Best Current DJ

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I really like Ben UFO but thought his Rinse CD was pretty much just okay to quite good. ""serious" techno/house w/ heavily swung urban stuff like ukg, post-dubstep, dubstep, grime, etc" is a great concept but the results can seem a lot less startling than you'd think.

Though speaking of which where is Surgeon on this list.

If you want to account for these differences then do not call this "best current dj" . How about "Best current tech house/minimal non-digital dj".

fwiw i agree his rinse mix was not quite thee best representation of his talents and btw it is quite strange how almost every rinse mix has been underwhelming given the quality of the DJs they pick (well excepting like n-type)

though it also took me many listens to really get into it

a high percentage of music that has no digital release

loads of djs buy vinyl specifically to digitise it.

i've found that a lot of "official" cd mixes have been underwhelming, especially in comparison with what those DJs actually play out

levon vincent's new fabric mix is an honourable exception but that's in large part b/c he did a ricardo/omar-s and made it largely about his own stuff

i've found that a lot of "official" cd mixes have been underwhelming, especially in comparison with what those DJs actually play out

^ this all day long

licensing issues maybe?

The more hyphens on this thread, the more interesting the discussion.

maybe partly that, maybe partly because the djs seem to try to compress everything they're about into too short a time when they're handed the reins of these projects, and partly because too many of them have a weakness for thom fucking yorke

there are so many unlicensed mixes that the ones that filter to the top are always going to be great. it's an unlimited testing ground. i can only imagine that licensing issues must be huge though given what must be a miniscule buying audience for licensed mixes.

first sentence sounds a bit optimistic, but basically mean the djs get as many goes as they want with unlicensed mixes, it only takes one good one.

excellent point

but what are you getting at re: hyphens??

also lex sadly otm re: thom fucking yorke, esp wrt "idioteque"

fucking "idioteque", ugh

it's kind of sad in a way cuz there have been so many classic licensed mix CDs but kind of not now that we're unbelievably spoiled with the amount of free mixes available

i guess enough of a market for them is still there that fabric, djkicks, berghain et al haven't just wrapped up their CD series

hyphens

just i find post-adjective-genre really grim.

eh come on more complaining about dance genre names?

Sonny D. Moore

there is a certain context in which the genre names vying against each other is just like the disintegration of discussion.

which i'm prob way too circumspect about, but still

is it brostep?

i've got not problem with post-isms but what's an example of post-minimal out of curiosity

soundstream, efdemin, etc

pantha du prince, steffi, art dept, etc

Basically any deep house-ish stuff made by people who would have been making minimal back in 2005/2006.

In typical fashion it now seems that post-minimal's moment has stretched a fair amount longer than that of minimal itself.

tim seems to grok

what people call post-minimal prob existed before or certainly during minimal. here we go...

Sure, but what people call post-dubstep also existed before or certainly during dubstep - if you take any "post-" genre this is basically the case.

One can nitpick these things and act SHOCKED that not all music lines up into a neat chronological series of genre developments, but... do we really have to go through that moment of revelation in 2012?

Surgeon, Donato Dozzy, 2562/A Made Up Sound, Intergalactic Gary... So many other great DJs not on this poll.

Dan Bell would be my choice out of those listed.

i'm not really nitpicking, more that i just have a problem with this idea of minimal as some distinct thing, it never was until it became a derogatory term and everyone at that point just meant m_nus. all this has been hashed out before though.

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This is when I first started to think of "minimal" as a thing:

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Loco Dice was probably also the first "star of minimal" in the sense of having zero rep beforehand and basically having his colours tied to the mast, as it were.

Also that's a pretty great mix though not as good as Andre Galuzzi's similar Berghain 01.

ben UFO though is doing something that a lot of people have assumed for a long time to be impossible ("serious" techno/house w/ heavily swung urban stuff like ukg, post-dubstep, dubstep, grime, etc) AND doing it 100% w/ vinyl AND doing it w/ tons of energy and excitement and dj tricks and whatnot

ty for posting this the day before Ben UFO plays here

Aren't all Loco Dice tracks ghost written by Martiin? Either way I can't stand that sound.

Er, Martin Buttrich.

I was referring to the DJ mix not his tracks (though there were a couple of great Loco Dice tracks).

OK, but I can't stand the whole "sunglasses" sound to be honest. Around 2005/2006 was the first time I realised some minimal house was getting very different from the stuff I was digging.

yeah it became about how you looked rather than what the music was. eg if you wore sunglasses you were obviously a moron incapable of liking good music.

Loco Dice put out 2 12"s around 2005/2006 on Ovum which were pretty classic. Would be prob filed under deep house currently. Both Buttrich productions. Having seen him play a few times I'd say he pretty competent but no surprises. Tim F is right he really was a star of 'minimal' which he achieved by doing both the Ibiza DC10 thing, the Germany/Berlin thing and linking up with big labels of the time; Cadenza and M_nus. He wore sunglasses a lot at had the right 'look', i.e. not a pasty looking european.

i've heard of about 3 of these...

some really unfamiliar names there. vera heindel (is this the dj known as vera?), binh, praslea, alexandra, tulbure, kozo, sonja moonear, laetitia katapult, priku, juniper.

I voted for prosumer. He's not the best technically but damn he's a great digger. Also feel that they should've been nominated: nina kraviz, todd terje, john osborn, prins thomas, serge, steffi, tama sumo.

vera heindel is that vera...binh is resident at club der visionaere

prob put a few too many of the romanians in
i forgot prins thomas (and move d), both should have been in
steffi was nominated (tho her recent sets not been that great)

I admit I've only seen Steffi in Youtube clips though, haha. She looks so cool and charismatic. Selections are ace, too.

didn't really want to do this thread based too much on having actually seen play out as its not up to me how a person makes a choice if people want to base it on mix podcasts or whatever thats totally fine....but on the other hand...

i dont vote in polls because they're kind of dumb but if i did, based on recent sets would prob go for either zip or any of the rpr soundsystem

why is zip underrated? clips of him blew me away.

Zip is like a DJs DJ. He's very very good but not in the premier league of crowd pulling DJs. He hasn't got the profile of Jamie Jones, Seth Troxler, Ricardo etc.. He doesn't exactly have a busy release schedule of his own music either which DJs do to get up the ladder.

recommend me a good zip mix

this bump goes out to the dudes who rock tuesday nights at johnny's on second in salt lake city.