are you even listening to me? THE CABIN IN THE WOODS thread (WARNING: SPOILERS! SPOILERS! SPOILEROS! SPOILIDAD!)

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Whedon remembers outlining his premise to Lionsgate by ranting about the ills of the Saw franchise. It was only as he glanced around the room, at a wall full of Saw movie posters, that he realised they had produced the movies. “But you know, they’re not precious about it. They love horror, and if they didn’t they wouldn’t know how to market this film.” In any case, he says, he hasn’t actually seen a Saw film all the way through.

da croupier, Friday, 27 April 2012 16:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's a comedy

― congratulations (n/a), Friday, April 27, 2012 9:31 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this sounds like a cop-out in response to tuomas criticisms, but i think it's really otm. i agree that the movie wasn't particularly scary and that its deconstruction of the genre wasn't terribly compelling, but i saw it primarily as an absurdist comedy based in affectionate ribbing of genre conventions.

THE KITTEN TYPE (contenderizer), Friday, 27 April 2012 16:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Just saw this last night and I think is wonderful. The way I read it is the characters (young victims) slowly become self-aware of themselves as characters (though that was only really true for the redhead girl and the stoner), realizing they circumstances are absurd; and finally subverting their fate, carefully planned by the "Puppeteers" on order to please the "Ancient Ones" (audience). A key thing about it, though is that the movie never abandons the perspective of the characters (the sets, cameras, crew, etc. is all hidden and even when they discover it, it doesn't resemble a conventional film productions, plus all the creatures are REAL!) only gives them a glimpse of perspective and understanding of their universe. In that sense, I saw the final scene as (perhaps) a reference to Plato's Cave. I think the 1998 glitch they refer to is Funny Games, where the characters (though in this case, the bad guys) subvert the rules and take control.

daavid, Saturday, 28 April 2012 17:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

except that movie's not American

da croupier, Saturday, 28 April 2012 19:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

written by joss whedon and drew goddard

almost walked out of the theater when i saw this

suidavyvan eht nioj (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

gtk

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

that's the thing, the whole system purge bit is all about the pure joy of horror. All those scary creatures in the same place. It's just fun!

― Number None, Sunday, April 15, 2012 2:45 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i lol'd. it was pretty much the 2012 version of

suidavyvan eht nioj (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

This was definitely a hoot, but I think I'm getting kind of burnt out on the whole Hugo/The Artist/Cabin "movies about movies" thing.

suidavyvan eht nioj (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

Like Evil Dead IN ITSELF was kind of a winking parody of George Romero and Three Stooges, and now this runs THAT whole concept through a meta-mirror. And the whole "five archetypes" thing is basically a Wes-Craven-on-adderal concept for onion/tvtropers to lustily update their databases. Again, this movie was real fun and hilarious, but like all pop culture is slowly leaning towards towards a specific type of retromania that basically says "ayo-I-read-a-lot-of-wikipedia." Its kind of starting to bum me out, but I guess the alternative is mumblecore idk

suidavyvan eht nioj (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

also, like, quibbling over whether something is "horror" or "comedy" is the stupidest thing in the universe. Like gangsta rap, pretty much 90% of it is supposed to be fun/funny.

suidavyvan eht nioj (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

like making an argument over whether a movie is "actually scary" is as stupid as 14 year old white kids in Iowa feeling hard because Mobb Deep said they'll stab your brain with your nose bone.

suidavyvan eht nioj (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

hey guys i just watched this movie

suidavyvan eht nioj (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 28 April 2012 21:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

i wonder if there is a film director out there that was getting ready to spend the next 2 years of his life on his new project, a revamp of the merman monster, that just saw the cabin in the woods and just felt burned ;_;

Sébastien, Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

loll

johnny crunch, Saturday, 28 April 2012 22:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Most fun I've had in the cinema in years. A poll of monsters from this would be cool.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Sunday, 29 April 2012 02:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Awesome. This & Avengers last night back to back.

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Friday, 25 May 2012 05:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

Kinda disturbed by some of the shots from the monitors, like all the little dudes holding a guy down and one of them vomiting toxic whatever into his face.

