rolling 2012 UKG interzone bubblers thread

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Tim F, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 18:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

i always try to bookmark these songs in my mind to hear when they come out and then forget them by the time they do

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 18:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

i mean the swindle ones in this case, not particularly excited about joe goddard's work

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 18:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

The CRST guys are pretty wicked.

http://soundcloud.com/theratcatcher/nightlife-cat003

Kinda suprised Disclosure are getting plays by him they sound like a bad generic post-dubstep impressions to me.

jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 20:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah check the P Jam mix he did for us: http://www.sonicrouter.com/2012/02/p-jam-sonic-router-x-uncle-albert-mix/ its full of these vibes.

jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 20:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hypnosis by Illmana

http://boomkat.com/downloads/469521-illmana-menace-ep

JG - Skip

jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 20:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

moullet, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Mistamen

jimitheexploder, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

jimitheexploder, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

speaking of mista men, this remix of shox's tombstone is amazing:

matt damon & the jb's (the anephric project), Saturday, 5 May 2012 19:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think this might be my new favorite thread.

MikoMcha, Saturday, 5 May 2012 19:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

I Can't Wait by Brackles

http://www.redeyerecords.co.uk/asp/view_product.asp?id=30555

jimitheexploder, Saturday, 5 May 2012 20:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

speaking of which, the brackles album is pretty great.

matt damon & the jb's (the anephric project), Saturday, 5 May 2012 20:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've not heard it yet, but I'm looking forward to it.

Looking forward to this coming out too.

http://soundcloud.com/twoplates/ruby-lee-ryder-terror-danjah

jimitheexploder, Saturday, 5 May 2012 20:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Mista Men

1. Mella Dee - The Way It Was (Unreleased)
2. Loki Boi - One House (MIsta Men's Mr Bumps House Remix) (Young Gunz)
3. Mista Men - Relentless (Unreleased)
4. Mella Dee - Confetti (Unreleased)
5. Mista Men - Hard Drive (Unknown To The Unknown)
6. Mista Men - Babycham (Greenmoney)
7. Mella Dee - Gourmet (Unreleased)
8. Mista Men - Forget U (Unknown To The Unknown)
9. Palace - Mandy (Mista Men Up Norf Mix) (Unknown To The Unknown)
10. Mista Men & Clientele - Juice (Unreleased)
11. Mella Dee & Squarehead - Untitled (Unreleased)
12. Mista Men - Lambrini (Unknown To The Unknown)
13. Mista Men Ft Detboi - I Move Closer (Deep Thrills)

http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/meet-mista-men.html

jimitheexploder, Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

They flag up some sweet bumpy tracks.

jimitheexploder, Thursday, 17 May 2012 15:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

CRST where on this week

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01hjmkp#segments

jimitheexploder, Sunday, 20 May 2012 08:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

Mz Bratt ft Donae'o - Rocket Launcher:

Tim F, Sunday, 20 May 2012 10:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

No sleeping.

Tim F, Sunday, 20 May 2012 22:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

I love "Flow." I knew I'd find something I like on this thread. Still sifting through things.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 21 May 2012 01:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

mz bratt is kind of astounding "rocket launcher" huh

can't cosign the jungle-revival beat at all though

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 June 2012 11:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

it sounds like it's actually literally from the 90s

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 June 2012 11:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

and?

Mz Bratt over desi beats...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00tjpss

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 June 2012 10:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

this:

...and the remix pack is wonderful. The R1 Ryders remix, in particular, is amazing. Very rush-y.

matt damon & the jb's (the anephric project), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 13:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

Just how good can Disclosure get????

Tim F, Friday, 29 June 2012 17:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

They're getting better but I still think they have a way to go before they step out of just being another post-dubstep impersonator, this one sounds like an old fantastic mr fox remix of diffrent letrix which would have been alright in 09 or something but now sounds kinda dated to me. Its nice and slick, production is good, but the beats and ideas are so generic it just doesn't stick with me. Plus they're really bad at cut up vocals. Kinda suprised you dig it didn't think you where into that stright up post-dubstep vibe.

jimitheexploder, Friday, 29 June 2012 20:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

jimitheexploder, Friday, 29 June 2012 20:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Fantastic Mr Fox is good at beats but never had any interest in making pop tunes. One of my annoyances about future garage and a lot of post-dubstep copping from 2-step was always how it wanted to suck the sonic ideas out of it while carefully extracting the pop quotient and leaving it on the side of the plate.

Tim F, Friday, 29 June 2012 22:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

And more generally it's funny that you complain "this is so 2009" rather than "this is so 1999".

