Best Current DJ

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lol i have heard of 3 people on this poll

40oz of tears (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

scuba i think is a digital DJ, which is okay w/ me because so am i, and i'm impressed w/ how he regularly manages to get 50 tracks into 90 minutes, but at the same time i think the digital thing kind of knocks him out of the running for "best DJ"

i don't really care about scuba but this is also hilarious, GIMME MORE

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:14 (twelve years ago) link

k but first tell me why so i can keep bringing the lulz

the late great, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

seriously carrying the distinction between digital or not as a most important factor in one's quality in 2012 is deserving of some animated gif tumblr post

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

seriously carrying the distinction between digital or not as a most important factor in one's quality in 2012 is deserving of some animated gif tumblr post

most every dj on this list will play a high percentage of music that has no digital release

coal, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

i think coal just proved my point

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

really? so in a "best photographer" poll you wouldn't see a distinction between digital cam + photoshop vs film?

the late great, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

take it to ILP

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

k brb

the late great, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

I really like Ben UFO but thought his Rinse CD was pretty much just okay to quite good. ""serious" techno/house w/ heavily swung urban stuff like ukg, post-dubstep, dubstep, grime, etc" is a great concept but the results can seem a lot less startling than you'd think.

Though speaking of which where is Surgeon on this list.

Tim F, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:34 (twelve years ago) link

If you want to account for these differences then do not call this "best current dj" . How about "Best current tech house/minimal non-digital dj".

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link

fwiw i agree his rinse mix was not quite thee best representation of his talents and btw it is quite strange how almost every rinse mix has been underwhelming given the quality of the DJs they pick (well excepting like n-type)

though it also took me many listens to really get into it

the late great, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:51 (twelve years ago) link

a high percentage of music that has no digital release

loads of djs buy vinyl specifically to digitise it.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

i've found that a lot of "official" cd mixes have been underwhelming, especially in comparison with what those DJs actually play out

levon vincent's new fabric mix is an honourable exception but that's in large part b/c he did a ricardo/omar-s and made it largely about his own stuff

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link

i've found that a lot of "official" cd mixes have been underwhelming, especially in comparison with what those DJs actually play out

^ this all day long

coal, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:02 (twelve years ago) link

licensing issues maybe?

the late great, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

The more hyphens on this thread, the more interesting the discussion.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:07 (twelve years ago) link

maybe partly that, maybe partly because the djs seem to try to compress everything they're about into too short a time when they're handed the reins of these projects, and partly because too many of them have a weakness for thom fucking yorke

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:08 (twelve years ago) link

there are so many unlicensed mixes that the ones that filter to the top are always going to be great. it's an unlimited testing ground. i can only imagine that licensing issues must be huge though given what must be a miniscule buying audience for licensed mixes.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:14 (twelve years ago) link

first sentence sounds a bit optimistic, but basically mean the djs get as many goes as they want with unlicensed mixes, it only takes one good one.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

excellent point

but what are you getting at re: hyphens??

the late great, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:17 (twelve years ago) link

also lex sadly otm re: thom fucking yorke, esp wrt "idioteque"

the late great, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:18 (twelve years ago) link

fucking "idioteque", ugh

it's kind of sad in a way cuz there have been so many classic licensed mix CDs but kind of not now that we're unbelievably spoiled with the amount of free mixes available

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:39 (twelve years ago) link

i guess enough of a market for them is still there that fabric, djkicks, berghain et al haven't just wrapped up their CD series

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

hyphens

just i find post-adjective-genre really grim.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:43 (twelve years ago) link

eh come on more complaining about dance genre names?

the late great, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:49 (twelve years ago) link

Sonny D. Moore

diamonddave85, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link

there is a certain context in which the genre names vying against each other is just like the disintegration of discussion.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:54 (twelve years ago) link

which i'm prob way too circumspect about, but still

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:54 (twelve years ago) link

is it brostep?

the late great, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:55 (twelve years ago) link

i've got not problem with post-isms but what's an example of post-minimal out of curiosity

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

soundstream, efdemin, etc

the late great, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

pantha du prince, steffi, art dept, etc

the late great, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 22:00 (twelve years ago) link

Basically any deep house-ish stuff made by people who would have been making minimal back in 2005/2006.

In typical fashion it now seems that post-minimal's moment has stretched a fair amount longer than that of minimal itself.

Tim F, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 22:04 (twelve years ago) link

tim seems to grok

the late great, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 22:05 (twelve years ago) link

what people call post-minimal prob existed before or certainly during minimal. here we go...

