artisanal compost from local vegetables no doubt
― the late great, Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:40 (twelve years ago) link
and fertilizer does not necessarily come from chile. iirc, most of it comes from the composter.
i'm not sure what your point is here. yes, things come from all over. no, no one is perfect. but that doesn't mean that it's foolish to pay attention to where your food comes from, or that you can't accomplish some modest good by eating locally produced food where possible.
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:41 (twelve years ago) link
it is really easy to make your own compost...? wtf
― drum hitler gets full publishing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:41 (twelve years ago) link
Do ppl still do worm composting?
― Jeff, Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:42 (twelve years ago) link
every household generates organic waste, it isn't that hard to collect it.
― drum hitler gets full publishing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:42 (twelve years ago) link
more hipster knife talk please! this is where i come for my hipster hatchet talk!
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:43 (twelve years ago) link
sorry. but wasn't there just some huge thread about the evils of local produce?
was it this one? i think it was another one.
I think it was
― iatee, Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:44 (twelve years ago) link
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Th1FOsmBlYE/TwtY5IvXD4I/AAAAAAAADWQ/64_DaA9ydtU/s400/842.fd.YNTKAwhaleknives.jpg
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:44 (twelve years ago) link
i keep getting the quiddity thread and this thread and now the gentrification thread confused! i don't know where i am anymore.
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:45 (twelve years ago) link
my point is that your green consumerism backpatting indicates shallow and facile thinking
if i seem het up its cause i get annoyed when people tell me things are "obvious" and then spout a bunch of crap
― the late great, Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:45 (twelve years ago) link
quiddity thread and this thread kinda my fave ile threads though. i'm no hater. they speak to me.
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:46 (twelve years ago) link
we're doing the farmshare thing this year. we will be making a lot of soup. well, we're splitting a share with someone else.
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:47 (twelve years ago) link
perhaps, but you're not offering any kind of substantive rebuttal. you're just snarking douchily at me (see above).
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:49 (twelve years ago) link
i honestly don't see any sin in my use of the world "obviously" a few posts back. if that sort of thing really gets your tits up, i recommend 3 beers.
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:50 (twelve years ago) link
implication being that green consumerism is NOT the issue, it's the attitude you detect behind people spouting off about it. these are separate issues.
― drum hitler gets full publishing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:51 (twelve years ago) link
no, actually the issue is that 'green consumerism' is an oxymoron
― iatee, Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:52 (twelve years ago) link
I'm just quoting him, it's not a term I support
― drum hitler gets full publishing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:53 (twelve years ago) link
didn't you make a thread about this where I pwnd you some more
― iatee, Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:54 (twelve years ago) link
I remember that vaguely
don't think anybody's gonna argue that consuming less >>>>>>>> consuming "green"
lol
― drum hitler gets full publishing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:54 (twelve years ago) link
what would be substantive here?
my experiences on my former brother in laws local organic farm? the work i did w the chino family farm? my two years experience in the artisanal food industry? the summer i spent w my grandfather trekking around the central valley as he studied water table issues w pomegranate farms? my geochemistry internship at scripps? the ES classes I taught?
do tell.
― the late great, Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:54 (twelve years ago) link
it needn't be phrased that way. we might just as well say "environmentally conscious consumption". one can obviously use one's power as a consumer to encourage environmentally responsible practices.
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:55 (twelve years ago) link
― iatee, Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:55 (twelve years ago) link
I'd rank approaches to living responsibly in the modern world as follows1) consume as little as possible2) consume as responsibly as possible3) encourage others to do likewise/live by example4) argue on the internet about it
― drum hitler gets full publishing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:57 (twelve years ago) link
no, you tell. if there's something i've said that you think is wrong, show me the error of my ways. i'm not claiming that locavorism is an absolute good, or that all supposedly "green" practices are better than anything else.
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:57 (twelve years ago) link
I'm gonna have those three beers now, you're not going to stop talking out yr ass until you get yr head out of it and i can't give you lived experience or book learning on a message board
― the late great, Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:57 (twelve years ago) link
my experiences on my former brother in laws local organic farm
lol as opposed to your brother-in-law's non-local organic farm that you commute to via jetpack?
defensive much?
anyway gotta go eat dinner at the local organic mexican restaurant seeya
― drum hitler gets full publishing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:58 (twelve years ago) link
lol wut? are you saying that consumption patterns affect nothing?
