GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

Downton Abbey is like the epitome of campy contrivance. But I liked how (season one) rolled out.

Entourage, iirc, was about meditative self-reflection and the push/pull of independence and autonomy vs. the promise of wealth and reward, complicated by the loss/confusion of self amidst the things we own and buy. It's totally existential, dude. It's also, like, post-feminist. Or something.

true enough. that time Drama and Turtle both took on that chick at sundance and 'crossed swords' was a deeply moving examination about sexuality and identity.

i was always v mystified re entourage, like it didnt have a plot

the anti-plots of drama trying to get a macguffin like "a trucker hat that will make me look younger" got pretty hilarious though

some guy i know from college wrote some pretty nasty sexist stuff about this show on my fb feed (and then used the racist twitter controversy as an excuse to dump on Lena and everyone involved in the show). i was gonna argue with him, but i just unfriended him. anyway, he constantly posts this annoying ra-ra Community posts so it wasn't a huge loss.

I have hated the girl who created the HBO series "Girls" the second I found out she existed. The revelation that she and everyone she knows are horrible racist only confirms what I have know for years: My snap judgements of people are almost always right.

i may have overreacted. idk.

there is never not a good reason to defriend somebody

the 2nd season of entourage was pretty entertaining.

Was that aquaman? I think I quit after that.

yeah, that was Aquaman. I think that season was followed up with the episode "Aquamom", an intense 30 minutes of high-pressure balancing acts when Vince had to try to get his mother on a plane to go to the Aquaman premiere with him...and he did.

Girls would should be better if the characters had clever nicknames like "drama" and "turtle"

why do you keep harping on that like anybody is actually saying "entourage roolz, girls droolz"

sorry, just have some irrational beef with entourage

mh drama

can my fiesta name be "beef"

I mean, my entourage name

to turn it back to Girls/girls, pop-culture watcher and girl Tavi has some important, interesting things to say about Girls and being a girl and representations of girls/women:
http://youtu.be/6osiBvQ-RRg

Tavi lives down the street from me...with her parents!!!! It's like a plot from Girls, but in high school. And, you know, she's successful and stuff.

ok

bright kid there

she is remarkable

was serious about everyone on Entourage hating their life - aside from the last-30-seconds deus ex machina, everyone on that show seems miserable. Loveless, aimless, addicted to drugs, etc..

I want to be cynical about a teen fashion blogger who gets people to invest in an online mag etc, but Tavi is pretty awesome

This thread has 1744 posts?!

hating your life doesn't mean it can't be interesting or that it can't be fulfilling in some ways

Man, I thought those bros had it all. Bummer.

*reconsiders priorities*

haha, funny AV Club question...

AVC: There’s a scene in the third episode of Girls where Hannah is sitting there and trying to compose a tweet and keeps deleting it because she’s not happy with what it says. It’s almost like voiceover or a musical number, where you can express emotions more directly and people will buy what’s going on.

LD: That’s such a great analogy, because it is. It’s like the moment in episode three, when Hannah tweets out her feelings about her gay boyfriend, her HPV. That was a moment when her Twitter allows her to really state her perspective on what’s just happened in the way that a facial expression would be more ambiguous. You’re totally right. That is its function....

http://www.avclub.com/articles/lena-dunham,69373/

I was definitely into personal blogs when I was younger.

Good interview.

She sounds like a nice, smart person.

Except that I have to tell you that going to a party where everybody is dressed as a sexy cat and you’re dressed as Louis is not… You feel better in your home than you do when you get to the party.

AVC: What do you see as the arc of season one, without spoiling, obviously?

LD: I think for each of the characters it’s different. I think for all of the girls, they’re getting further away from college and feeling more of a panic about establishing their place in the world. I feel as though it’s Marnie figuring out that she can’t control the world—she needs to loosen up and will be happier in doing so. Shoshanna’s attempt to figure out how to have sex and what that even means, whether that’s going to make her a fully formed person. And Hannah starts out the season with this assumption that the world is just going to provide for her, and is then left grappling with that realization and realizes also that if she doesn’t put in the work as a friend, as a writer, as a girlfriend, she’s not going to get back the results she needs, but of course she’s not self-aware enough to totally see that. And then Jessa, it’s sort of like, what is behind a free spirit? What is behind that person who acts as though they can float through the world comfortably? So there’s those personal character arcs and then all together just the drum of, “Oh, there’s some urgency to us figuring out what we have to do next.”

just a reminder to anyone who hasn't seen it yet that Tiny Furniture is on Sundance Channel tnite @ 8

also in weird title synergy apparently they have a new series called Push Girls about women who use wheelchairs

i don't know if it's sundance or my tv but the volume on this is totally fucked :(

its prob cause of people dancing on the sun or w/e

http://images.artistdirect.com/Images/artd/amg/music/bio/583722_smashmouth2_200x200.jpg
"fuck i care about your cable"

I thought this was really good.

altho lol LCD Soundsystem and Robyn in one ep is kind of baiting

and Zosia Mamet being the insane polar opposite of her Mad Men character continues to throw me.

This show is so fucking good

yeah i am kind of loving it. i lol'ed a number of times tonight.

going to bookmark this thread now that the initial froth of concern has abated

concern froth is the second-worst kind of froth

http://www.desmogblog.com/sites/beta.desmogblog.com/files/blogimages/rick_santorum_official_photo.jpg

that was some great tv

from the quiddities thread for those that don't read it:
http://thoughtcatalog.com/2012/witnessing-a-change-in-williamsburg-brooklyn/

reading that kind of thing makes me needlessly frustrated, but doesn't everyone deserve their own elegy? i don't know why this particular one should tick me off.

renewed.

I'm a little surprised by how much I agree with Gawker's take. Although I think the show (like Tiny Furniture) is well-made and shows Lena Dunham to be talented both as a director and as a chronicler of a very particular milieu, I'm undecided as to whether it is a show by or about narcissistic and deeply-regressive Girls (or whether it's both). And also undecided if my finding this to be a vaguely unpleasant show filled with repellent characters is just an M.P.

whoa, if anyone's even close to truly narcissistic on the show, so far it's the guys