Indefinite Detention? But I Have Soccer Practice at 4: U.S. Politics 2012

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11 percent were African American and, more like 10 percent was harold ford and 1 pct was other

goole, Monday, 23 April 2012 14:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^

Yes.

curmudgeon, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

and Donna Brazile.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

I guess Glenn Greenwald's one appearance on "This Week" offended George Will enough to rescind future invitations.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Will this Dallas rich guy's donations help him out (in the nuclear waste dumping biz)? He has donated $18.7 million to Republican political organizations—

http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/magazine/102778/harold-simmons-campaign-donor-2012-gop?page=0,0

curmudgeon, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

A billionaire knows that it never hurts business to have a passel of politicians deeply indebted to you, so although he probably has a laundry list of favors he'll be pushing for, he probably views his donations as much as a kind of insurance as anything else. He's just making sure the politicians don't get any fancy-pants ideas about mere voters being important.

Aimless, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Minnesota's party of fiscal responsibility to be evicted from its St. Paul headquarters for non-payment of rent:

http://www.startribune.com/politics/statelocal/148535875.html

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

i wonder what this means for this year's contests. amy klobuchar's opponent will probably not be short of money (but obv not as not-short as al franken's eventual opponent)

goole, Monday, 23 April 2012 20:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

yay! (xpost)

HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 23 April 2012 20:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

well the new head says they're negotiating the back rent. considering commercial property vacancies i doubt they'll be out on the curb.

goole, Monday, 23 April 2012 20:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

I just like that they're so in debt and and being embarassed

HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 23 April 2012 20:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Drones for urban warfare.

http://www.salon.com/2012/04/24/drones_for_urban_warfare/

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 02:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

what could possibly go wrong?!

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 02:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

one day I hope to grow up and become an opinion writer

dayo, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 13:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

Pulitzer Prize winner Kathleen Parker

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 13:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

"The Pulitzer Prize in fiction takes dead aim at mediocrity and almost never misses" -Wm. Gass

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 13:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

x-post -I read that stupid Parker article. She believes that Obama visiting John Edwards' state of North Carolina is somehow worse than anything Bush ever did, but the press just won't admit this.

Bush staffers were well familiar with this routine, which is why they never would have allowed him to be in such a situation. Perhaps, as another close political observer suggested to me, the Obama White House has no such concerns. The media simply do not come after Obama in the same way they did Bush, notwithstanding recent research showing that Obama received the most negative coverage of any presidential candidate during the Republican primary. The Bush White House was under siege and conducted itself accordingly. No T’s went uncrossed.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

"notwithstanding recent research"

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

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Maybe Huntsman will start hanging out with Tom Friedman's third party

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

did we talk about this?

I prefer he stay a Republican.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

not gonna lie, if one of the major political parties actually implodes during my lifetime and is replaced by something else I am gonna be PSYCHED

I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

unless, of course, the net effect is worse.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

the gop is already imploding

iatee, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

But despite that, they still successfully filibuster in the US Senate, control the US House of Representatives and have lots of influence in state governments throughout the US

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

yup

iatee, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

when parties fall apart they are usually replace by something more 'extreme'. the reason for a party's dissolution is usually that there is a need or an issue of its potential sympathizers that isn't being voiced as well as they'd like

goole, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Rich ppl between age 55 and death still run nearly everything. Too bad they live so damn long.

Well, something more "extreme" is mandatory to convert us from an economy entirely focused on the limitless gobbling of resources. One party refuses to acknowledge the possibility of such a move, the other barely does.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

when parties fall apart they are usually replaced by something more 'extreme'. the reason for a party's dissolution is usually that there is a need or an issue of its potential sympathizers that isn't being voiced as well as they'd like

well atm the gop is in a process of whittling itself down to the extremist right ~30% of america and in the process throwing a lot of elections it can win - including this one. plus is boxed in by long-term demographics. that's really not sustainable 2nd party in the longer-term...it doesn't really need a single issue.

also morbs otm unfortunately

iatee, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

politics can probably stay irrational longer than manhattan can stay above water

iatee, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

when parties fall apart they are usually replaced by something more 'extreme'.

Is this true? Examples?

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

whigs/know-nothings and the birth of the republicans, both dems and the GOP + wallace in the 60s

goole, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

at a very rough guess i'd say the atrophy of british liberals and the rise of labour but i'm really talking out of my ass there

goole, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

that's a small sample set and one that doesn't compare super well to american politics in 2012, I think.

iatee, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

the Republicans were more extreme than the Know Nothings?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

opposition to slavery was 'extreme' and totally unserved by any political party at the time until the republicans showed up. know-nothings served the interests of northern laborers via nativism; republicans followed by expressing that anxiety contra 'the slave power'

goole, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

well, the Dems didn't replace themselves in the '60s! They "evolved," partly out of necessity when the most extreme Southern racists began to leave.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

yup

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_Party_System

ppl disagree as to whether we are still in this or not

goole, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

I say this a lot but comparing politics today to politics in the 1800s seems pretty fruitless.

one thing you can say is that the party system changes (nominally) v. infrequently.

another thing you can say is that the gop's politics just simply cannot sell on a national level forever + at the same time the only people left in the party are people who have had second helpings of kool aid.

iatee, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

For the GOP's policies, see also the Dem's actions.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

another thing you can say is that the gop's politics just simply cannot sell on a national level forever + at the same time the only people left in the party are people who have had second helpings of kool aid.

Maybe not forever, but as I mentioned above, it's working pretty well for them now in many states and in parts of the US govt.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

well some states have a lot of kool aid, the massive economic downturn gave the gop a lot of cover, and the american political system allows a minority senate to fuck shit up. but that doesn't mean the gop hasn't boxed itself into a really poor place nationally.

iatee, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Forbes columnist analysis! Warning: Quotes Rasmussen polls as truth

http://douglasschoen.com/why-president-obama-is-unlikely-to-significantly-improve-his-standing-among-male-voters/

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also warning: considers comparing poll results over the last 30 years to be in any way useful - oh yeah some of you guys love that shit.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

rasmussen proves male voters are dumber, more racist, anti-obama

wolves in our wounds (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 17:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 conservative House Dems lose their primaries to more liberal opponents, primarily because of their opposition to healthcare and climate change legislation

heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 26 April 2012 15:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^^in Pennsylvania btw

heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 26 April 2012 15:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

well, also because of redistricting

iatee, Thursday, 26 April 2012 15:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/25/robert-draper-anti-obama-campaign_n_1452899.html

almost feel like there's a lesson here...

goole, Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:23 (2 years ago) Permalink


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