The Return Of My Bloody Valentine

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why do i feel like the new mix of "angel/bilinda song" is minutely, but noticeably enough, slower?

kelpolaris, Saturday, 28 April 2012 06:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

If it is slower, then it's entirely possible that during the original mastering somebody asked for it to be speeded up slightly, it might not have been written down in the mastering notes and/or Shields forgot during the remastering process.

Dick Move's Wardrobe (MaresNest), Saturday, 28 April 2012 07:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

I guess it was a bit of a rush to get these remasters out, so it would be easy for something like that to be missed.

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 28 April 2012 09:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah, can everyone ease off and give kevin shields a little more time to work on these? everything is so rushed these last 20 years!

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Saturday, 28 April 2012 15:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

has antyone got a copy of the new remasters? are they different from those 'remasters' that are all over torrent sites etc from 2008?

piscesx, Saturday, 28 April 2012 15:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

Those prices are really cheap. The whole lot with shipping converts to $45.10, whereas the EPs in US Amazon alone are $28. I wonder if that's for a limited time.

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

so what is up with the second disc of loveless just being loveless again?

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

the 2nd disc is remastered from the analog tapes or something.
you can never have too many copies of loveless.

BringTheAuBonPain, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:06 (4 years ago) Permalink

the first was loveless as you remember, the second was meant for kevin's chinchillas

kelpolaris, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:38 (4 years ago) Permalink

so I'm assuming if you play them both at the same time, the waveforms that are inverted cancel each other out and all that remains is the mysterious third album.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 28 April 2012 19:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

No, it's actually me going "Ah, hello, I'd like to talk to you about a very, very special album close to my heart. You might know it. It's called Loveless. First, let me set the scene." And so on for fifty minutes.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 April 2012 20:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

Oh man, the end of Angel is so


― Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Saturday, 28 April 2012 02:21 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes! it's back to them playing guitars like on the second side of isn't anything, only a step further along, with some of the sweetness they were drifting towards on tremolo, &c. it could go on forever

blossom smulch (schlump), Sunday, 29 April 2012 14:00 (4 years ago) Permalink


Chewshabadoo, Monday, 30 April 2012 19:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

OK, actually an interesting read, now I'm halfway through.

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 30 April 2012 19:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

That song is pretty awesome. Also has about 10% of the reverb modern 'MBV-influenced' bands tend to use.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:15 (4 years ago) Permalink

unreleased tracks are on youtube



tbh kinda torn b/w wanting to listen to them RIGHT NOW & waiting to get my hands on something of respectable quality. What a fantastic surprise! I honestly had no idea that there would be unreleased material included w/ the remasters (or they'd ever even happen themselves obv).

fishermen are coveted by whores & stoners (Pillbox), Monday, 30 April 2012 19:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

They've been around for about 3 years anyway.

Blimey: My Bloody Valentine 20-year old demos surface?

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 30 April 2012 20:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

those paragraphs about how "everything's brought up to zero" don't fill me with confidence.

koogs, Monday, 30 April 2012 20:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

That's an interesting interview, especially the treatment by the record labels.

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 30 April 2012 21:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah saying one of the tracks had to be a "sacrificial lamb" to get everything up to a louder volume is kinda :S

That's a pretty funky dance, Garfield. Show me how you do it. (frogbs), Monday, 30 April 2012 21:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

so which remaster of loveless is better, the new one or the old one from the analog tape? is there a huge difference?

two streams

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:38 (4 years ago) Permalink

both streams are almost exactly the same loudness, the analog one seems *slightly* less compressed and easier on the ears

diamonddave85, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

will have to withhold tru judgement until i can blast this on my stereo at home

diamonddave85, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

LITERALLY no difference on those 2 streams.

piscesx, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 03:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

sure, a crappy stream of something that dude carefully remastered for one specific audio format only and to be played loud on an actual hi-fi, that'll prove lots

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 03:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

No Cassette edition?

(I have the minidisc edition already)

Mark G, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 08:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

So far it seems like the underwhelming 2008 promo leak was in fact genuine. Meh.