Tim F, Friday, 29 June 2012 22:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Fantastic Mr Fox is good at beats but never had any interest in making pop tunes.

don't think this is true at all!

40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 29 June 2012 23:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

I suppose it depends on whether and how you distinguish between "features vocals" and "pop".

Tim F, Saturday, 30 June 2012 00:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

right, i think some of his instrumentals are the most overtly pop (down to the chord changes & structure, some of them even have a bridge!).

40oz of tears (Jordan), Saturday, 30 June 2012 00:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

I dunno I don't hear anything pop in Disclosure no more or less so than anyone like Fantastic Mr Fox, Joy Orbison, Bashmore, etc bar the fact they get play on more mainstream radio sometimes, but then its not something that crosses my mind much in general not much of a pop guy myself. Its defo more 09 post-dubstep influenced, sounds nothing like 99 garage to me.

jimitheexploder, Saturday, 30 June 2012 05:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Loving everything I've heard from Disclosure, was never a fan of Orbison or Bashmore bar Battle For Middle You (ergh but what a terrible title). Not sure why this is the case either.

I'm checking out Fantastic Mr Fox now and it sounds completely different to me, at least the Evelyn EP and Sketches remind me at times of Mount Kimbie, feels kind of busy and more informed by electronica in general. Which tracks should I be listening to here?

MikoMcha, Saturday, 30 June 2012 07:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

One of my annoyances about future garage and a lot of post-dubstep copping from 2-step was always how it wanted to suck the sonic ideas out of it while carefully extracting the pop quotient and leaving it on the side of the plate.

totally agree - "pop" is really a dirty word to a lot of these people, you feel

bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Saturday, 30 June 2012 07:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think it's okay for music to not be pop music

the late great, Saturday, 30 June 2012 08:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

sure but it's not okay for music to be completely dry and boring

bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Saturday, 30 June 2012 08:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

To be clear, i'm not saying all 2-steppy post-dubstep other than Disclosure is dry and boring, more that it seems kinda self-evident to me why this particular stuff gets played by DJ Q and the like whereas Fantastic Mr Fox, Joy Orbison, Damu etc. (all of whom I think are excellent at times, esp. Damu - and a good example of how you can by hypercolourful and songful but not really pop in the same way) do not.

"Pop" isn't even quite the word for it - it's more a sort of bounciness and bubbliness that tunes either have or they don't.

It hardly surprises me that jimi doesn't hear the distinctions I'm hearing - we've had similar divisions before where I see a real faultline between juiciness and studiousness and he doesn't at all and seems to focus more on technical/arrangement similarities and distinctions (hope I'm not misrepresenting you jimi).

Tim F, Saturday, 30 June 2012 08:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

I mean, that distinction is one of the reasons I started this thread as distinct from just posting to rolling dance partisans.

Tim F, Saturday, 30 June 2012 08:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Nah we defo hear things diffrently its why I like coming on here to see whats going down.

Theres a load of crossover in this and the partisans stuff anyway for me at least, I mean I've been repping for CRST, Mista Men etc for years. Just with Disclosure I don't feel like they really fit here and really do in the partisans thread. I find them a bit dry and boring. But then I lean toward more of the chunky swung bits and skipy grime/bassline with Q anyway. Just thought it was kind of interesting where the Disclosure love is coming from in this kinda scene. To me it seems like an odd fit.

Agreed with Damu he's ace. One of the only guys doing this hypercoloured sound I'm really feeling at the mo. But then he sounds pretty diffrent I get more of a house lean to Disclosure.

No Disclosure track has jumped out at me yet they don't feel like they've founds their feet at all yet. They sound to me like any old soundcloud producer playing at stright up post-dubstep tropes at the moment, which there are so many of. I mean why do I need to hear a track of theirs when bits like them where done well not so long ago and they're not adding to it yet. I dunno if they'd stand out at all a few years ago when this kinda stuff was at its peak. Maybe they'll grow into a vibe of their own a bit in the future mind.

jimitheexploder, Saturday, 30 June 2012 09:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

I completely understand this connection, between post-dubstep and Disclosure, of course. I find them way more vibey, aimed right at the dancefloor, rather than continuously foregrounding production tricks that may or may not add something extra to a track as dance music. Plus Disclosure really have this nice influence from UKG that feels like a genuine influence, rather than nostalgia or something mashed together with all kinds of other UK dance genres.