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Friday, 25 May 2012 06:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/55082

Quint: I didn’t even notice… That was my second time watching the movie last night and I didn’t even notice the unicorn tapestry that you mentioned during the Q&A.

Drew Goddard: It’s down there! There’s a lot down there that requires some freeze-framing.

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Friday, 25 May 2012 07:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

fun read

Nhex, Friday, 25 May 2012 13:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

Need to see this again, and drag more people along

Sorta wish the Shaggy-ness of the shaggy-haired stoner werent quite telegraphed so loudly, but what are you gunna do?

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Friday, 25 May 2012 23:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

aside from the haircut and the superbong, i didn't really thing the shaggy reference was too heavy handed -- he makes a pretty nihilistic shaggy! the only other point of comparison i can see is that shag & scoob are usually the ones who fall down the trapdoor directly into the monster's lair while the rest of the gang is still puzzling over clues

judas, a homo (elmo argonaut), Saturday, 26 May 2012 14:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

No joke, that is one of the worst, high school level interviews I've read in ages. Aside from your quoted unicorn bit there, there is virtually nothing in there.

Q: I liked your movie a lot.
A: Thanks!
Q: Were you worried you would make a movie no one would like?
A: Not really. We tried to make it as un-not likable as possible.
Q: Well, it worked!
A: Thanks!
Q: Do you like horror movies?
A: I do!
Q: What is your favorite horror movie?
A: I like all of them!
Q: Did you like your own horror movie a lot!
A: I did! And I hope others do, to.
Q: Well, judging by the packed audience at the screening I was probably in some way at least loosely affiliated with, packed with hardcore geeks, Whedon fans and horror movie buffs, all stoned, I think you've got a big hit on your hands!
A: Thanks!
Q: What's next for you?
A: Another movie!
Q: Sweet!
A: Awesome.
Q: Thanks.
A: No, thank you!
Q: Is there anything I should look out for when I see this for the fifth time?
A: Yeah, all sorts of stuff. Did you see the werewolf?
Q: Yeah! It was awesome!
A: Thanks!
Q: Was it real?
A: No.
Q: Awesome!
A: Thanks!

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 26 May 2012 15:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's Ain't It Cool News. I don't think anyone there's gotten any smarter despite it being 2012, you know?

Brony! Broni! Broné! (Phil D.), Saturday, 26 May 2012 15:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's part of their stupid charm, tbh

Nhex, Saturday, 26 May 2012 15:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol @ "fun read"

rock the swagon and g.o.a.t. it (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 26 May 2012 15:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Even if someone sucked 15 years ago, you'd think there'd be some learning curve. Then again, maybe the guys with half a brain at that site all jumped ship eons ago.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 26 May 2012 15:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Drew Goddard: Right.

Quint: And the shit gets real.

Drew Goddard: Shit definitely gets real! (laughs)

Hungry4Ass, Saturday, 26 May 2012 15:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 26 May 2012 15:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

that said theres some good interviews on there sometimes. like this soderbergh one http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51119

Hungry4Ass, Saturday, 26 May 2012 15:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

I interviewed DG and ... dude's just not easy to get much out of. By the end of the interview, I was asking him questions like, "What do you think Joss Whedon would say about this?"

Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Saturday, 26 May 2012 16:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

it is the latter

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Monday, 28 May 2012 16:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^^

Brony! Broni! Broné! (Phil D.), Monday, 28 May 2012 16:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

that article was fun to read, this is exactly what the internet is for!

