The Band - Music from Big Pink poll

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It's incredible how much the law of diminishing returns kicks in. "Stage Fright" is pretty good, "Cahoots" has its moments. The rest are kind of erratic at best, which is pretty amazing, given the calibre of the players involved, but they all have their moments as well.

Yeah it might be about time that I gave Cahoots another chance. Most of their later work I've just skimmed through on spotify/youtube etc and not really returned to. I do have Stage Fright, but despite there being some excellent songs on there - Time To Kill, The Rumor, Shape I'm In - I don't often feel compelled to put it on (again esp in comparison to the first 2 albums).

Mr Andy M, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 19:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also re the Festival Express movie I think I actually prefer the (slightly jauntier) version of Long Black Veil on there to the album cut:

NB tho I'm not familiar with the og recording of LBV that Shakey alludes to upthread. Pretty amazing song still, the lyrics are sort of the perfect condensed story.

Mr Andy M, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 19:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

worth getting familiar w/

bear, bear, bear, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 20:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Seconded. If anything Shut Up and Get On the Plane > Greenville to Baton Rouge > Angels and Fuselage.

Absofuckinglutely.

pplains, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 20:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

that woodstock clip Bee OK posted is kind of scary. Or at least I imagine it must've been scary for the Band -- just blackness out there, but knowing there are like 300,000 people in the crowd.

tylerw, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 20:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

avoiding the obv 'chest fever' is really fukkn dope

Lamp, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 20:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh man i take ppl's point I GUESS abt the slow steady decline in the band's songwriting/albs (after the peak of #2 imho) but some of the bonus/outtakes on the cd version of big pink point to the incredibly fecundity of their 'early' period - i mean, to leave off 'Katie's Been Gone', w/ another heartbreakingly gorgeous manuel vocal, is just criminal! and the fact that the only surviving version of Ferdinand the Imposter is v. sonically imperfect is a gddamm crime!

not enough for lonesome suzie on this thread, tho :-(

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

enough LOVE

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's one of those cases of "you have your whole life to make your first album and six months to make your second," I think. The Band had a huge backlog, and once they caught up with it it was a struggle to come up with new stuff on par with their peak (see also; Cheap Trick, Van Halen). If anything, the key to the evolution of, say, the Stones and Beatles is that they started with a bunch of covers and worked their way up from there. Plus, the Band stopped living together, in Big Pink or on the road, and according to Levon they had trouble recapturing that vibe when they tried to recreate it in L.A.

It's amazing, by way, how much of an impression the Band made on the Brits, with group after group trying to glom onto their shambling Americana vibe vibe. I mean, the Beatles and Eric Clapton are two of the last acts I think of what I think of the Band. but they were both uber-besoted.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

(sorry for the typos)

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

otm about "ferdinand" -- always loved that little fragment and wish there was a better version!

tylerw, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 00:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

this thread took off, i thought it was going to be like The Band poll and get no love.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 02:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

well, not no love but really there was not a lot of discussion like this thread has produced.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 02:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

ok finally voted. "in a station." there are obviously plenty of towering songs on this record, but right now, in a station is the one i want to hear on repeat. karen dalton's version is nice too.

tylerw, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 20:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

just heard Dalton's version for the first time last week. It's lovely

Number None, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 21:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, pretty different interpretation, but gets to the heart of the song. I dunno, I think that song (and "whispering pines" too) gets to a kind of dreamlike americana thing that robbie robertson couldn't quite nail on his own. robertson's more of a novelist, whereas manuel is like an impressionistic painter. or something!

tylerw, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 21:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like that take

Number None, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 21:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

listening to this album again this week, i was struck by one thing -- what did these songs sound like when Robertson presented them to the rest of the Band? Seems like there's never been, like, a solo demo of "The Weight" that's come out on bootleg or otherwise. Maybe that sort of thing doesn't exist.

tylerw, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 21:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 26 April 2012 00:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Voted for "Caledonia Mission" but almost voted for "To Kingdom Come"

Stars on 45 Fell on Alabama (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 26 April 2012 01:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

"To Kingdom Come" wuz robbed, Rick Danko's bass playing on it is fantastic

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'll admit to being one of the people who's obsessed with The Band's first two albums but rarely feels the need to explore very far into their later work.

Same here, pretty much, even though "Stage Fright" itself is possibly my favourite song by them. There are some great songs on the other albums and they always play and sing immaculately and I can never think of an occasion when they embarrass themselves but, I don't know, the tunes just aren't there

Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 14:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

stage fright is pretty solid through and through, tho it doesn't have as many classics. moondog matinee is a fun record, too. cahoots has always bored me.

tylerw, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, Moondog Matinee is fun, and with a lot of great singing by Richard at his best. Also the extra lyrics to "Mystery Train"!

Stumpy Joe's Cafe (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 June 2012 16:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

The bonus tracks on the Moondog cd are quite something--mostly Levon numbers plus a runthrough of "Endless Highway" w/Manuel singing and playing a great piano lead.

Electro-Shock Rory (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 22 June 2012 16:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wait, I'm tripping: the Manuel "Endless Highway" is on the Cahoots reissue. Danko sings the Moondog version, which originally was on the Watkins Glen album with dubbed-in audience noise.

Electro-Shock Rory (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 22 June 2012 17:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Weight would be my favorite song ever if I had a goddamn clue what the lyrics were about.

Everything You Like Sucks, Friday, 22 June 2012 18:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

lyrics to the weight are like steinbeck's cannery row reproduced in miniature imo

carly rae (flopson), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Thought they were a picture of a dreamscape inspired by Luis Buñuel's Exterminating Angel

Stumpy Joe's Cafe (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 June 2012 19:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's just imo; i've read that but i've never seen the film but i have read cannery row

carly rae (flopson), Friday, 22 June 2012 20:34 (2 years ago) Permalink


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