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 22:06 (twelve years ago) link

Sure, but what people call post-dubstep also existed before or certainly during dubstep - if you take any "post-" genre this is basically the case.

Tim F, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

One can nitpick these things and act SHOCKED that not all music lines up into a neat chronological series of genre developments, but... do we really have to go through that moment of revelation in 2012?

Tim F, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 22:08 (twelve years ago) link

Surgeon, Donato Dozzy, 2562/A Made Up Sound, Intergalactic Gary... So many other great DJs not on this poll.

Dan Bell would be my choice out of those listed.

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 22:13 (twelve years ago) link

i'm not really nitpicking, more that i just have a problem with this idea of minimal as some distinct thing, it never was until it became a derogatory term and everyone at that point just meant m_nus. all this has been hashed out before though.

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I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 22:17 (twelve years ago) link

This is when I first started to think of "minimal" as a thing:

http://s.dsimg.com/image/R-150-522798-1128092859.jpeg

Loco Dice was probably also the first "star of minimal" in the sense of having zero rep beforehand and basically having his colours tied to the mast, as it were.

Tim F, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 22:27 (twelve years ago) link

Also that's a pretty great mix though not as good as Andre Galuzzi's similar Berghain 01.

Tim F, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 22:28 (twelve years ago) link

ben UFO though is doing something that a lot of people have assumed for a long time to be impossible ("serious" techno/house w/ heavily swung urban stuff like ukg, post-dubstep, dubstep, grime, etc) AND doing it 100% w/ vinyl AND doing it w/ tons of energy and excitement and dj tricks and whatnot

ty for posting this the day before Ben UFO plays here

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 22:39 (twelve years ago) link

Aren't all Loco Dice tracks ghost written by Martiin? Either way I can't stand that sound.

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 22:43 (twelve years ago) link

Er, Martin Buttrich.

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 22:44 (twelve years ago) link

I was referring to the DJ mix not his tracks (though there were a couple of great Loco Dice tracks).

Tim F, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 23:05 (twelve years ago) link

OK, but I can't stand the whole "sunglasses" sound to be honest. Around 2005/2006 was the first time I realised some minimal house was getting very different from the stuff I was digging.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 19 April 2012 08:29 (twelve years ago) link

yeah it became about how you looked rather than what the music was. eg if you wore sunglasses you were obviously a moron incapable of liking good music.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 19 April 2012 08:51 (twelve years ago) link

Loco Dice put out 2 12"s around 2005/2006 on Ovum which were pretty classic. Would be prob filed under deep house currently. Both Buttrich productions. Having seen him play a few times I'd say he pretty competent but no surprises. Tim F is right he really was a star of 'minimal' which he achieved by doing both the Ibiza DC10 thing, the Germany/Berlin thing and linking up with big labels of the time; Cadenza and M_nus. He wore sunglasses a lot at had the right 'look', i.e. not a pasty looking european.

mmmm, Thursday, 19 April 2012 10:31 (twelve years ago) link

i've heard of about 3 of these...

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 19 April 2012 10:33 (twelve years ago) link

Problem is a lot of the stuff those guys play never gets a release

coal, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

the new ben ufo LWE podcast is all-time

the late great, Friday, 18 May 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

new? you mean the one from march?

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 18 May 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link

yep

the late great, Friday, 18 May 2012 23:55 (eleven years ago) link

I saw Jubilee last week and she was amazing. Trina, snap mini-set(!), vogue, MORE TRINA, dancehall, "Club Rez". Talked to her for a min afterward and she said she was playing for me. <3

The Reverend, Saturday, 19 May 2012 06:06 (eleven years ago) link

not really sure about judging a DJ from a short recorded mix (especially if you like djs that play long records and let things breathe rather than a more jumpcut style) but this binh mix is pretty much what i want to hear when out

http://soundcloud.com/nightclubber-ro/binh-holy-sunday-at-club-der

coal, Monday, 28 May 2012 09:39 (eleven years ago) link

nine months pass...

Heard Intergalactic Gary play a excellent 4 hour set last night, which I think was recorded too. I will try and remember to post it on here if it comes online.

In the meantime, my favourite new (to me) DJ is Semantica label head Svreca: https://soundcloud.com/arma17/svreca-aux

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 17 March 2013 16:40 (eleven years ago) link

seven months pass...

this bump goes out to the dudes who rock tuesday nights at johnny's on second in salt lake city.

stylings (Matt P), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 22:53 (ten years ago) link


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