That reminds me of the existence of What's the Matter with Helen? Not that I remember if it's good or not but I think it's in the same vein?There were actually a number of things I was thinking of nominating but didn't for some reason or another. Some of them got nominated but other people, some didn't.
― MrDasher, Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
the only thing on the missing list I thought I would've voted for was burnt offerings, but looking at my ballot now it didn't have a chance tbh
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
What's the Matter with Helen?
B- psychobiddy
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
I have this at home but haven't watched either one.
http://content9.flixster.com/movie/11/12/36/11123615_det.jpg
― clemenza, Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
Hag horror! I love it.
― two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
Was going to mention What's the Matter with Helen next!!! I think it's better than Auntie Roo by a pretty wide margin.
― two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link
Neither are as good as Baby Jane -- not even Charlotte -- but for color + splashy + crazy old ladies, you can't go wrong with Helen or Roo.
― two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
and don't forget mark lester as a murdering preteen sociopath in night hair child, possibly the best name for a film ever
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
Which is a good time to mention a dreadful TV movie that scared me silly in the early '70s: The Devil's Daughter, with Shelly in the Ruth Gordon role.
http://cdn100.iofferphoto.com/img3/item/383/583/548/the-devil-s-daughter-1973-dvd-shelley-winters-rare-d916a.jpg
Abe Vigoda!
― clemenza, Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
Watched Marebito last night on jjjusten's recommendation. It's a low-budget Japanese horror film by Takashi Shimizu, director of both the Japanese and American vesions of Ju-On/The Grudge, and starring Shin'ya Tsukamoto, director of Tetsuo, the Iron Man and its sequels. Pretty great! I don't know that it's a masterpiece, but it reminded me a lot of Kiyoshi Kurosawa films like Cure and Pulse, spliced together with Tsukamoto's punk experimentalism, Shimizu's finely-honed creepiness, and lots of nods to Lovecraftian pulp horror. Dreamlike, strange and quite unpredictable.
http://i2.listal.com/image/1122254/600full-marebito-screenshot.jpg
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
Holy shit, must see The Devil's Daughter!!
― two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
I was pleased that Watcher in the Woods was on there. It was My First Horror Movie!
― two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link
xxp - The international title, A Stranger from Afar, gives a pretty good idea of the film's themes and tone, plus sounds very much like something Lovecraft or one of his contemporaries might have written.
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link
watched Repulsion (finally) last night. awesome. was this controversial/a big deal when it was released? It seems several steps beyond Psycho, which was just a few years earlier.
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link
I was pleased that Watcher in the Woods was on there. It was My First Horror Movie!.
yeah, I nommed it cuz it was one of my first, too. loved it at the time, though i haven't seen it in forever.
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
LL, The Pit is on the nomination list and a certain person you live with wasn't even involved in the process.
― Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
See, I knew you all would take care of me.
― two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link
Another film I really want to go to bat for here is Dementia, aka Daughter of Horror. One of the most remarkable films I've ever seen, an hour-long, dialogue-free, first-person Freudian head trip from 1955 that follows a frightened and disturbed young woman down a rabbit hole of her own making. It's similar in many ways to Polanski's Repulsion, dealing as it does with sexual psychosis, and also to the films of David Lynch, especially Mulholland Dr. and Inland Empire. It's hard to believe, in fact, that Lynch and Polanski didn't crib heavily from it. The soundtrack is gorgeous, and the stylized, deliberately artificial imagery recalls German expressionist filmmakers like Weine and Murnau. It's scary, brave, campy, arguably feminist and deliriously surreal. Hard to believe that it was made five years before Hitchcock's Psycho. Would make my top 10 list even if this poll wasn't limited to horror films.
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― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
holy crap will watch!
― two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
wow great stills
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
thx
not quite horror but I would recommend Suddenly Last Summer for the atmosphere/sense of terror as well
― Chris S, Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
one of the charms of marebito is that shimizu shot it in 8 days and basically was using it as a palate cleanser between ju-on and the usa grudge, which obv doesnt add merit to the film inherently but does make the result kind of amazing. it def doesnt feel like a speed run film at all.
― Badu and a sax run hand-in-hand (jjjusten), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
Re Watcher in the Woods, it was an earlyish scary movie for me, too -- I guess I was 10 or so. Remember it being spooky but not much else about it. The movie that did scare the living hell out of me at that age (or maybe a year earlier?) was the Body Snatchers remake, which is definitely going on my ballot. I think I literally didn't sleep for a few nights afterward. (Actually, the original Body Snatchers might make the ballot, too.)
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link
I still feel the terror when I see Mitch McConnell
http://images.politico.com/global/news/100913_mitch_mcconnell_ap_328.jpg
― two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
Dementia / Daughter Of Horror seconded, the DVD I have actually has 2 versions, one with narration and one (the original I think) without.
