"I go to BlackPOLL for my holidays,"-- ILM Artist Poll #17 -- The Kinks RESULTS THREAD

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actually on original European release, not just track list. Later a single.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 23 April 2012 23:58 (eleven years ago) link

Okay, that would explain my confusion; the YouTube I was looking at identified it as VGPS, and I've got an old Canadian Phonodisc pressing. I'm going to be keeping an eye out for Kinks Kronikles (Christgau's jokey review sticks out in my mind), although I bet vinyl copies aren't cheap.

clemenza, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:54 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, "Days" was on the original Euro pressings of the album, which were mistakingly issued after the band pulled the tracklist, cutting it and "Mr. Songbird" in favor of five other songs, among them "Big Sky" and "Animal Farm".

Kink Kronikles probably shouldn't be that expensive on vinyl--I imagine it was in print from '72 to whenever Warners stopped doing vinyl (early '90s?). I picked one up a few years ago for about $8.

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, I used to have one that had plastic inner sleeves so I think it was in print for a long time.

timellison, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 01:33 (eleven years ago) link

my ballot

albums
1 something else
2 muswell hillbillies
3 the kink kontroversy
4 kinda kinks
5 village green preservation society

3 worst
1 black messiah
2 somebody stole my car
3 welcome to sleazy town

tracks
1 days
2 victoria
3 i need you
4 all day and all of the night
5 sunny afternoon
6 till the end of the day
7 waterloo sunset
8 oklahoma usa
9 you really got me
10 picture book
11 nothin in the world can stop me from worryin bout that girl
12 tired of waiting for you
13 father christmas
14 this time tomorrow
15 misfits
16 little miss queen of darkness
17 some mother's son
18 rosie won't you please come home
19 i'm not like everybody else
20 lola

balls, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 01:34 (eleven years ago) link

I've heard that the CD version of Kink Kronikles has poor sound, by the way.

timellison, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 02:17 (eleven years ago) link

wouldn't be surprised if it does (though that's how i've heard it). was probably done early in the CD era and never again to my knowledge. amazing comp all the same, i taped it from the library as a kid and it was definitely the gateway into serious kinks appreciation.

tylerw, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 02:29 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks C Grisso. My ballot:

1. Waterloo Sunset (1)
2. Days (5)
3. The Village Green Preservation Society (15)
4. See My Friends (16)
5. Autumn Almanac (14)
6. Victoria (2)
7. You Really Got Me (3)
8. Better Things (31)
9. The Way Love Used to Be (39)
10. Tired of Waiting For You (7)
11. Art Lover (DNP)
12. Dead End Street (12)
13. Sunny Afternoon (8)
14. Shangri-La (4)
15. Celluloid Heroes (29)
16. Everybody’s Gonna Be Happy (DNP)
17. Do You Remember Walter? (17)
18. David Watts (9)
19. Who’ll Be the Next in Line (DNP)
20. Fancy (34)

And I have been called "The Appetite" (DL), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 08:14 (eleven years ago) link

In the now honourable tradition..

1. "Victoria" (2)
2. "All Day And All Of The Night"(10)
3. "Dead End Street"(12)
4. "You Really Got Me"(3)
5. "Mr. Churchill Says"
6. "Party Line"(36)
7. "See My Friends"(16)
8. "Susannah's Still Alive"
9. "Dandy"
10. "Wonderboy"
11. "The Village Green Preservation Society"(15)
12. "Where Have All The Good Times Gone"(43)
13. "Sunny Afternoon"(8)
14. "Dedicated Follower Of Fashion"(37)
15. "Apeman"(46)
16. "Days"(5)
17. "Waterloo Sunset"(1)
18. "Tired Of Waiting For You"(7)
19. "Picture Book"(21)
20. "Death Of A Clown"(35)

Mark G, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 09:03 (eleven years ago) link

Go on then, "Susannah's Still Alive" was 51, wasn't it?

Mark G, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 09:04 (eleven years ago) link

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51fjr0y4I%2BL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Mark G, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

hmmmm is that ... is that a thing?

tylerw, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

apparently! Sadly, an overpriced import to the States.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

5 cds and a dvd. http://www.thekinks.info/the-kinks-at-the-bbc/

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, just saw that it was more than $100! maybe it'll come down. looks niiiiiice.

tylerw, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

hmmmm is that ... is that a thing?

Is it weird that I read that in a Dave Chappelle voice?

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link

yes.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

hot damn tamale.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link

when are we doing The Who. Did I miss it?

Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 26 April 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

The Who will be #24, and will be run by Tarfumes.

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 26 April 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

Just seen the timing thread, and notice The Cure and Kate Bush are upcoming. Must find out how to vote, some spreadsheet malarkey iirc. Is there an idiot's guide?

Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 26 April 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

Just saw on the Kinks fb page that Rosie Davies, sister of Ray and Dave and inspiration for many of the former's songs, has passed away.

Incident At Spanish Harlem (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 3 July 2014 20:24 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Here's Dave Davies taking the ice bucket challenge as nominated by Mark Hammill.

Wait, what?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhRZVISDppU

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 22:17 (nine years ago) link

four years pass...