Nhex, Monday, 28 May 2012 18:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

i love how paragraphs like this mix in both accurate observations and glaring errors:

How do the items in the cellar reflect each of the characters? The necklace on the bridal gown is feminine and that’s what Jules tries to be, hence, dying her hair blond, but she's also hoping that Curt will marry her; Dana was going to take books to the cabin, so she goes for the book, the diary; Curt was playing football, so he goes for the round object that looks like a ball; Holden is there to get hooked up with Dana so that’s why he opens the jewelry box (a reference to the sexual act with her) and the ballerina refers to the awkward “mating dance” Holden and Dana are doing; Marty goes for the reels of film (he also reads the book about Nemo, after the Pixar film) so he’s always trying to get a “frame of reference” for something and that’s why he went for the movies (possibly also because of the drug culture depicted in the films, but more likely, because Marty has been feeling like something’s strange, as if they are in a horror film and that’s why he’s mentally referencing movies).

lol Nemo

Nhex, Monday, 28 May 2012 18:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, there's a vibe in there like a Senior AP English student or some freshman lit.crit major trying to do some major contextual analysis and failing magnificently.

It's akin to the speech and subequent bike jump scene in the film.

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Monday, 28 May 2012 19:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also, did any anybody else notice that this flick not only makes you laugh, but also full-on _cackle_?

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Monday, 28 May 2012 19:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

both times when i saw this in the theater people seemed too afraid to really bust a gut, making me and my friends look like total maniacs. but the movie IS that funny! i mean c'mon, the Ring parody thing alone

Nhex, Monday, 28 May 2012 19:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Exactly. And there are parts where I was just cackling evilly at how far the flick was willing to go and what was about to happen.

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Monday, 28 May 2012 19:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Holden is there to get hooked up with Dana so that’s why he opens the jewelry box (a reference to the sexual act with her) and the ballerina refers to the awkward “mating dance” Holden and Dana are doing; Marty goes for the reels of film (he also reads the book about Nemo, after the Pixar film) so he’s always trying to get a “frame of reference” for something and that’s why he went for the movies (possibly also because of the drug culture depicted in the films, but more likely, because Marty has been feeling like something’s strange, as if they are in a horror film and that’s why he’s mentally referencing movies).

every aspect of this is so fucking stupid and nonsensical that it actually makes me angry. i couldn't finish reading the article, though i did plow through the bulk of it.

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Monday, 28 May 2012 19:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

this is worse:

So if Curt has some good in him, why doesn't he survive the jump with his bike? There's an invisible boundary between dating and being married to someone, and the grid symbolizes that invisible boundary. Curt "made the jump" with Jules from boyfriend to husband without them being married, so even though, as Curt tells Holden, he's jumped a lot further with his bike in the past, he doesn't have the moral strength to overcome the power of the grid that is holding him back morally. In the sacrificial pictures, the athlete that Curt fulfills is shown with a spear, and that spear is the phallic symbol: athletes have to have good bodies to compete, the problem is, the body becomes their whole being (in art and stereotypes of them) and they then look at others as being only bodies as well, including Jules.

[Picture of the survivors outside the RV, looking across the gulf to freedom, just prior to Curt's failed motorcycle jump]

At this point pictured above, they have lost Jules and they think they have lost Marty. They were trying to make it out of the grid and almost succeeded when a "tunnel avalanche" caused by the control room makes it impossible to pass, and Curt, driving the mobile home rambler, quickly thinks and steps on the gas, backing out all the way out of the tunnel in reverse; pretty impressive driving. It symbolizes the unconscious thinking Curt has been doing because going into the tunnel (since Curt is driving) easily symbolizes the sexual act, and going in reverse means that he's wishing to undo what he and Jules had been doing because he realizes now that's why she died. The sheer rocks they are surrounded by? The "hardness of heart" that sin causes and is caused by sin.


gah! stop thinking!

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Monday, 28 May 2012 19:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

It kind of makes you want to hit them over the head with a box of scare quotes.

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Monday, 28 May 2012 19:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

fyi: found this review whilst googling "husband bulge"

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Monday, 28 May 2012 19:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

gah! stop thinking!

― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer)

just too perfect

Mordy, Monday, 28 May 2012 23:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

it was a gift

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 01:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

happy b-day to me!

Mordy, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 01:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 02:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

got you a gift!

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 06:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Note: it took me way, WAAAAY to damn long to find a shot of that

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 06:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

and it's a deauxzy

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 06:32 (2 years ago) Permalink


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