there's an entire Greenwald column linked here about what's they're being secretive about, and 2/3 of it isn't actually on OBL
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 27 April 2012 20:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah, the late great's look here is worse than Morbs'
Dismissing concerns about the security state with a handwave and a WHOOOOO CARES is a half-step from "if you don't do anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about"
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 27 April 2012 20:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
i'm not saying that. i'm just saying i'm a lot more troubled by things like knowing the criteria for airport watch lists or what exactly people in fuantanamo are charged with than knowing the details of the obl raid
fight the real enemy etc
― the late great, Friday, 27 April 2012 20:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
On March 14th, Obama called his national-security advisers into the White House Situation Room and reviewed a spreadsheet listing possible courses of action against the Abbottabad compound. Most were variations of either a JSOC raid or an airstrike. Some versions included coöperating with the Pakistani military; some did not. Obama decided against informing or working with Pakistan. “There was a real lack of confidence that the Pakistanis could keep this secret for more than a nanosecond,” a senior adviser to the President told me. At the end of the meeting, Obama instructed McRaven to proceed with planning the raid.
superman, rambo and clint must've been having a pretty slow week when the NYer decided to base its portrayal of obama on them.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 27 April 2012 20:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
"I trust Obama not to use the powers he just signed into law (in spite of neverending evidence), and surely they will be repealed before a Mormon dog-roofer possesses them."
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 April 2012 20:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
morbs, your goal-post shifting, unwillingness to engage with those engaging with you, obtuseness, etc is legendary but today's apparently a banner day.
― Clay, Friday, 27 April 2012 20:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
o i c
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 April 2012 20:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh idk, there's a lot about the BL raid that's nasty, and while i'm wearily jaded about its use politically, that's pretty nasty too.
― goole, Friday, 27 April 2012 20:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
I am sure glad killing OBL at least put an end to all that airport security Terror Theatre, I'll give ya that!
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 April 2012 20:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
t/f: extralegal black hits are bad but if anyone on earth deserved one it's osama bin laden
the trouble is the capability to do the thing doesn't exist in a vacuum; OBL might have been 'exceptional' as a person but the act of killing him turns out not to be
― goole, Friday, 27 April 2012 20:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
tbh it said more about the state of things re: Pakistan/US than anything
― mh, Friday, 27 April 2012 20:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
you know pre-9/11 i had an opportunity to work at lawrence livermore national lab on a naval oceanography environmental remediation project that was yanked because they didn't think it was worth the effort to try to get a security clearance for a nationalized citizen who was born in iran
where was the aclu on that day is what i wanna know
― the late great, Friday, 27 April 2012 20:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
uh...
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 27 April 2012 20:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
true story! (joeks bruv)
― the late great, Friday, 27 April 2012 21:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
:(
― heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 27 April 2012 21:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh man did i just kill the thread??
:-(
― the late great, Friday, 27 April 2012 21:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
nah
The fact is, OBL was in a sovereign nation that is nominally an ally, but an absolutely unreliable and often hostile one. That also meant that taking the legal path, by formally sharing info with the Pakistani government, obtaining its permission and planning a joint operation, with OBL taken into their custody until extradition could be arranged, was more or less a doomed option. Once legality is taken off the table, it is entirely off the table.
― Aimless, Friday, 27 April 2012 21:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
My reaction to the whole thing is still kind of mouth-hanging-open awe in that it was "Hey, sorry Pakistan but we found Osama hiding in your country so we sent an elite kill squad in. Uh, what is up with him being in your country anyway? Kind of weird, hope you don't mind. Love, US"
― mh, Friday, 27 April 2012 21:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
viva
― am0n, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2012/05/man-who-claims-he-found-bin-ladens-body-doesnt-have-bin-ladens-body/51818/
― am0n, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
Bin Laden is the new Titanic
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
Unless they somehow tagged the body or container with a locator beacon or something, no one is ever finding that.
― mh, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
Brian Williams, on bended knee in the Situation Room.
http://www.salon.com/2012/05/03/nbc_news_top_hagiographer/
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
RIP
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
Conspiracy theorists just got a new tank of high-octane...
Newly released emails say no sailors watched bin Laden’s burial at sea after Navy SEAL raid
WASHINGTON — Internal emails among U.S. military officers indicate that no sailors watched Osama bin Laden’s burial at sea from the USS Carl Vinson and traditional Islamic procedures were followed during the ceremony.The emails, obtained by The Associated Press through the Freedom of Information Act, are heavily blacked out, but are the first public disclosure of government information about the al-Qaida leader’s death. The emails were released Wednesday by the Defense Department.
The emails, obtained by The Associated Press through the Freedom of Information Act, are heavily blacked out, but are the first public disclosure of government information about the al-Qaida leader’s death. The emails were released Wednesday by the Defense Department.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 23 November 2012 20:46 (5 months ago) Permalink
http://www.esquire.com/features/man-who-shot-osama-bin-laden-0313?click=pp
guy has no healthcare
― goole, Monday, 11 February 2013 17:04 (3 months ago) Permalink
isn't that against the law now
― Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 11 February 2013 18:05 (3 months ago) Permalink
read the memo, Shakey Mo.
― Aimless, Monday, 11 February 2013 18:19 (3 months ago) Permalink
I meant not having healthcare. somebody tax that guy!
― Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 11 February 2013 18:31 (3 months ago) Permalink
Government don't care shocker!
― not_goodwin, Monday, 11 February 2013 18:32 (3 months ago) Permalink
Government don't health care shocker!
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 February 2013 18:32 (3 months ago) Permalink
shakey otm
― manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 20:25 (3 months ago) Permalink
Conspiracy thoughts: this guy sold his story to Hollywood (a breach of govt contract) and so the govt says "peace, good luck".
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 19:56 (3 months ago) Permalink