"I go to BlackPOLL for my holidays,"-- ILM Artist Poll #17 -- The Kinks RESULTS THREAD

^ seconded. I struggled with whether or not to put "Life On The Road" on my ballot.

SONGS:

1. No More Looking Back
2. Tired of Waiting For You (#7)
3 .Two Sisters (#45)
4. Catch Me Now I’m Falling
5 .Where Have All The Good Times Gone? (#43)
6 .Lola (#6)
7 .Days (#5)
8 .Here Comes Yet Another Day
9 .I’m Not Like Everybody Else (#13)
10. Do It Again (#50)
11. No Return
12. 20th Century Man (#38)
13. Father Christmas
14. Everybody’s A Star (Starmaker)
15. Celluloid Heroes (#29)
16. Living On A Thin Line
17. When I Turn Off the Living Room Light
18. Full Moon
19. Victoria (#2)
20. Waterloo Sunset (#1)

ALBUMS:

1. Something Else
2. Muswell Hillbillies
3. Low Budget
4. Face To Face
5. The Great Lost Kinks Album

MOST HATED:

None

Missed the end. Thanks to C. Grissom. Surprised by the complaints about "Tired of Waiting for You"'s high finish--easily one of the most beautiful pop songs ever for me.

1. “Where Have All the Good Times Gone” (40)
2. “Tired of Waiting for You” (36)
3. “Too Much on My Mind” (33)
4. “See My Friends” (30)
5. “Love Me Till the Sun Shines” (28)
6. “Lola” (26)
7. “Nothin' in the World Can Stop Me Worryin' 'Bout That Girl” (25)
8. “Stop Your Sobbing” (24)
9. “Afternoon Tea” (23)
10. “Party Line” (22)

I think "Afternoon Tea" was my only non-finisher--wasn't sure if it was well regarded within the Kinks body of work or not.

for me the mind-blowing thing about Days is that here you have this bitter piece of shit (sorry) called Ray Davis who likes to make fun of all sorts of people and emotions singing about the attitude that is easiest to make fun of and dismiss (the you-left-me-but-it's-ok-cause-it-was-great-while-it-lasted attitude) and he plays it completely straight!

hah, just listening to "Do It Again" as I go over the few songs on the poll I didn't think I knew (i.e. "Sweet Lady Genevieve" & "Better Things", both great btw) & I know this song! this was a big single back in the day, & I sing it all the time around the house, but I had no idea it was a Kinks song. it's just a song I heard a lot as a kid. It's weird to me that the same band that created punk & then raga rock & then gorgeous pastoral pop, ends up making music that they blast on the Himalaya on the radio at the Florida State Fair in the mid 1980s, alongside Van Halen & the Tubes.

xp or maybe it's about a loved one passing away and I'm totally off. as it's already been demonstrated, I don't understand this dude.

I'm listening to "Days" off YouTube--I have Village Green, but (sorry) it just didn't ring a bell. Anyway, I love this user comment: "...makes me so proud to be British, and I'm a Jewish glass of water born on the moon."

its not on Village Green...?

xp Kind of sad to see Mick Avory in the video for "Do It Again" considering he'd been booted from the band during the Word of Mouth sessions and doesn't play on that song.

"Days" was in the original track list for vgps, but was dropped.

actually on original European release, not just track list. Later a single.

Okay, that would explain my confusion; the YouTube I was looking at identified it as VGPS, and I've got an old Canadian Phonodisc pressing. I'm going to be keeping an eye out for Kinks Kronikles (Christgau's jokey review sticks out in my mind), although I bet vinyl copies aren't cheap.

Yeah, "Days" was on the original Euro pressings of the album, which were mistakingly issued after the band pulled the tracklist, cutting it and "Mr. Songbird" in favor of five other songs, among them "Big Sky" and "Animal Farm".

Kink Kronikles probably shouldn't be that expensive on vinyl--I imagine it was in print from '72 to whenever Warners stopped doing vinyl (early '90s?). I picked one up a few years ago for about $8.

Yeah, I used to have one that had plastic inner sleeves so I think it was in print for a long time.

my ballot

albums
1 something else
2 muswell hillbillies
3 the kink kontroversy
4 kinda kinks
5 village green preservation society

3 worst
1 black messiah
2 somebody stole my car
3 welcome to sleazy town

tracks
1 days
2 victoria
3 i need you
4 all day and all of the night
5 sunny afternoon
6 till the end of the day
7 waterloo sunset
8 oklahoma usa
9 you really got me
10 picture book
11 nothin in the world can stop me from worryin bout that girl
12 tired of waiting for you
13 father christmas
14 this time tomorrow
15 misfits
16 little miss queen of darkness
17 some mother's son
18 rosie won't you please come home
19 i'm not like everybody else
20 lola

I've heard that the CD version of Kink Kronikles has poor sound, by the way.

wouldn't be surprised if it does (though that's how i've heard it). was probably done early in the CD era and never again to my knowledge. amazing comp all the same, i taped it from the library as a kid and it was definitely the gateway into serious kinks appreciation.

