Best Song on Diddy - Dirty Money's "Last Train to Paris"

"Your Love" is one of the best things Trey Songz has ever done, he probably would get my vote

^some dude otm

oh actually yeah i agree! i forgot because i was looking at the choices in this poll and poor trey's credit got missed off

(but i think i'd still choose timberlake or grey)

trey may well have the best individual performance but i think looking at it in terms of whose absence from the album would be most felt it's weezy imo

oh i'd love weezyless edits of both his songs

can we do a kickstarter to buy goole that costume and then require him to wear it once a week

just another mise en scene trampled under ships' absolutist hooves xp

haha

i mean i totally subscribe to the theory that every element of the album contributes to the whole and wouldn't want to change a thing -- BUT if i was going to delete anyone from the record it'd totally be Wayne

oh i'd love weezyless edits of both his songs

― Poor Turrican (some dude), Monday, April 23, 2012 3:20 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^

i'd totally vote chris brown tbh - i've loved plenty of his songs before and after LTTP but i think his performers here are among the very few that hint at any actual humanity

well at least the better of the two CB songs appears without him (and perhaps more crucially, without Wiz Khalifa) on the Dawn mixtape

i might feel compelled to vote for CB in this hypothetical poll so please don't

also my hourly rate for humiliation is pretty high but i'm not saying no at this point in time

gotcher back, dude brought it on this album imo. i know tim agrees too

pretty happy that I had cause to order stuff from amazon and got a $3 physical versh

y'all are underrating weezy on "strobe lights", that might get my vote

i told her i would love her
love her as forever
forever's just a word
i put words together

I have never underrated weezy on strobe lights

the strobe lights are dancing
we've taken all the chances
she question what we are
and i'll drink to the answer

yeah dayo you're the only one

i mean i totally subscribe to the theory that every element of the album contributes to the whole and wouldn't want to change a thing -- BUT if i was going to delete anyone from the record it'd totally be Wayne

― Poor Turrican (some dude), Monday, 23 April 2012 20:31 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

yeah no i do think we're p much on the same page here generally but just for me weezy's presence on the album was vital in kinda idk, emulsifying the cocky/dreamy "hate you but i love you but i hate you" motherfuckers that's stoned patient aspect that i think would otherwise have got a little lost just with diddy carrying it. obviously subsequent releases in the ddm canon have further gone some ways towards internalizing the whole aesthetic so that perhaps now weezy doesnt quite seem as necessary, but at the time (and still in terms of lltp as a standalone piece) he was pertinent

also i say weezy's 'presence' rather than contribution specifically - i would suggest it's important to note all guests on the album have their characters sublimated into the lttp vibe, almost like they're mutliplicites of a single conflicted self rather than discrete entities cosigning the main body. like i might have first said ross was eminently the least essential person on this but even he works as a sort of texture of in-the-here-and-now brash celebrity unaware of the diddy/biggie melancholies to come

i told her i would love her
love her as forever
forever's just a word
i put words together

these are not the lines i would choose to type out to sell wayne on "strobe lights" to sceptics (though i do like his turn on it)

lil wayne's attitude on 'strobe lights' is like someone pulling the wings off of a fly

forever's just a word
i put words together

pretty devastating imo

really fits into the dark, doubtful middle third of the album

love hypothetical polls btw, dudes should fail to realise them more often

i would suggest it's important to note all guests on the album have their characters sublimated into the lttp vibe, almost like they're mutliplicites of a single conflicted self rather than discrete entities cosigning the main body

this is so crucial yeah! but the best ones are also entirely recognisable as themselves, or at least they're basically still doing what they normally do, so it's not just straightforward self-anonymising in service of diddy, it's kind of...almost like the other way round, an extension of the sade love (and how diddy quotes those songs diddy on "coming home"). it's him identifying with what wayne, justin etc do and using them as mouthpieces.

We should also have a "best guest appearance on a version of a LTTP song that didn't make the album" failed poll.

e.g. Nicki vs Cassie vs Serani vs ??

basia

for me it would be between jt on "shades" and wfb on "strobe lights"

good post, rtc

Cathy Dennis

e.g. Nicki vs Cassie vs Serani vs ??

― Tim F, Monday, April 23, 2012 6:48 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

which song had serani on it???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elCCheTdOpA

oh that's a tease

i told her i would love her
love her as forever
forever's just a word
i put words together

― J0rdan S., Monday, April 23, 2012 5:46 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

.......

love hypothetical polls btw, dudes should fail to realise them more often

― r|t|c, Monday, April 23, 2012 5:56 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

yeah i got to have the convo i wanted w/o the embarrassment of starting yet another thread about this album

haha it's ok i've done the same thing several times with terius, then ilxor polled it for me later anyway. win-win!

Which had Cassie on it?

it was one of the ones off the prologue mixtape, she wasn't particularly noticeable iirc

There was a PROLOGUE mixtape?!

yeah, it was released on the vogue website w/ a little piece by andre leon talley

it was like 4 actual songs and then a bunch of interludes of famous fashion people speaking iirc

there were technically two prologue mixtapes if you count the one with felix da housecat from the previous year as well

oh damn, i forgot about both of those

ahh i forgot that felix da housecat mix ever existed. was pretty great iirc?

'lovers land' clip from making the band 4 - clown all u like but this sounds dope imo, that pressplay drama

― r|t|c, Friday, 20 February 2009 18:48 (3 years ago) Bookmark

ooh and this

haha omg diddys tears of a clown/is a house a home routine in coming home is so lol, I forgot abt this, made even better by the fact that I can't tell how much it's on purpose, I'm watching the fuse top 100 rap videos countdown

also hilarious dame dash hamming it up w his shirt off on the yacht in big pimpin

eric roberts is in the smack that video

why doesnt jt timberlake make music anymore, so fd up

drake is here o no