday, 7 May 2012 10:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Especially when it's an Archaeological team from Blink 182 University.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 7 May 2012 13:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Might have hoped for some commentary from band members as you get on other reissues but maybe MBV weren't like that.

wasn't one of the two-year delays because Kevin was working on the sleeve notes?

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Monday, 7 May 2012 14:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Seemingly not.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 7 May 2012 14:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

well, these notes leaked out recently, not sure if they're legit

tylerw, Monday, 7 May 2012 14:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

And, one more time for old times sake..

My Bloody Valentine

New Album
CD £11.00 Free Delivery

Release date: 07-011-2012

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 08:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

I have stolen your joke tylerw. I thought it rather witty.

only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 08:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

actually (this is true this time..)

My Bloody Valentine

Loveless: Remastered: 2cd

release date: 07-05-2012

currently out of stock

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://thepowerofindependenttrucking.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/mbv-loveless-2012-remasters.html

tl,dr: The new release has the discs swapped: disc one is supposed to be the digital remaster, and disc two from analog. They are labeled as so too. Except, a blatant manufacturing error - on all copies I've been made aware of - has the wrong labels on the discs. The new release has #1 labeled digital but with the analog master. #2 is labeled analog but has the digital master.

nate woolls, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

(those aren't my words in the tl,dr)

nate woolls, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Would be interested to compare, bitwise, the versions just released and those I got my hands on in 2008.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Soon the original Loveless CD will be a treasured collector's item.

Lil' Kim Philby (Call the Cops), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

I wouldn't be surprised if that is true, to a degree. What with being out of print for the last few years in anticipation of these remasters they have held a decent value whenever we have had them come in, either secondhand or as left over new stock.

only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

Congratulations on your mail order krakow... truly spreading the Meronian word.

Lil' Kim Philby (Call the Cops), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Kiitos paljon! Thanks very much! A project born of obsession and love...

only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 11:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is that actually true about the mislabelling?

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 13:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

I trust that dude, I have to say.

Maybe not all of them, I'll have to check mine (seems if one has a fuller fade out on "Soon", that's the analogue master)

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think that guy is the guy behind the New Order/Joy Division/Smiths reissues that have been discussed here, I think he knows his stuff.

nate woolls, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, exactly.

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

SO, will list to Loveless CD1 on the way home..

Funny, the e.p. set: First time I've seen a gatefold CD with absolutely nothing on the inside gatefold! (Open again, there's the e.p. covers)

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've been reading similar things about the mislabeling on other sites. Can't say I'm surprised at how they bungled this but it does seem to be common with remasters nowadays.

skip, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

should start a thread re all these high profile remastering f*ck ups.

i recently picked up the special edition of the spandau ballet debut, and lo', that too is f*cked.

no bass at all. truly dreadful remastering.

then again, they did label the cds correctly.

mark e, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

No bass at all?!? Like... no bass part whatsoever or just no bottom end?

btw didn't i braek ur heart (NickB), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

Alas poor Martin Kemp (was it remastered by Gary?)

btw didn't i braek ur heart (NickB), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha.
no.
seem to have read somewhere tis same bloke who messed up the recent duran remasters, but i can't be 100% certain.

mark e, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

the worst remastering/ mastering job i can think of is the Blur StarShaped DVD which is *legendarily* screwed beyond words. it's the only genuinely unlistenable DVD or CD
i've ever owned.

piscesx, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

I believe that was mastered from a VHS copy.

Anyways, I played CD1, it has the 'full fade' on Soon, which makes it a mislabel.

Mind you, the "CD1" and 2 markings are tiny so hey.

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

Hey what's this? Got a good beat to it.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 22 September 2012 17:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

So, I gave them a listen and I don't think they really fixed the problems with Loveless and Isn't anything. I had heard people say before that Loveless on vinyl sounded amazing and the CD sounded like crap. I have always thought the recording was too tinny and not wide/full enough.

I thought the same thing about Jesus and Mary Chain's Psychocandy, but I think the remaster fixed this album and now it sounds great. I thought Sterelolab's Peng! remaster fixed that album up as much as possible, but the Loveless remaster doesn't do the trick -- in fact, it kind of goes in the other direction. Now, a lot of the vocals sound so separated from the noisy drone that it looses the effect of being behind a wall of sound.

3×5, Sunday, 23 September 2012 17:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yo, what Peng! remaster???

gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 23 September 2012 20:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

ha i just checked the mbv forum for the first time in a lil while: the thing that makes me laugh is how GREEDY everyone is. like there is the perpetual state of still-flickering optimism riding on whispers or occasional kevin shields interviews, but on top of that people are all trying to put DATES on it. like possibly November??. i guess if it really is almost finished then WE COULD HAVE IT LIKE STRAIGHT AWAY? also atm there is a post in which people are enthused by rumours about, 1., deadlines, i guess forgetting the grey sunlightened pencil deadline of 1994 on the wall of a now demolished studio, &, 2., that after recording is finished there would only, "only", ~only~, only be mixing to do. i mean it could be out in october if he just has to scribble mix my new album off his checklist. i am really not different from these people but the similarities between mbv fans & doomsday cults are so marginal.

let's get the banned back together (schlump), Sunday, 23 September 2012 21:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Peng remaster?

svend, Monday, 24 September 2012 20:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Discogs says reissue is 2008, but I can't see any mention of a remaster.

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 24 September 2012 21:38 (2 years ago) Permalink


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