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:58 (twelve years ago) link
you're not going to stop talking out yr ass until you get yr head out of it and i can't give you lived experience or book learning on a message board
again with the douchey, egocentric blather. any point one might wish to make can be made on a message board just as easily as it might be made elsewhere. i'm not asking for scientific proof. just something other than snide bullshit (a valuable fertilizer).
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:00 (twelve years ago) link
the chino family! i love them! great acrobatic team.
― scott seward, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
holy shit you guys type fast. r.i.p. beloved hipster hatchet thread...
chile is a pretty good strawman, but most of my vegetables come from the central valley which is a lot closer than where my agua comes from
― the late great, Thursday, April 19, 2012 7:35 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I think the continuing water-management disaster that is southern California's probably a more pernicious evil than locavores.
― raw feel vegan (silby), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:02 (twelve years ago) link
scott come to noho sometime we can go to the dirty truth or sthing and eat local organic artisanal hamburgers or w/e and talk about hatchets and what we would do with them
I'd come to greenfield but I don't have a car or a bike or any concept of what direction greenfield is in
― raw feel vegan (silby), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:03 (twelve years ago) link
wait no I do have a bike
do it then!
― scott seward, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:05 (twelve years ago) link
anyway my craftsmanship, consumerism, virtue, privilege, and quality story for the month is how I bought a pair of Grado SR-60is at B&H when I was visiting New York last month, then easily sold the Bose headphones I had been given as a gift some time ago for more than I paid for the Grados.
what sorta stuff do you guys buy that's better and cheaper and more awesome than the more widely-marketed equivalent?
― raw feel vegan (silby), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:06 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.whitmanscrystalclean.com/images/service_map_large.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:06 (twelve years ago) link
take the 5 & 10 by bike to greenfield from noho.
― scott seward, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:08 (twelve years ago) link
i know the guy who runs the kitchen at the dirty truth. he's in a band called bunny's a swine.
― scott seward, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:09 (twelve years ago) link
might be further than I can manage on a bike right now, I actually just got a new bike and there's many ways in which I'm not in good shape.
and when will the tyranny of bands named for kinds of mammals end I ask you
― raw feel vegan (silby), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:10 (twelve years ago) link
this thread could basically be the "things people who live in northampton buy" thread anyway afaict
― raw feel vegan (silby), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:11 (twelve years ago) link
silby, you should at least come to greenfield to go to hope & olive. its worth the trip. here are the specials this week:
Bunny Mary chili infused tequila, fresh carrot, horseradish, cilantro and a toasted cumin-salt rim 9WINE SPECIAL tempranillo blend, alaia, spain. dark fruit, and coffee notes. earthy and delicious 6Crispy Matzo Brei with maple ricotta and pear-sour cherry compote 9The Antipasto Bread Board sopresatta, provolone, roast pepper and tapenade 10Alaskan Halibut in parchment with fennel, roast potato and parsnip, cauliflower, braised greens and horseradish-grapefruit butter 23Spiced Brisket spinach and garlic whipped potato, pickled carrot, grilled endive and a leek, apricot, almond and apple haroset 19Tortilla Pie masa, black beans, grilled poblano chilies, greens, roast corn, jack cheese, avocado, chipotle-lime cream, tomatilla salsa& jicama slaw 16.5
― scott seward, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:14 (twelve years ago) link
its so funny that northampton is like 20 minutes away and a totally different world. i feel like a bumkin when i go there now. rich people! with little rich children in matching clothes! you can't get away with that in greenfield. if you are rich you still dress like a farmer. rich people in farmer drag. i love everyone though. except the co-op crowd. them i can do without.
― scott seward, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:18 (twelve years ago) link
I think I should move to Greenfield.
― improvised explosive advice (WmC), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:30 (twelve years ago) link
That's like the menu of 2 out of every 3 new restaurants that open in Chicago.
― Jeff, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:32 (twelve years ago) link
Or it says this:
Our menus are written by hand each day as we shop the markets, meet with our farmers, and develop new ideas.
― Jeff, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:33 (twelve years ago) link
can you buy a 2000 square foot house for $136,000 in chicago?
http://www.trulia.com/property/1040601802-31-West-St-Greenfield-MA-01301
― scott seward, Friday, 20 April 2012 00:42 (twelve years ago) link