nomination and discussion thread for possible top 100 electronic dance tracks of the 00s

I'll nominate the following from the list posted above:

Lasgo - Something
IIO - Rapture

Also:

Peter Visti - Dolly
Yelle - A Cause des Garcons (tepr remix)

*waits for Durr Durr Durr to appear and ban the Rapture*

Yeah and for that reason I suspect it's going to skew towards big anthems but that was probably going to be the case anyway.

― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Thursday, 26 April 2012 11:09 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

more than most kinds of music it makes no sense for this tho. have enjoyed the introductory bits of this thread but can't see myself voting now, don't feel like i've got a rubric for doing so

― seapunk run. run punk run! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 April 2012

there's no way i'm voting - don't vote in polls anyway but the idea of a "best of" i really don't identify with - that idea of "these are the things you should hear" is just kinda alien to me, and yeah the list will just end with booka shade and mouth to mouth near the top when be honest with yourself when was the last time you played either

Petar Dundov - Oasis

voting is fun, especially if you don't dwell on it to the point where it doesn't make sense, just go with whatever impulse you have when you look at the list of nominees. i find it weird that people have enough time to read the thread and wring their hands about the whole process but not enough to just vote in the damn thing so we have some interesting results for people to argue about. i have no idea what the lurker factor will be like on this poll, i'm so confused about ilx-lurker-electro-taste after Autechre and Mouse on Mars won those other weird polls.

I'm not too bothered about voting or seeing how the voting plays out. I am interested in seeing nominations. Discovering new music and rediscovering music that I haven't heard for a while is what I'm here for. I think dance music is quite unique because people tend to get into it fairly intensely and then fall out of love with it. Just my theory maybe but people attach the music to going out clubbing and lose interest when they slow down going out. Nominations can represent eras.

oh man nv and coal aren't voting??

this poll is ruined for me

:-(

lol

i'm not dismissing the poll i just will never have any sane way of voting

Oh wait maybe you meant "Tell Me"?

― Tim F

^^ yes. my bad :/

Excepting maybe Derrick May and Juan Atkins he's as heralded as it's possible to be for a dance producer who has never had any kind of populist success and doesn't actually hold any appeal from a pop/rock perspective.

^^ and maybe...carl craig?

Hot Chip - One Pure Thought (Supermayer Remix)
Le Tigre - Deceptacon (DFA Rmx)
Shocking Pinks - Cutout (Lee Douglas Remix)
!!! - Yadnus (Still Going to the Roadhouse Mix)

*dodges durr durr durr*

carl craig and the shark parted company a long time ago

Excepting maybe Derrick May and Juan Atkins he's as heralded as it's possible to be for a dance producer who has never had any kind of populist success and doesn't actually hold any appeal from a pop/rock perspective.

^^ and maybe...carl craig?

afaict, none have a thorough, well-curated career overview compilation available. seems like craig's recent sessions remix collection for !K7's about as close as it comes. half surprised that soul jazz or a similar label hasn't undertaken something like this - for moodymann at least.

the 20 Years Metroplex comp is a reasonable overview of Juan Atkins' first 2 decades but nuts to a thorough well-curated etc tbh

on a serious note and fwiw i don't really understand NV's reasons for not voting.

my criteria for voting is the same as it would be for any other poll - assuming i could only take 50 of these tracks on an ipod to a desert island, which 50 would i take? a lot of stuff on this list i probably wouldn't listen to in any context other than a mix (and a lot of these i don't like and would probably never listen to)

but the 50 on my shortlist i have certainly listened to, by themselves, definitely more or as much as any other individual song from any song-oriented genre i like

(from the 00s)

you should just vote for the songs that will annoy that greatest amount of ppl

should they place

tbh when there's a subject i'm into i forget for a while why i rarely vote in polls which is that mostly i don't think in terms of lists and charts. but listening back to stuff for this particular poll i cdn't separate a lot of the individual tracks from the contexts in which i'd hear them - which is true of a lot of music for me anyway so - it just felt nonsensical to say "this is my favourite" when i'm much more a "this here right now is my favourite" listener. and for some reason picking "what i like right now" feels wronger for dance music because i feel it as much more of a continuum - i think i'd find it easier to pick favourite albums because they feel more monolithic and self-contained.

as i say, none of this is a critique of the poll process, the run down and the left-field choices are all interesting to me. it's more something i discovered about how i felt about dance music - and i ought to add as a predominantly armchair listener for the span of this poll - while i was thinking about what to vote for.

