THE VAULT OF ILX Top 100 HORROR Movies Poll Voting Thread (voting closes May 9)

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watched Repulsion (finally) last night. awesome. was this controversial/a big deal when it was released? It seems several steps beyond Psycho, which was just a few years earlier.

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was pleased that Watcher in the Woods was on there. It was My First Horror Movie!.

yeah, I nommed it cuz it was one of my first, too. loved it at the time, though i haven't seen it in forever.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

LL, The Pit is on the nomination list and a certain person you live with wasn't even involved in the process.

Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

See, I knew you all would take care of me.

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Another film I really want to go to bat for here is Dementia, aka Daughter of Horror. One of the most remarkable films I've ever seen, an hour-long, dialogue-free, first-person Freudian head trip from 1955 that follows a frightened and disturbed young woman down a rabbit hole of her own making. It's similar in many ways to Polanski's Repulsion, dealing as it does with sexual psychosis, and also to the films of David Lynch, especially Mulholland Dr. and Inland Empire. It's hard to believe, in fact, that Lynch and Polanski didn't crib heavily from it. The soundtrack is gorgeous, and the stylized, deliberately artificial imagery recalls German expressionist filmmakers like Weine and Murnau. It's scary, brave, campy, arguably feminist and deliriously surreal. Hard to believe that it was made five years before Hitchcock's Psycho. Would make my top 10 list even if this poll wasn't limited to horror films.

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yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

holy crap will watch!

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

wow great stills

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

thx

not quite horror but I would recommend Suddenly Last Summer for the atmosphere/sense of terror as well

Chris S, Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

one of the charms of marebito is that shimizu shot it in 8 days and basically was using it as a palate cleanser between ju-on and the usa grudge, which obv doesnt add merit to the film inherently but does make the result kind of amazing. it def doesnt feel like a speed run film at all.

Badu and a sax run hand-in-hand (jjjusten), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Re Watcher in the Woods, it was an earlyish scary movie for me, too -- I guess I was 10 or so. Remember it being spooky but not much else about it. The movie that did scare the living hell out of me at that age (or maybe a year earlier?) was the Body Snatchers remake, which is definitely going on my ballot. I think I literally didn't sleep for a few nights afterward. (Actually, the original Body Snatchers might make the ballot, too.)

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

I still feel the terror when I see Mitch McConnell

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Dementia / Daughter Of Horror seconded, the DVD I have actually has 2 versions, one with narration and one (the original I think) without.

Weird retro art horror fans, check out Jigoku! It's very strange.



O00O0O00O (Matt #2), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

O00O0O00O (Matt #2), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah jigoku is rad. dementia's been on my to-watch list for years.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

putting together my ballot is reconfirming my love of downbeat 70s b-movies: let's scare jessica to death, shock waves, shivers, homebodies, lemora, messiah of evil, deathdream, the other. try to creep me out while employing glacial pacing, a burbling electronic score, and lots of film grain, apparently I will love you forever.

in some weird way I consider the evil dead to be part of this tradition except everything's turned up to 11.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

one of the charms of marebito is that shimizu shot it in 8 days and basically was using it as a palate cleanser between ju-on and the usa grudge, which obv doesnt add merit to the film inherently but does make the result kind of amazing. it def doesnt feel like a speed run film at all.

― Badu and a sax run hand-in-hand (jjjusten), Thursday, April 19, 2012 10:05 AM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It does and doesn't, imo. I'm not surprised that it was shot in a hurry, but it never feels rushed or thrown together. It often has a distinctly improvisational feel, like I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Shimizu just told Tsuakamoto to react silently to situations and characters about which he knew little in advance. I love how fragmentary and loosely connected it all is, though nothing feels unfinished or unanswered in the end.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Obviously this is Eric's and Pillbox's call, but my own feeling on stills: atmospheric/moody rather than bloody corpses/exploding heads. I know many would strongly disagree.

― clemenza, Thursday, April 19, 2012 3:45 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't know, I think the stills should either be representative or intriguing images, and I imagine there'll be a fair few placers that would need bloody corpses/exploding heads to fulfil the 'representative requirement'.

Also, crap, Dementia is going on my to-watch list.

emil.y, Thursday, 19 April 2012 18:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

I want to strongly campaign for 964 Pinocchio but I know next to no one has seen it :'(

Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 19 April 2012 18:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also am ashamed w/ how many films on this list I haven't even seen (Jigoku, Kwaidan, Onibaba, The Thing, Phantasm, etc...)

Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 19 April 2012 18:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

more ppl have seen pinocchio 764 than you think, ilxors have repped for it before. don't think rubber's lover was nommed.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 18:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wd also rep for Lord of Illusions but everyone seems to hate that one too

Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 19 April 2012 18:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like 964 Pinocchio and Rubber's Lover quite a bit, but probably not enough to push either into my top 50. Would like to see the former again, as it's been at least 15 years.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 18:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hey, for anyone curious about Dementia but unable to a hold of a proper copy (it's available through Netflix), it can be viewed in criminally low quality on YouTube. Not recommended, but might do in a pinch:

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 18:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Stevie D, you must see Kwaidan.... it is available in a beautiful Criterion edition. AND Eric hates it!

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like onibaba more than kwaidan... but I would

surprised ugetsu wasn't nommed tho maybe that's more fantasy than horror? been a long time since I've seen it and don't remember much about it.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Not a big Kwaidan fan. Lovely but rather inert, imo.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

According to DVDBeaver the Criterion DVD has fucked-up colors and 20 minutes of missing footage :(

Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Not enough missing imo. (just kidding. I don't hate that movie. I just think its no ugetsu. Or creepshow.)

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Creepshow otm

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yes, inert is a good word.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

I LOVE Ugetsu-it is one of my favorite movies-but it never would have occured to me to nominate it in a horror poll.

MrDasher, Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

re Kwaidan:

•A 163 minute version is now available on Region 1 DVD as a part of the Criterion Collection. The (Region 2) Masters of Cinema DVD is the first video release to contain the full 183 minutes of the original Japanese cut of the film.

•Originally a four-episode anthology released in Japan at 183 minutes. The USA version removes the second episode, starring Keiko Kishi and Tatsuya Nakadai, in order to shorten the running time to 125 minutes.

So really, at the time the CC was released I guess they couldn't get their hands on the original material. It was enough that they restored the fourth episode that had been completely excised from the US release.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

well Ugetsu is nominally a ghost story, like The Uninvited.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

From what I remember, Ugetsu was mildly freakier than Kwaidan.

But I'll stop, since it's bad manners for the poll host to engage in politicking.

jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

A ghost story may or may not be horror, I would say.

I never found Ugetsu horrifying or freaky, maybe in part because I identify with the ghost.

MrDasher, Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Just previewed the first couple minutes of "Dementia." Wow, that does look amazing. Soprano in the credits music is Marni Nixon!

Advanced Uncle Meat recovery system (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Not that you can't be horrified while identifying with the source of horror...or even because you identify with the source of horror...
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MrDasher, Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't think netflix has Dementia on disc does it? I really don't want to watch it on youtube. I think the half hour, public service film Apaches is about as far as I'm willing to go down that route.

MrDasher, Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

Have been thinking about the relationship of "ghost story" to "horror" ever since I first saw The Devil's Backbone (which I will be seriously voting for, btw). It's in many respects a straight drama, and the ghost is more a figure of sympathetic pity than fear, but I nonetheless consider it one of the best horror movies of the last decade or so. The combination of supernatural elements, gothic atmosphere, creepy suspense and occasional jolts of real terror are enough to convince me that it belongs on my ballot.

The ghost story is one of the most basic and essential "scary story" models, and tbh, I'm inclined to consider almost any at least moderately creepy movie featuring ghosts part of the horror genre.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't think netflix has Dementia on disc does it? I really don't want to watch it on youtube. I think the half hour, public service film Apaches is about as far as I'm willing to go down that route.

It had copies of the Kino edition a few years back. Haven't checked recently. And yeah, it's gonna suffer for the low tube quality a lot more than Apaches.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

there are plenty of movies with ghosts I wouldn't consider horror, anything from ghost to fanny and alexander

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

harry potter

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

etc

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Speaking of things that are on youtube in fairly poor quality, I would like to rep once more for The Signalman. It's a 40-minute film, so possibly bearable in this format, but I haven't watched it through myself. Almost certainly my favourite Ghost Story for Christmas.

emil.y, Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think "fantasy" is a suitable label for non-horror films featuring ghosts

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

there are plenty of movies with ghosts I wouldn't consider horror, anything from ghost to fanny and alexander

...harry potter

yeah, that's why i threw in "almost" and "moderately creepy" as qualifiers. like if creepiness and scariness seems to be a substantial part of the point, and if it's got non-comedy ghosts, then i'll probably a horror movie. of course it's arguable that creepiness and scariness are "a substantial part of the point" in the later harry potter films, so it's a judgement call more than a hard-and-fast rule.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

"seems"

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

ugh

"...then i'll probably consider it a horror movie"

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

I did cut Pan's Labyrinth cuz it feels more like "dark fantasy" than horror to me, so the distinction I'm observing is obviously vanishingly thin.

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Courtesy of my lurker, these movies were ;_; missing from the nom list (I take responsibility for not participating, just answering the question from like a zillion posts ago)

Wicked, Wicked
I Can See You
From a Whisper to a Scream
Just Before Dawn
Who Can Kill a Child?
Wendigo

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:12 (2 years ago) Permalink


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