Weird retro art horror fans, check out Jigoku! It's very strange.
http://nicolasheller.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/jigoku-screenshot-15.jpghttp://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDReviews24/a%20jigoku%20criterion%20dvd/a%20jogoku%20JIGOKU-19.jpghttp://subwaycinemanews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Jigoku1-759562.jpg
― O00O0O00O (Matt #2), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
http://srv14.movie-list.net/sexmaniac/img/jigoku2.jpg
― O00O0O00O (Matt #2), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link
yeah jigoku is rad. dementia's been on my to-watch list for years.
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
putting together my ballot is reconfirming my love of downbeat 70s b-movies: let's scare jessica to death, shock waves, shivers, homebodies, lemora, messiah of evil, deathdream, the other. try to creep me out while employing glacial pacing, a burbling electronic score, and lots of film grain, apparently I will love you forever.
in some weird way I consider the evil dead to be part of this tradition except everything's turned up to 11.
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
― Badu and a sax run hand-in-hand (jjjusten), Thursday, April 19, 2012 10:05 AM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It does and doesn't, imo. I'm not surprised that it was shot in a hurry, but it never feels rushed or thrown together. It often has a distinctly improvisational feel, like I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Shimizu just told Tsuakamoto to react silently to situations and characters about which he knew little in advance. I love how fragmentary and loosely connected it all is, though nothing feels unfinished or unanswered in the end.
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link
Obviously this is Eric's and Pillbox's call, but my own feeling on stills: atmospheric/moody rather than bloody corpses/exploding heads. I know many would strongly disagree.
― clemenza, Thursday, April 19, 2012 3:45 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I don't know, I think the stills should either be representative or intriguing images, and I imagine there'll be a fair few placers that would need bloody corpses/exploding heads to fulfil the 'representative requirement'.
Also, crap, Dementia is going on my to-watch list.
― emil.y, Thursday, 19 April 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
I want to strongly campaign for 964 Pinocchio but I know next to no one has seen it :'(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SHlSJIw99o
― Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 19 April 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
Also am ashamed w/ how many films on this list I haven't even seen (Jigoku, Kwaidan, Onibaba, The Thing, Phantasm, etc...)
― Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 19 April 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
more ppl have seen pinocchio 764 than you think, ilxors have repped for it before. don't think rubber's lover was nommed.
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
Wd also rep for Lord of Illusions but everyone seems to hate that one too
― Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 19 April 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link
I like 964 Pinocchio and Rubber's Lover quite a bit, but probably not enough to push either into my top 50. Would like to see the former again, as it's been at least 15 years.
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link
Hey, for anyone curious about Dementia but unable to a hold of a proper copy (it's available through Netflix), it can be viewed in criminally low quality on YouTube. Not recommended, but might do in a pinch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMeSo_4aIBU
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link
Stevie D, you must see Kwaidan.... it is available in a beautiful Criterion edition. AND Eric hates it!
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
I like onibaba more than kwaidan... but I would
surprised ugetsu wasn't nommed tho maybe that's more fantasy than horror? been a long time since I've seen it and don't remember much about it.
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link
Not a big Kwaidan fan. Lovely but rather inert, imo.
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
According to DVDBeaver the Criterion DVD has fucked-up colors and 20 minutes of missing footage :(
― Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
Not enough missing imo. (just kidding. I don't hate that movie. I just think its no ugetsu. Or creepshow.)
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link
Creepshow otm
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link
Yes, inert is a good word.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link
I LOVE Ugetsu-it is one of my favorite movies-but it never would have occured to me to nominate it in a horror poll.
― MrDasher, Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link
re Kwaidan:
•A 163 minute version is now available on Region 1 DVD as a part of the Criterion Collection. The (Region 2) Masters of Cinema DVD is the first video release to contain the full 183 minutes of the original Japanese cut of the film.
•Originally a four-episode anthology released in Japan at 183 minutes. The USA version removes the second episode, starring Keiko Kishi and Tatsuya Nakadai, in order to shorten the running time to 125 minutes.
So really, at the time the CC was released I guess they couldn't get their hands on the original material. It was enough that they restored the fourth episode that had been completely excised from the US release.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
well Ugetsu is nominally a ghost story, like The Uninvited.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link
From what I remember, Ugetsu was mildly freakier than Kwaidan.
But I'll stop, since it's bad manners for the poll host to engage in politicking.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link
A ghost story may or may not be horror, I would say.
I never found Ugetsu horrifying or freaky, maybe in part because I identify with the ghost.
― MrDasher, Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link
Just previewed the first couple minutes of "Dementia." Wow, that does look amazing. Soprano in the credits music is Marni Nixon!
― Advanced Uncle Meat recovery system (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link
Not that you can't be horrified while identifying with the source of horror...or even because you identify with the source of horror...(xpost)
― MrDasher, Thursday, 19 April 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link