craftsmanship, consumerism, virtue, privilege, and quality

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an authentic new way to start your day! xp

zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Friday, 20 April 2012 02:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

maybe that just means they don't make the scones and the bagels out of the same dough anymore

everything in a dunkin donuts smells the same to me

zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Friday, 20 April 2012 02:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

man scott Hope & Olive looks great. there's like…two restaurants in Northampton that aren't just ludicrously overpriced for what they are, as far as I'm concerned. Which doesn't stop me from eating out more than I ought to.

raw feel vegan (silby), Friday, 20 April 2012 03:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

that is a solid comparison, scott. subaru wagons are like the genuinely useful unkillable car as far as i can tell

thx for the campers endorsement, Hurting. i'm looking for a good general use shoe that i could wear somewhere sort-of nice, to work, and just all the time and was looking at some. durability is key

man, i have this pair of born shoes that i should probably just swap out the laces and inner soles on, i wore them daily for yeeeears and they're still mostly good

mh, Friday, 20 April 2012 14:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

being repairable is a pretty strong signifier of 'quality' imho but not without reason

zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Friday, 20 April 2012 14:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah I have these:

Dressy enough for work, easy to dress down, more or less oxford styled but have kind of a unique profile, great soles, very comfortable soft leather.

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Friday, 20 April 2012 14:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Kind of wish they didn't have the "camper" tag on them. That's one of my main beefs with camper.

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Friday, 20 April 2012 14:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

whereas the cole haan oxfords I had, once they split at the seams, couldn't really be properly repaired (unless the shoe repair guy I went to was just very bad at his craft). But that was also before cole haan upped its brand, so maybe they're better now.

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Friday, 20 April 2012 14:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

didn't they get bought by nike, though? I think some of their shoes are probably good but the more casual ones are like "woo we have nike air pouches in this" and I even saw a couple with the little window in the heel so you could see the air pouch and I was disgusted by the fact someone might think seeing that on a casual shoe or dress shoe was a good idea

mh, Friday, 20 April 2012 15:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha mh, no love for the cole haan LUNARGRANDS?

zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Friday, 20 April 2012 15:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

I fucking hate those.

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Friday, 20 April 2012 15:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

those are still not nearly as bad as the generic dressy casual shoes with the fucking air bubble windows!

which says a lot

mh, Friday, 20 April 2012 15:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah this is a really fucking great idea

mh, Friday, 20 April 2012 15:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh good god

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Friday, 20 April 2012 15:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

those look like kmart shoes

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Friday, 20 April 2012 15:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

oof

zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Friday, 20 April 2012 15:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

I know, right?

mh, Friday, 20 April 2012 15:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

do those come with a pair of off-white compression socks because that is how i imagine them being worn

zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Friday, 20 April 2012 16:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

hot look: gym teacher at church

goole, Friday, 20 April 2012 16:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

you've met my father, right? just toss on a pair of wranglers and a bugle boy polo and you've got the man

fka snush (remy bean), Friday, 20 April 2012 16:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

the clothes encircle the man

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Friday, 20 April 2012 22:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

So, have we talked about this yet?
http://nymag.com/nymag/toc/20120423/

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 26 April 2012 21:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

wow talk about threadbait. i'm gonna dig in with handmade fork and knife!

scott seward, Thursday, 26 April 2012 22:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

it is a lot of fun writing sentences like this:

"More than anyone else in the New Brooklyn artisan movement, they exemplify to an almost implausible degree the daguerreotype stereotype of the bristly hipster, in newsboy cap and tweed britches, pedaling his penny-farthing to a north Brooklyn industrial space to make handcrafted nano-batch sweetmeats."

scott seward, Thursday, 26 April 2012 22:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

scott seward, Thursday, 26 April 2012 22:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

not to be too confusing, but THESE Mast brothers are actually hipper. Singing ancient folk song while cleaning golf balls:

scott seward, Thursday, 26 April 2012 22:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

where IS christopher guest during all this? he has really dropped the ball. allowing indie rockers to steal his comic thunder via portlandia.

