nomination and discussion thread for possible top 100 electronic dance tracks of the 00s

If that's not clear enough I don't know what is :(

That would rule out poppy dance music acts like Basement Jaxx or The Chemical Brothers though; their music isn't "produced with the intention of it being heard in the context of a continuous DJ set" any more than Kylie's is.

I won't get into that. But I'd agree if we kinda start over and use that Wikipedia definition. Yes that means ruling out poppy dance music acts.

"How do you define "dance" anyway? Tracks with a dance beat, or tracks that actually gets played at dance clubs? Because there's plenty of stuff (like IDM, minimal techno) that would fit the former definition but not the latter."

and there's a lot of stuff that DJs will drop into a set that is blatantly not "electronic dance" but i think on the whole it's reasonably clear what we're voting for and hopefully outliers will just not get votes

― aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Friday, April 20, 2012 8:45 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This. End of discussion. Just vote and if you're the only one that votes for Kylie because you want to make a point and it doesn't make the results, then fine.

Awesome.

Kylie Minogue - Can't Get You Out of My Head

oh dear

Don't sweat it, just teasing.

Just vote and if you're the only one that votes for Kylie because you want to make a point and it doesn't make the results, then fine.

I did suggest this solution upthread, but since we now have Durrr disqualifying some of the nominations before the voting even starts, it's not as simple as "just vote".

Btw, I wouldn't vote Kylie "just because I want to make a point", but because I've danced my ass off to her tunes in a nightclub setting and enjoyed them as electronic dance music.

I mean, if you want to have a house/techno poll, I'm fine with this, just call it a house/techno poll. But dance music has always been larger than that, and it has always had some overlap with pop.

it's electronic dance, a.k.a. EDM. I guess we all agreed with that and I compromised for this after wanting only house and techno. but I guess it's not clear enough for you that stuff like Kylie are not EDM.

*compromised with

The Madonna track that should be here is "Sorry (Man With Guitar Remix)".

Or possibly "Erotica (Confessions Studio Extended Remix)".

Both of which I would choose as dancefloor bangers rather than pop songs.

I think that if someone can stoutly claim that the reason they are voting for something is that it's something they have danced to and enjoy dancing to, rather than because it's a good pop (or whatever) song that one could dance to, then that should be justification enough.

OH!

Speaking of which:

Beyonce - Ring The Alarm (Freemasons Remix)

And for the avoidance of doubt:

Madonna - Sorry (Man With Guitar Remix)

The only way this debate really matters is WRT things like LCD Soundsystem and Fever Ray that really would finish high up the poll and in LCD's case possibly win it. Arguing about the legitimacy of random remixes and ambient tracks or 00s Boards of Canada tracks that no-one cares about is just wasting time really because most of this stuff will just be washed out when people start voting anyway.

Beyonce - Ring The Alarm (Freemasons Remix)

Yes yes a million times yes! I knew there was something big and obvious and apocalyptic I was forgetting!

So apocalyptic we had wiped it from our memories, as if to protect ourselves from an after-image so bright it would burn our retinas.

In a similar vein, thank you Matt for nominating Quentin Harris' Space Battle Homo remix of Jennifer Hudson's Spotlight.

(Would I vote for the Wideboys Bassline remix of Soulja Boy's Yahh? Maaaaybe ...)

Actually, what are people's thoughts on bootlegs/mashups? Redundant since we can just vote for the underlying architracture? In particular DJ Earworm's Since You Been Gahan, stevem (of this parish)'s Brandarine Girl, and Frenchbloke (kind've of this parish)'s The Game Is Not Over/I, Bloodbrother Be bootleg.

Yeah I went back yesterday to ensure that "Spotlight" was present and correct.

In light of relistening to Jeffrey Mac's Ride The Disco Train mix:

Kerrier District - Let's Dance and Freak

:-(

I lost my Jeffrey Mac mixes.

The only way this debate really matters is WRT things like LCD Soundsystem and Fever Ray that really would finish high up the poll and in LCD's case possibly win it. Arguing about the legitimacy of random remixes and ambient tracks or 00s Boards of Canada tracks that no-one cares about is just wasting time really because most of this stuff will just be washed out when people start voting anyway.

― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, April 23, 2012 10:54 AM (59 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's why I'm against LCD, Fever Ray, and the likes. I'm also not sure about Chem Bros, Basement Jaxx, etc for the same reason.

Anyway:
Mr. V - Jus' Dance (Quentin Harris ReProduction)
Mr. V feat. Miss Patty - Da Bump (Ame Remix)

I don't really get that point... A poll like this is always a popularity contest, so why would it be wrong if one of the most popular dance acts of the 00s (which Basement Jaxx/LCD/Daft Punk/etc undoubtedly are) won it?

massive lols @ this thread is hilarious, can't wait, good work guys! so many awesome tracks i'd forgotten about too

because where's the excitement in that? you can go to pitchfork to see those names in the top 10. but anyway, I don't have strong enough reason to call them ineligible, except LCD.

how about you just edit out anything you don't like once everyone has submitted their ballot?

or maybe, anything that gets a vote can be discarded, then we'll be left with the real shit

how about you just edit out anything you don't like once everyone has submitted their ballot?

Seems like the way forward, starting a new with tighter criteria is lame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znHPTQqO388

how about you just edit out anything you don't like once everyone has submitted their ballot?

― Crackle Box, Monday, April 23, 2012 12:58 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's what I meant when I said kinda start over. but I won't do that without agreement from the majority.

how about when the results are in you can just edit stuff out with your imagination

nice idea and the fairest one

hopefully you guys mean edit the nominations, not the ballots

anyway for me the fear is not that pitchfork-type choices will crack the top 10 but that they will dominate the top 10. i personally have no problem w/ lcd topping the poll but i would be mighty disappointed if it was all lcd, the knife, etc in the top 10

but, now that pipecock's gone, i can confidently say i am the realest n***a alive. and even for me, the joy of seeing stuff i like in polls is not from seeing it dominate a list from the usual sources (for example, lwe) but rather from seeing stuff i like make the cut in unlikely places - from seeing, for example, ostgut-type techno crack the RA list, or from seeing functional dance music of any stripe infiltrate the pitchfork list.

in fact, i find "true. techno. music." sites like LWE pretty tedious when it comes to year-end listmaking and critical opinion, though i do appreciate them as a source for finding out about new music.

wait what was that really good idioteque remix again

and your point is? do you think something needs to be done about the lcd's and knifes? I mean, as pompous as this may sound, this poll can be a chance to bring out more house/techno to people. just see some enthusiastic reactions above from people who are not heavily into this kind of stuff.

xpost

lcd soundsystem should not be eligible

not that the world needs another list about how great that one shed album is or w/e either but i mean

Too long didn't read but anyhoo... remove BOC and Fever Ray from my noms.

can i remove some of mine too?

well i thought i was being fairly clear BUT if you need clarification i am arguing against "purity", and my thinking is that as much as i am a "real techno" fan (ie berlin-detroit axis oriented), i am not too interested in the question of whether EQD 001B places higher than workshop 08, but rather how EQD 001B might fare compared to jacques lu cont and michael mayer and lcd soundsystem.

FWIW I was thinking of nominating the Stuart Price extended version of Madonna's Hung Up, but it's not on YouTube and I can't remember exactly how it goes. But anything which there's an equivalent to an "Extended Club Mix" is fair game tbh.

That Stuart Price Remix of Hung Up

which I really loved at the time, but totally forgot about and as I seem to recall dancing to it a number of times at Optimo

Madonna - Hung Up (Stuart Price Extended Remix Dub)*

*how I have it named for whatever reason in my itunes

i like that song a lot but likely will not vote for it

perhaps would vote for his coldplay remix though, that was pretty epic

"talk" remix, not "viva la vida"

For your consideration beatportals top 30 club tracks of the decade. Some good choices that havent been nommed so far:
http://www.beatportal.com/feed/item/the-top-30-club-tracks-of-the-decade/

Price's "Mr. Brightside" remix is my favourite of his. Already been nominated though. It would be hard to just vote for one. He was pretty prolific for a while there.

i think the only one on that beatport list i'd nominate is

andré kraml - safari (james holden mix)

(shades of jae is actually from 1999)

well, i might nominate "bay of figs" and "the terrace" and maybe a couple of others but they are already on our list

kind of surprised switch's "this is sick" made it in, props, otherwisezzzzzzzzz