"this here right now is my favourite"

how i feel about mixing also..

think moody would be a bit funny about licensing his tracks for comps like that, did everyone see the rbma academy interview? i'm sure he spoke about that stuff in there. also his "hit" albums, kind of function like retrospectives anyway.

anyway, gonna vote in this poll, gonna vote for 50 things i really like.

the 20 Years Metroplex comp is a reasonable overview of Juan Atkins' first 2 decades but nuts to a thorough well-curated etc tbh

good point, missed that. a well-chosen two disc comp is thorough enough for my purposes, and that one looks great. oop though, and seems to have had pretty low visibility outside the established scene?

there are definitely some tracks on this poll that have that "this here right now is my favorite" vibe - particularly a lot of the post-2010 stuff and post-dubstep stuff seems to me like something i may not be into five or six years down the line (cf 2step, most of which, though not all of which, i used to consume w/ a passion but which now mostly sounds badly dated and fluffy to my ears)

i'm mostly voting for things i've been listening to for years and years without getting tired of them, stuff like "live goes on" and "miura" and "poney pt 1" and "r&b drunkie" which just never seem old and never leave my ipod and always put a huge grin on my face even though it's been five or ten years since i first heard them

think moody would be a bit funny about licensing his tracks for comps like that, did everyone see the rbma academy interview? i'm sure he spoke about that stuff in there.

yeah, i wondered about that. just bugs me on "discovering" MM that so many of the tracks that first caught my ear aren't officially available anywhere.

xxp to cntndrsr

snark aside i guess what wd be the point of trying to push Juan Atkins to people outside of the "established scene"? it's a pretty big scene at this point. and Tresor was a big label within those terms.

re: 2step i mean that not all of it sounds dated to me - smokin' beats "dreams" never gets old! but a lot of the stuff i used to really like - like ed case and todd edwards - i basically can't listen to anymore.

weirdly enough speed garage sounds as fresh to me as it ever did.

i find some genres go in and out of sounding dated, depends on contextual stuff in the present? even the most of its moment synth sound sometimes gets reinvigorated by a new unforeseen connection.

^^ <3 that DN

xp to contenderizer

he does super short runs and loads of different versions of the same track afaik. just to fuck with you, haha

man, the first time i heard moodymann i was taking some records over to a friends house in a bit of a shit part of leeds, i got mugged and beat up. records stolen and the dude i was going to see (c0mfy pau1, might post/read here, get in touch) gave me some pain relief and i sat back and closed my eyes and that beat on runaway was pulsing though my swollen face and it was a pretty awesome listening experience tbh

re: 2step i mean that not all of it sounds dated to me - smokin' beats "dreams" never gets old! but a lot of the stuff i used to really like - like ed case and todd edwards - i basically can't listen to anymore.

weirdly enough speed garage sounds as fresh to me as it ever did.

― the late great, Thursday, 26 April 2012

lotta speed garage sounds real fresh right now

also - smokin beats - jazz house is dope as fuck

armand's spin spin sugar mix is definitely going to be high on my 90s poll ballot

actually only heard this for first time recently but so good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoIjWsRRgAU

i actually prefer smokin beats under the zoom + dbx moniker - i like the zoom + dbx remix of jazz house more than the OG, and their mix of "something in your eyes" is kinda all-time for me

those super-ruff square wave basslines they come up with are so addictive to me

snark aside i guess what wd be the point of trying to push Juan Atkins to people outside of the "established scene"? it's a pretty big scene at this point. and Tresor was a big label within those terms.

well, a point made by several in this thread is that EDM is a genre that exists almost entirely in a specific context: dance clubs. the music resides largely on minimally packaged 12" singles produced for DJs, these records often issued in limited quantities by obscure labels and carried by shops that cater almost exclusively to DJs and dedicated fans of the scene. the albums that represent the scene both inside and out are mixtapes more often than not. artists release material under a variety of different names, and even the biggest tracks are as likely to be known as remixes as they are in their original form. this makes the music rather inaccessible to potential fans who aren't part of the scene.

my attitude is that all music deserves to be heard by as many people as might be interested in it. and that outside club culture, "thorough, well-curated" career overview collections are a good way to expose interesting & important artists to curious would-be fans.

all the best records aren't really by name people tho

no, but some of the name people made good records

there's a thread to be had about the pros and cons of inaccessability but i'm not gonna do it here.

given the general tone of this thread, i knew that was coming ;)

okay i sketched out what my objections are here:

should everything be commercially available?

the juan maclean - tito's way (reverso 68 mix)
justus kohncke - elan
rubies - i feel electric (max essa remix)
siobhan donnaghy - don't give it up(c2 remix)
alter ego - gary (c2 remix)
my my - swiss on rye
dj hell - je regrette everything (superpitcher mix)

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yeah, i know. no hits, no mainstream visibility. still surprised, cuz this stuff seems very accessible to me.

should also be noted that dude is sort of a recluse and doesn't exactly jump at the opportunity to work with anyone.

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― the late great, Thursday, 26 April 2012 19:20 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i ctrl/f'd. sincere apologies if i replicated something, 'tis a big thread.

what did i replicate anyway?

oh whoops my bad it was tiga's remix of gary posted upthread!

:-(

i knew it! apology accepted ;)

feel for you compiling this all btw.

eh i think EDB's going to do that for me

;-)