scott seward, Thursday, 26 April 2012 22:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Plutocrats of a certain stripe like their baubles to come with meaningful, brow-furrowing backstories, and the artisans, with their small-scale production and deliberate inefficiencies and expensive ingredients, need the postindustrial wealthy to buy their $14 pickles and $10 granola. The buyer of $9 jam, after all, isn’t another maker of $9 jam. It’s the guy whose multinational robotic assembly line spits out jars of $1 jam. Or it’s his trustafarian son, the Global Jam Logistics heir. Or it’s the private-equity guy who just offshored GJL to a sweatshop in Bangalore."

scott seward, Thursday, 26 April 2012 22:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

they put a bird on it

scott seward, Thursday, 26 April 2012 22:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

we did talk about it. itt I think. or another.

iatee, Thursday, 26 April 2012 22:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

I bought my wife a Mast Brothers bar for Easter and now she's worried that there might be beard hairs in it.

Moodles, Thursday, 26 April 2012 22:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh right now i'm remembering that everyone in brooklyn hates the By Brooklyn thing. or people here do. or someone did. cuz you gotta hate yer own kind if you live there.

scott seward, Thursday, 26 April 2012 22:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

I realized reading this article that as much as I sometimes get grumpy about all this stuff, I kind of can't really come up with any well-reasoned critique of it. I mean ok, it's niche luxury goods with a vague moral veneer. But it also represents, at its best, genuine dedication to craft and meaningful, enjoyable employment for a good number of people.

At the end of the day I just can't afford to stock my entire fridge with this sort of products. I can pay a few $ more per pound for the locally roasted coffee, drink the locally brewed beer from time to time and maybe enjoy the occasional treat at smorgasburg. I'm not going to stock my entire condiment shelf with $9 mayo, $14 pickles, $12 ketchup, etc. I guess the gimmickyness of all of it gets irritating at times, as does the false nostalgia (it's not like 19th century craft industries operated with any special attention to morality, fair trade, fair labor practices, etc.). But whatever, if the people who can afford this stuff want to pay for it, I don't really see the loss. If anything, it goes with my general belief in wealth recapture via overcharging the rich.

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 April 2012 14:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

p much

iatee, Friday, 27 April 2012 15:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

this country has never been very good at being european. but i guess ya gotta try. or move to quebec.

scott seward, Friday, 27 April 2012 15:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

Something very American and un-European about this movement's heavy reliance on novelty, actually.

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 April 2012 15:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

hurting consistently otm

THE KITTEN TYPE (contenderizer), Friday, 27 April 2012 15:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

But whatever, if the people who can afford this stuff want to pay for it, I don't really see the loss. If anything, it goes with my general belief in wealth recapture via overcharging the rich.

especially this. back in the 80s, the yuppies had the brilliant insight that we could all live basically as wage slaves no matter how much we happened to make, so long as our sense of "the necessities" were properly calibrated to our income bracket.

THE KITTEN TYPE (contenderizer), Friday, 27 April 2012 15:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

that's why i said this country has never been very good at it!

x-posts

scott seward, Friday, 27 April 2012 15:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

people can't just make their lovingly crafted stuff and be quiet about it. gotta have an angle and a little razamataz. hotchacha!

scott seward, Friday, 27 April 2012 15:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

gotta hava gimmick!

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 April 2012 15:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

"flint and tinder"

would set fire to all this menswear

the late great, Monday, 30 April 2012 17:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

which part is the flint and which is the tinder?

i'm guessing the penis is the tinder. and flint balls.

zubaz fupa (elmo argonaut), Monday, 30 April 2012 18:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Incidentally, can someone explain kickstarter projects to me? Like why do people "pledge" money for someone's for-profit venture?

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Monday, 30 April 2012 18:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Well they often get products in return for one thing.

raw feel vegan (silby), Monday, 30 April 2012 18:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah but in this case it's like $5 or more for some matches.

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Monday, 30 April 2012 18:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Some projects make sense -- they take a certain amount of money to get off the ground, so you're basically paying for the first round of a product in advance for a discount, or you want the product to exist so you throw in a few bucks.

The ones where there's a ton of levels of funding but you don't get anything are... more nebulous

mh, Monday, 30 April 2012 19:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

louis black on the daily show yesterday touched on this artisanal thing.

koogs, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

pretty good routine: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-may-1-2012/back-in-black---artisanal-foods

s.clover, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 18:52 (2 years ago) Permalink


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