Thanks C Grisso. My ballot:

1. Waterloo Sunset (1)
2. Days (5)
3. The Village Green Preservation Society (15)
4. See My Friends (16)
5. Autumn Almanac (14)
6. Victoria (2)
7. You Really Got Me (3)
8. Better Things (31)
9. The Way Love Used to Be (39)
10. Tired of Waiting For You (7)
11. Art Lover (DNP)
12. Dead End Street (12)
13. Sunny Afternoon (8)
14. Shangri-La (4)
15. Celluloid Heroes (29)
16. Everybody’s Gonna Be Happy (DNP)
17. Do You Remember Walter? (17)
18. David Watts (9)
19. Who’ll Be the Next in Line (DNP)
20. Fancy (34)

In the now honourable tradition..

1. "Victoria" (2)
2. "All Day And All Of The Night"(10)
3. "Dead End Street"(12)
4. "You Really Got Me"(3)
5. "Mr. Churchill Says"
6. "Party Line"(36)
7. "See My Friends"(16)
8. "Susannah's Still Alive"
9. "Dandy"
10. "Wonderboy"
11. "The Village Green Preservation Society"(15)
12. "Where Have All The Good Times Gone"(43)
13. "Sunny Afternoon"(8)
14. "Dedicated Follower Of Fashion"(37)
15. "Apeman"(46)
16. "Days"(5)
17. "Waterloo Sunset"(1)
18. "Tired Of Waiting For You"(7)
19. "Picture Book"(21)
20. "Death Of A Clown"(35)

Go on then, "Susannah's Still Alive" was 51, wasn't it?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51fjr0y4I%2BL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

hmmmm is that ... is that a thing?

apparently! Sadly, an overpriced import to the States.

5 cds and a dvd. http://www.thekinks.info/the-kinks-at-the-bbc/

yeah, just saw that it was more than $100! maybe it'll come down. looks niiiiiice.

hmmmm is that ... is that a thing?

Is it weird that I read that in a Dave Chappelle voice?

yes.

Way cheaper here: http://www.deepdiscount.com/cd/kinks-at-the-bbc-import/

hot damn tamale.

when are we doing The Who. Did I miss it?

The Who will be #24, and will be run by Tarfumes.

Just seen the timing thread, and notice The Cure and Kate Bush are upcoming. Must find out how to vote, some spreadsheet malarkey iirc. Is there an idiot's guide?

Just saw on the Kinks fb page that Rosie Davies, sister of Ray and Dave and inspiration for many of the former's songs, has passed away.

Here's Dave Davies taking the ice bucket challenge as nominated by Mark Hammill.

Wait, what?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhRZVISDppU

Why didn't any of you tell me about The Kinks? Gonna have to listen to the first ten albums and then get back to you about these results, but let's just say that I'm enjoying them quite a lot. My initiation, courtesy tt, is Lola vs Powerman, and you all seem to think it's not even one of their best, but my god it's great

Utterly baffled by this band, early fuzz notwithstanding. Cultural barrier may be a factor.

Utterly baffled by imago liking the Kinks tbh.

I liked my ballot so much I made a playlist out of it and have listened to it countless times. I even tried to play all the songs a few times, to varying degrees of success.

Always good to think about the Kinks 😀

it's not our fault, look cardiacs even covered "susannah's still alive" in 1988, what else did you need?

Pssst imago the Kinks are fantastic

Also there are like a hundred ILM Kinks threads

Face to Face through Muswell is pretty much all essential, and get the expanded editions so you don't miss all the non-album sides.

Haven't looked at these results yet but if Ray Davies has written more than two or three better songs than Do You Remember Walter then I'll hardly believe it, that is one of the best things I have ever heard

Wistful songs of lost opportunity, middling regret, and unsatisfied complacency? I'd put that one in the middle of a dozen great songs in that mode.

Kink Kronicles is one of the best compilations ever made and it's downright essential even if you've got all the studio albums since half of it is non-album/single tracks

The big 50th anniversary reissue box set of Arthur is coming out in a couple months. Theres a few different super deluxe versions of it with tons of extras and bonus discs and toys, but none of the bonus material really tempts me that much, my vinyl copy still sounds great and endless alternate mono mixes don't really excite me. But I'll probably still get whatever the cheapest CD version is that still comes with the book-length liner notes -
I know the broad strokes behind the context & making of the album but I'd love to dig deeper into it.

Which reminds me, imago, don't sleep on the unreleased Dave Davies album, which is pretty easy to find in various versions, amazing stuff there!

picked up a nice copy of Arthur been listening a lot... lyrics to Some Mother's Son are so brutal, what a songwriter


Two soldiers fighting in a trench
One soldier glances up to see the sun
And dreams of games he played when he was young
And then his friend calls out his name
It stops his dream and as he turns his head
A second later he is dead
Some mother's son lies in a field
Back home they put his picture in a frame
But all dead soldiers look the same
While all the parents stand and wait
To meet their children coming home from school
Some mother's son is lying dead

Wow. Makes me think of the Kipling poem "The Beginner"

On the first hour of my first day
In the front trench I fell
(Children in boxes at a play
Stand up to watch it well.)

For such a 'Lost Album' there's been loads of Official reissues of the Dave stuff. Your best bet is a single disc called Hidden Treasures that collects the most relevant stuff (and then some) with superb annotation.

"Creeping Jean" is one of the great lost Kinks songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m07i8jUpFxg

Yeah the Hidden Treasures disc is the one I've got, definitely recommend it, seems like the definitive version of that group of tracks.

"Creeping Jean" is an all-time track for me, would have been very high in my ballot if I'd voted here