MikoMcha, Saturday, 30 June 2012 10:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

I hear more of a house vibe than a UKG one. There is lots of very busy not very dance floory post-dubstep tho yeah Fantastic Mr Fox does verg on the busy, there is something more simple about Disclosure thats why I'd put them closer to older Joy Orbison or some Julio Bashmore for the most part, even Huxley or Dusky. Its that shiny tech house vibe with a bit more bass and a slight swing. But I wouldn't go as far as to say they're swung/skippy enough to be compared to garage.

jimitheexploder, Saturday, 30 June 2012 10:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

i mean that's basically what keeps me from posting on this thread about stuff i like like pattern and well rounded, it's basically just bouncy tech house w some skippy dan bell influence and some skippy uk influence but it's really a stretch to call it anything but house

the late great, Saturday, 30 June 2012 10:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

There seems to be a lot of it about at the moment. The other weekend at Glade Festival I heard Appleblim, Mosca, Addison Groove all do pretty much stright up tech house sets with a little skip here and there. I can only take so much of it in a row tbh. However much I like some of the tracks, all at once it get tired fast.

jimitheexploder, Saturday, 30 June 2012 10:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

i've mainly been a 4x4 techno / house listener for years now tbh so it's all good to me, kind of livens up the usual gear

the late great, Saturday, 30 June 2012 10:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah it does sound nice mixed in with house/techno but on its own I just found it boring, there wasn't much variation going on. Sometimes DJs make tracks I like sound boring by the way they mix them, selection around them or whatever and this was the case here for the most part.

jimitheexploder, Saturday, 30 June 2012 10:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

My experience of Disclosure is mixed in with grime and bassline and etc where it comes across as relatively straight (but still bouncy) - though of course there's full on house tunes that DJ Q plays that are straighter.

In this regard it's interesting listening to jackin' house (which DJ Q plays a bit of) which is trying to squeeze the bubbling vibe out of an even straighter post electro-house template.

But this whole vibe - what I mean when I say "UKG interzone bubbler" - is not really about strict stylistic demarcations so much as a kind of sonic-spiritual affiliation, an "if it's bumpin..." imperative which, again, seems intuitively obvious to me but I'd have difficulty articulating exactly what it is so I don't blame people for not seeing it.

I know it seems a bit doctrinaire, but the "would DJ Q play it" rule of thumb is a pretty good one.

Tim F, Saturday, 30 June 2012 15:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah its good rule of thumb, just like I said above some DJs can make tracks I like sound boring by the way they play them and other like DJ Q can play something I'm not that into sound damn good. I guess I'd rather hear Disclosure in a DJ Q mix than in one of their own or alongside some more tasteful house. It does make it sound more exciting or at least beefs it up a little when you mix it energeticly with harder stuff.

One another note this was on the last DJ Q show...

Mella Dee - Fazed

http://soundcloud.com/forefrontrecordings/sets/mella-dee-ruff-cuts-ep-fore005

Feeling this 12", its good to hear something with a bit of rudeness at such a low tempo.

jimitheexploder, Saturday, 30 June 2012 15:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah those Mella Dee tunes are great, though they sit very oddly with this sound (by virtue of their dystopian lethargy) - it'll be interesting to see if that becomes a trend at all.

Incidentally this is the og 2-step that "Closer" makes me think of:

Tim F, Sunday, 1 July 2012 02:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was kind of suprised to hear the Mella Dee tracks on there, I've had them for a while and it never crossed my mind that they'd appear on a Q show. Its prob the Mista Men connection. Fits with quite a lot you hear on Hessle and Night Slugs shows at times.

I can hear that connection between closer and that yeah. Bar the drums not being as garage and them addign a little Orbison synth its damn close.

jimitheexploder, Sunday, 1 July 2012 09:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

MikoMcha please scroll up thread and decide which of the 2013 thread names is best.

Tim F, Friday, 3 May 2013 13:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

the Celsius track is so good

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 May 2013 14:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

we already have a new thread, zone done changed innit

i'd say a full-scale bobbins putsch is as painfully necessary as ever of course but let's be real where my junta at

r|t|c, Friday, 3 May 2013 14:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

really like the Everything Everything too

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 May 2013 14:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol I mean Eats Everything

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 May 2013 14:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

the people are hankering for double bass revival in general imo

http://soundcloud.com/the_emperor/emperor-she-said-out-may-13th

see it deyah

r|t|c, Friday, 3 May 2013 14:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

I dunno... "It's the bubbles of nothing that make it really something" is probably my favorite out of those. I'll try to think of something, but the keywords ineffable and bubblers are kind of restrictive.

MikoMcha, Friday, 3 May 2013 14:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

Josephine, Saturday, 1 June 2013 11:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm going to have to say it again arent i? THIS FUCKING TUNE.

r|t|c, Friday, 7 June 2013 02:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

wow how did this ukg thread manage to turn into a "bass house" thread which doesn't have anything to do with ukg

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 14 June 2013 07:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

That's a rookie mistake durrr.

