I'm aware this is following the books, but c'mon: we're drowning in characters already.
They've really done a remarkable amount of streamlining already. It's quite a task
― Number None, Monday, 23 April 2012 21:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
shouldn't have Cat's family shown up at this point?? what are the tully's doing?
― one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
Is Cat's creepy sister with the kid an Arran now? And are Arrans the Lords of the Vale?
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
or was she in a Tully stronghold?
Houses:
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Houses_of_Westeros
― polyphonic, Monday, 23 April 2012 22:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
missing houses Pain, Buggin, Waffle, and Pancake
― I cannot host as my wife hates Walker (latebloomer), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
whoever said they've done an admirable job of streamlining this is otm---I encouraged my roommate to watch this and for him to go hog wild with the "ok who's THAT guy" questions and it actually wasnt that difficult to nutshell a lot of it? and this dude basically doesn't watch tv, has never been a fantasy dude, and is in general a perfect test case. a guess a lot of the plot devices are actually standard enough ("this person is made because that person killed this other person") that most scenes have an easily graspable power gradient or w/e
explaining the sopranos would've been trickier
― catbus otm (gbx), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah but her brother Edmure & uncle Brynden aka the Blackfish should really be introduced at some point.
― gyac, Monday, 23 April 2012 22:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
Got confused that Bolton was the Great House of the North (lol has GRRM ever been to Bolton?) but alright, worked it out. (going to assume there are spoilers there, btw)
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
ah, and the Martell's are home to the famed Dornish wines/whores. Can't wait to see them.
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
also apologies for asking clarification questions here from time to time, but google is a minefield of spoilers
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
Nah it's cool, fire away.
― catbus otm (gbx), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
(going to assume there are spoilers there, btw)
There are only spoilers there if you click into one of the houses and read about it. On the root page it's fine.
― polyphonic, Monday, 23 April 2012 22:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
so Stark and Tully have been officially exiled?
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
After closer reading there are definitely spoilers on that page, sorry!
― polyphonic, Monday, 23 April 2012 22:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
Oh, was guy talking to Robb on battlefield Roose Bolton?
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
yup
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 23 April 2012 22:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
I almost feel like putting up a poll of favorite houses, but I probably would never recover from the feelings of dorkiness.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Monday, 23 April 2012 23:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm just about to start DwD, when I finish I may well do a POV character poll (excluding all the one-off ones)
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 23 April 2012 23:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
aw man not another fucking smoke monster
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
tyrion aside this was a horrible and shitty episode and probably for the first time kinda made me feel like a saddo for even watching this show
the thirteen were SO CRINGE
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
it's the same smoke monster--irc the island is in westeros somewhere.thought the last two eps were both kinda middling but i'm gonna stick w it of course.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 01:41 (6 minutes ago)
I definitely cringed a little at "Xaro Xhoan Daxos". I mean it's fine on the page...
― Number None, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
they're going insanely overboard with the sex and violence too. Most of which is not on the page
― Number None, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
this one was probably the worst of the series. exposition was clunky and they couldn't even hang it on some decent thematic thread. obv i am crazy excited about next week, because I always am.
This was the last ep sent to critics (at least in the initial review package), which is the same as last year, and iirc it was about episode five where it became less about establishing everything and more about shit kicking into gear. I'm hoping this season follows that same rhythm, but with so much new crap i dunno.
xposts
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
I really don't think they are. There seems to be a lot less sex at least, at least as far as pointless nudity goes (only real case of sexposition all season was greyjoy in the ship iirc).
Violence is brutal, yes, but in times of war it makes sense that the worst excesses of a culture comes out.
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/22795/game-of-thrones-to-english-premier-league-converter&usg=AFQjCNGyNhPuv7-hhWfL5LGer903S3TF_w
nn did you see this btw!
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
I mean stuff like the Joffrey scene. Look we know he's a psychopathic little shit already
― Number None, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm loling at Rooney as Ramsay Bolton r|t|c
― Number None, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, but this psychopathic in a different way. I thought it was the best scene of the episode.
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 01:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
I definitely cringed a little at "Xaro Xhoan Daxos". I mean it's fine on the page
okay, how on earth did they decide to pronounce this
― thomp, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 02:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
at this point i barely know the names of anyone so this thread could explicitly spread spoilers like crazy; i'm happily clueless
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 02:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
I wonder if we're going to get the Bloody Mummers this season.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 12:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
There are times in the books where the names come dangerously close to turning into Dr. Seuss names.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 13:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 13:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
i invoke sumai
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 14:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
poor Elladred, missing out.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 14:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
This was the last ep sent to critics (at least in the initial review package), which is the same as last year,
Critics got six eps last year! I expect that semi-major characters will start to bite it starting next episode (I haven't read the books; I'm just guessing) and they want to hold onto that as long as they can...
― Walter Galt, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 14:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
Walter, your expectation is correct.
So... being careful not to spoil... in the books, Arya becomes Roose Bolton's cup-bearer at Harrenhal, not Tywin's, correct? This is a BIG change from the book and I'm not sure where they'll head with it...
― til the sound of my voice will haint u (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
um that is very much a spoiler though
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
we have a spoiler thread fyi
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
I don't think a departure from the book is a spoiler.
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
its not a departure from the book, his post references stuff that hasnt happened yet
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
except that it won't happen now, because Tywin is at Harrenhal instead
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
he was there in the book too iirc...
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol, MOD CLEAN UP NEEDED AISLE 5. all this needs to go!
i have copied the original spoilery post to the spoilers spoilers spoilers thread.
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
feel like people should just read the goddamn books
― max, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
spoiler police brutality imo
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
fuck reading the books i want the SURPRISE of television
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 18:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
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― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, April 24, 2012 1:49 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Sorry! What Gukbe said there was my reasoning as to why it wasn't a spoiler. Will talk on the other thread.
― til the sound of my voice will haint u (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 18:11 (1 year ago) Permalink