Why didn't any of you tell me about The Kinks? Gonna have to listen to the first ten albums and then get back to you about these results, but let's just say that I'm enjoying them quite a lot. My initiation, courtesy tt, is Lola vs Powerman, and you all seem to think it's not even one of their best, but my god it's great

imago, Sunday, 11 August 2019 09:32 (four years ago) link

Utterly baffled by this band, early fuzz notwithstanding. Cultural barrier may be a factor.

pomenitul, Sunday, 11 August 2019 10:41 (four years ago) link

Utterly baffled by imago liking the Kinks tbh.

Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 August 2019 11:43 (four years ago) link

I liked my ballot so much I made a playlist out of it and have listened to it countless times. I even tried to play all the songs a few times, to varying degrees of success.

Always good to think about the Kinks 😀

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 11 August 2019 13:12 (four years ago) link

it's not our fault, look cardiacs even covered "susannah's still alive" in 1988, what else did you need?

Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Sunday, 11 August 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link

Pssst imago the Kinks are fantastic

Also there are like a hundred ILM Kinks threads

Οὖτις, Sunday, 11 August 2019 15:51 (four years ago) link

Face to Face through Muswell is pretty much all essential, and get the expanded editions so you don't miss all the non-album sides.

o. nate, Sunday, 11 August 2019 20:43 (four years ago) link

Haven't looked at these results yet but if Ray Davies has written more than two or three better songs than Do You Remember Walter then I'll hardly believe it, that is one of the best things I have ever heard

imago, Monday, 12 August 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link

Wistful songs of lost opportunity, middling regret, and unsatisfied complacency? I'd put that one in the middle of a dozen great songs in that mode.

bendy, Monday, 12 August 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link

Kink Kronicles is one of the best compilations ever made and it's downright essential even if you've got all the studio albums since half of it is non-album/single tracks

frogbs, Monday, 12 August 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link

The big 50th anniversary reissue box set of Arthur is coming out in a couple months. Theres a few different super deluxe versions of it with tons of extras and bonus discs and toys, but none of the bonus material really tempts me that much, my vinyl copy still sounds great and endless alternate mono mixes don't really excite me. But I'll probably still get whatever the cheapest CD version is that still comes with the book-length liner notes -
I know the broad strokes behind the context & making of the album but I'd love to dig deeper into it.

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Monday, 12 August 2019 18:39 (four years ago) link

Which reminds me, imago, don't sleep on the unreleased Dave Davies album, which is pretty easy to find in various versions, amazing stuff there!

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Monday, 12 August 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link

picked up a nice copy of Arthur been listening a lot... lyrics to Some Mother's Son are so brutal, what a songwriter


Two soldiers fighting in a trench
One soldier glances up to see the sun
And dreams of games he played when he was young
And then his friend calls out his name
It stops his dream and as he turns his head
A second later he is dead
Some mother's son lies in a field
Back home they put his picture in a frame
But all dead soldiers look the same
While all the parents stand and wait
To meet their children coming home from school
Some mother's son is lying dead

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 August 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link

Wow. Makes me think of the Kipling poem "The Beginner"

On the first hour of my first day
In the front trench I fell
(Children in boxes at a play
Stand up to watch it well.)

Lily Dale, Monday, 12 August 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link

For such a 'Lost Album' there's been loads of Official reissues of the Dave stuff. Your best bet is a single disc called Hidden Treasures that collects the most relevant stuff (and then some) with superb annotation.

"Creeping Jean" is one of the great lost Kinks songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m07i8jUpFxg

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 12 August 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link

Yeah the Hidden Treasures disc is the one I've got, definitely recommend it, seems like the definitive version of that group of tracks.

"Creeping Jean" is an all-time track for me, would have been very high in my ballot if I'd voted here

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Monday, 12 August 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link

whoa, I did not know abt these old Dave tracks

sleeve, Monday, 12 August 2019 20:30 (four years ago) link

just realized the last track on the “hidden treasures” comp is a spider john koerner cover !

budo jeru, Monday, 12 August 2019 22:32 (four years ago) link

also, does anybody know if the tracks collected here are available elsewhere, in print and preferably legally ?

i think i used to have the mp3s somewhere but not anymore and i wouldn’t mind investing in a physical disc

budo jeru, Monday, 12 August 2019 22:38 (four years ago) link

Seems like a bunch of those have been spread out as bonus tracks on expanded/deluxe editions.

Several are also on The Great Lost Kinks Album (Kink Kronicles sequel the Ray had pulled after the initial pressing).

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 12 August 2019 22:52 (four years ago) link

it’s mostly the demo stuff (particularly “tell me now so i’ll know”) that i’m after

budo jeru, Monday, 12 August 2019 23:03 (four years ago) link

Ok, based on the fine-to-good Something Else and the so-far-incredible Arthur, there's a clear moment when this band became great - TKATVGPS.

imago, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link

if you haven't heard Face To Face, I think that's where the greatness begins fwiw

sleeve, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link

I won't leave it out! Arthur is just next-level though for all sorts of reasons

imago, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:27 (four years ago) link


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