Tim F, Friday, 14 June 2013 09:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

insult to rookies

r|t|c, Friday, 14 June 2013 11:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

taiki & nulight really finding their feet now. bit of the grime aggro in there i've been impatiently waiting on

r|t|c, Friday, 14 June 2013 11:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

like they're that rare commodity, not bubblers or rollers or droppers or vibsers but slammers, they fling their tracks at your wall

r|t|c, Friday, 14 June 2013 11:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

where is my darling mind taker these days btw, i assume he still listens to music

r|t|c, Friday, 14 June 2013 11:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

still do, yeah!

love Taiki & Nulight's "Take Me Up", here are some other things i'm loving right now too:

DevelopMENT - Bring Me Alive
Justin Martin & Eats Everything - The Gettup
Cause & Affect - Mistakes
House Monkeyz & Thomas Graham - Lost
DJ Q - Big
Paul Sirrell - You Must Be
Alix Perez feat. Sam Wills - Annie's Song (Shadow Child Remix)
Jay-Z - 99 Problems (It's a F***king Benny Rich Bootleg v1)
Baby Blue - Bumps (TS7 Remix)
Ejeca - On
Infinity Ink - Infinity (Skream's 99 Remix)
Republic - Stroke It Baby
Laura Smith - Kriminal (Benny Rich Remix)
Foamo - Sherlock (Kry Wolf Remix)
Dirty Playa & Paul Lawrence - The Rain
Tomola & Marc Spence - Be There
Silverstar - Music Is Magic (DCUP Deep Bitch Remix) **
Caserta - Change Your Mind (Scott Diaz Remix)
Davey Ecko & Thomas Graham - Better Believe
Katorski - Nicole

** haha love how thoroughly the former haven of super respectful & reverent touchy-feely geeks that was deep house has been hijacked by the happy-go-lucky vulgar types, like blog-houser Dcup branding his stabs at 'deep house' as DEEP BITCH remixes or when certifiedjackin on fb wrote something along the lines of 'hey guys i wanna start a new deep house youtube channel do you have a suggestion for a name, ie BALLS DEEP?'

Mind Taker, Friday, 14 June 2013 22:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think the real demarcation these days is less between abstract vs songful and more along production values lines.

This is where a distinction between say 1999 garage and 2001 garage really makes sense, the earlier stuff still retaining a kind of vinyl warmth and almost-"deepness" and the later stuff sounding like the contrast has been turned up - heavier but more plasticky beats, exaggerated bass but also exaggerated treble... a generalised air of hyperreality.

This (rather than pop vs abstraction or lightness vs heaviness) is probably the key point of distinction between "future garage" and the stuff that Q plays, only it's even more extreme now, future garage being "deep" to the point where it has to shun anything that might interfere with that, and the Q interzone retaining (albeit as a kind of reigning principle rather than a clearly defined sonic property) the sickly harshness of bassline.

― Tim F, Thursday, July 5, 2012 11:18 PM (11 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

UKG is in love with defacing and desecrating all binaries, including the binary I attempted to draw only a year ago.

Tim F, Friday, 14 June 2013 23:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Basslime" is way funnier to me than it deserves to be.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 15 June 2013 03:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

sophie - bipp. that's all i gotta say

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Monday, 17 June 2013 12:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

kinda wanna tell you it's the rong thread but i'll let it slide

r|t|c, Monday, 17 June 2013 12:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

that's why i think we need a return of the partisans thread.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Monday, 17 June 2013 13:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

let's not get carried away now

r|t|c, Monday, 17 June 2013 14:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

hmm "bipp" is not exactly as great as "nothing more to say"

lex pretend, Monday, 17 June 2013 17:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://soundcloud.com/jeremysylvester/jeremy-sylvester-mini-mix-deep

cant really be bovd to dress it up right now but just know this is a very proper mix and i cosign it fully

r|t|c, Sunday, 30 June 2013 14:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

dutch garage!

killer ukg x bouncy techno one-off

Mind Taker, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 22:40 (9 months ago) Permalink

Nice, Netherlands-styles.

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 22:55 (9 months ago) Permalink

feel sad i still can't find a way into this shuffle deep tech thing... don't wanna be old yet :/

r|t|c, Friday, 25 October 2013 19:21 (8 months ago) Permalink

have you tried going out and dancing to it? (you're in london, right?)

Mind Taker, Friday, 25 October 2013 19:50 (8 months ago) Permalink

not a snarky question, btw - don't know if you're into clubbing or not but in that type of situation it's usually the way to go

Mind Taker, Friday, 25 October 2013 20:24 (8 months ago) Permalink


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