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 10:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

Actually, now I'm listening to it again with some A/B with the orginal CD and I think I prefer the EQ balance on these new ones, there's definitely a fuller sound, however it also seems to be quite fatiguing on my ears, but maybe I'm just listening to it too loud.

I haven't actually listened to the album for a couple of years at least and I was beginning to think I may have overrated it, but it's still pretty amazing.

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

Shields says the 2008 leak was unfinished

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 12:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

In order to hear the difference you have to play it at top volume through the band's PA.

Kevin Shields remastering the records seems about as reliable as Neil Young doing it. Dude's own hearing has probably had a few dBs rolled off, if you follow me.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 13:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

however it also seems to be quite fatiguing on my ears

yeah I don't think a stream like this will really be helpful to judge - everything hurts at 128k

Brakhage, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 17:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

the remastered EPs sound very very good. nice to have a reason to listen to all these tracks again anyway.

the aower of aussy (electricsound), Monday, 7 May 2012 02:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

the first was loveless as you remember, the second was meant for kevin's chinchillas

― kelpolaris, Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:38 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i like this theory

bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Monday, 7 May 2012 03:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

Bilinda sounds louder/ clearer on the EPs.

piscesx, Monday, 7 May 2012 03:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

So any idea what is actually coming out in the U.S.? I've seen the EP collection available for pre-order at Amazon, but neither of the other two remasters are.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 7 May 2012 15:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

Haha oh wait, the Loveless remaster is an import for now. $66. Ugh.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 7 May 2012 15:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

Only $52 for the Isn't Anything remaster though.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 7 May 2012 15:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

I ordered direct from Amazon UK (I didn't realize you could place orders using your US account) - I think it was less than twenty bucks shipped to the US. Should be here in a week or so

Brakhage, Monday, 7 May 2012 17:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

it's just so bizarre to me that there is not a single mention online of a US release. i keep hearing may 15th tossed around but somehow i think sony wants to build up anticipation beyond just a week - well, anticipation in context of announce date to release date. they've sort been waited on for the past decade and a half.

kelpolaris, Monday, 7 May 2012 17:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

fwiw, Amazon lists June 5th for the U.S. release of the expensive ass import versions. the fairly priced EPs collection is listed as May 15th.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 7 May 2012 17:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

Not sure why anyone would wait. Just order from Around $15 each shipped.

Spencer Chow, Monday, 7 May 2012 17:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

Aah, but you forget the part where I have Amazon Prime. Free 2day shipping, fool.

kelpolaris, Monday, 7 May 2012 21:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

also, i already have flacs of the remasters and possess an embarrassing amount of unreleased MBV material. "bilinda song" has been one of my favorites for years and it kinda confuses me that "kevin song" wasn't included with the remastered ep's. i'm buying these purely for support-ical reasons, as any funding that contributes to shield's putting forth this new album i will gladly donate. i've considered starting a paypal fund just to hurry this shit up - the worlds ending for chrissake.

kelpolaris, Monday, 7 May 2012 21:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

OK, so -

- Single-disc remaster of Loveless via $66.50

- Double-disc remaster of Loveless via $19.11 (including shipping)

I got... um, the latter one.

Stravinsky joins the Zulu nation (zero of the signified), Monday, 7 May 2012 22:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

I too have Amazon prime, but the shipping on these from the UK was about $2.50 each when ordered together and only takes about 5 days.

Anyway, if you're not in a rush, then I'm sure there'll be a US release someday.

Spencer Chow, Monday, 7 May 2012 22:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

ok, maybe i'll consider that then. how did you get your prime shipping to transfer over? i tried logging into w/ my US account and was required to make a new one.

kelpolaris, Monday, 7 May 2012 22:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

Prime is not eligible when ordering from the UK site. Your login/password should be the same as your US account. Here is the shipping cost schedule for the USA:

Spencer Chow, Monday, 7 May 2012 22:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

The shipping cost I mentioned earlier is standard for everyone (Prime or no) and was based on ordering all 3.

I mean, if you're fine with your FLACs, they'll probably be out here eventually for $10/each with Prime.

I am just an old physical media nerd.

Spencer Chow, Monday, 7 May 2012 22:45 (4 years ago) Permalink

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