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Nice mix late great.

What are the tracks with the "What you want me to do for you" vocals and the one with the speech about religion, not to mention the closing track :)

EDB, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link

did you like it??? thank you!!! i've been working really hard on these, and i don't like to overdub so i literally do like 50 live takes over the course of a week or two until i'm happy with it - still feel like your advice way way back when on this thread about mixing in a more efficient way and not trying to be flashy was really pivotal in improving my (extremely meager) skillzzzzz

the "what you want me to do for you" track is midland's remix of julio bashmore's "ask yourself" on PMR, first heard blawan play it and it blew my mind

the religion speech is the last track on the 6th borough project album ("settle") i only used the last minute of it but it's a sweet sweet track (five minutes long i think)

the last track is huxley's "let it go" on the hypercolour label

the late great, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago) link

love that fred p record

coal, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:48 (twelve years ago) link

me too, what i love about it is that it sounds good all the way from -8 to +8

the late great, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

i think on this mix it's almost all the way up to like 135 instead of 125 or whatever it normally is

the late great, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link

like the way you can tell a fred p record within 5 seconds the way you can a rick wade record

coal, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:55 (twelve years ago) link

fred p is deeeeeeeeeep

the late great, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

Hi there. Not my mix but a couple of friends did a mix for Rubadub in Glasgow last Saturday. If you listen to it I hope you enjoy.

Saturday Session 14th April 2012

Mr.Prologue, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 22:23 (twelve years ago) link

i literally do like 50 live takes over the course of a week or two until i'm happy with it

― the late great, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:42 (Yesterday) Permalink

yah I feel this, fuck this. I just assumed that no one else really had to do this that often because people are just more skilled or whatever. Sometimes it kind of feels like playing the original mario or whatever and jumping in the same fuckin pit over and over again.

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:45 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?padq0c5v6wyhoau
HOLGER HILLER DAS GLOW ASMUS TIETCHENS WOOLFY VS PROJECTIONS DAPHNI TODD TERJE MR. FINGERS SOME AUDIO FROM SOME PORNO THAT IT TOOK FOREVER TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO RIP COS/MES CX KIDTRONIK etc. etc. etc.

this is my new mix, the second one I've ever done, if you have it in your heart please give it a listen and tell me what needs to be done better

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

sometimes it kind of feels like playing the original mario or whatever and jumping in the same fuckin pit over and over again.

OMG that is the PERFECT analogy

the late great, Thursday, 19 April 2012 21:20 (twelve years ago) link

the late great, i hate listening to your mixes because it makes me want ALL YOUR RECORDS.

i like this recent one, you're right it's much more ruff-n-ready than some of your previous ones, it makes it feel more like a party. you just dive in.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 19 April 2012 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

You all know about just redoing the mix as needed while recording it then editing out the bad transition, right?

dan selzer, Thursday, 19 April 2012 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

(shhhhhh dan don't give it away!!)

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 19 April 2012 21:39 (twelve years ago) link

ahem i mean what, that's crazy, it would be like using cheat to win at mario bros

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 19 April 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

you mean overdubbing, dan?

i have tried to do that in the past but i am not so slick with things like logic and if i try to do it by re-beatmatching the ends of two split tracks together it invariably either gets off-beat (using traktor) or sounds like a dog's breakfast (using serato)

the late great, Thursday, 19 April 2012 22:01 (twelve years ago) link

I am shameless about editing takes together. I find myself having to do this less and less tho!

hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Thursday, 19 April 2012 22:04 (twelve years ago) link

No overdubbing or re-beatmatching.

Record A is playing. it's at a set tempo.

You beatmatch (or, god-forbid, "SYNC") record B.

You bring it record B in.

If you don't like the way it sounds, you pick up the needle on Record A and move it back to somewhere around where it was before you started bringing in B.

Do mix again.

If you're happy with it, keep on DJing.

Then when done, slice out the bad mix. So long as you didn't change the tempo on A during or between the two attempts, it will easily stitch back together.

dan selzer, Thursday, 19 April 2012 22:06 (twelve years ago) link

after putting some mixes together production-style (ie not real time at all) i tried doing something in Mixxx and almost had a heart attack.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 19 April 2012 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

thanks for the tip though Rev, it's a cool program and i want to combine the two approaches.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 19 April 2012 22:08 (twelve years ago) link

So different takes of the one transition, not re-doing an entire mix.

I don't record mixes enough, but when I do, I always do this. And if I didn't bother to do it because I thought my mix sounded good, if it doesn't, I'll just edit it, sometimes have a hard cut between songs. It works in real life, no reason not to do it in an actual mix.

dan selzer, Thursday, 19 April 2012 22:08 (twelve years ago) link

i will fess to having gone back several days afterwards to redo a particular mix: find the first half of the "problem" in the recorded mix and play it on your speakers; then get THAT SAME RECORD and match the tempo on deck A; put next record on deck B; redo mix

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 19 April 2012 22:24 (twelve years ago) link

Then when done, slice out the bad mix

yeah i am just not savvy enough w/ any sort of sound editing software to do this

and i sort of like just re-doing the whole, it scratches that same itch i had as a kid that would make me play levels of sonic over and over just to get 100% of the coins w/o getting hit once, or quit in mortal kombat as soon as i got scratched or missed a fatality.

the late great, Thursday, 19 April 2012 22:42 (twelve years ago) link

It's REALLY easy. Use Audacity and it's just cut and paste. I can't remember if Audacity supports multiple tracks, but with Garage Band or any multitrack software, it's just a question of moving the second part back and forth until it sounds right.

dan selzer, Thursday, 19 April 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

It does, and it's super easy. Heh, I've done so many edits on mixes that I just started making the whole thing in audacity.

the late great, i hate listening to your mixes because it makes me want ALL YOUR RECORDS.

And this, essentially.

EDB, Thursday, 19 April 2012 23:03 (twelve years ago) link

after putting some mixes together production-style (ie not real time at all) i tried doing something in Mixxx and almost had a heart attack.

― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, April 19, 2012 3:07 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thanks for the tip though Rev, it's a cool program and i want to combine the two approaches.

― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, April 19, 2012 3:08 PM Bookmark

My next tip, learn the keyboard shortcuts. Having to do stuff by mouse sucks and it's a lot easier to do things on the beat with keys.

hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:28 (twelve years ago) link

listen 2 my mix u idiots

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:30 (twelve years ago) link

lol @ the restarting mortal kombat when you get hit thing

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:31 (twelve years ago) link

you can also program your own keyboard shortcuts, you basically want to completely minimize what you need to do w/ your mouse

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:32 (twelve years ago) link

I can't figure out where to do that.

hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:33 (twelve years ago) link

I use virtual dj I just assumed mixxx had the same thing (I have mixxx too, but for some reason I find it harder to access different folders quickly with it)

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:35 (twelve years ago) link

nvm sry I can't find that in mixxx

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:39 (twelve years ago) link

how to maintain constant volume, especially when you're mixing live? I often realized that a few tracks in my mix sounds louder/quieter than the rest only after a couple of listens. And that was after going through some mastering before uploading.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 20 April 2012 02:21 (twelve years ago) link

good question, i struggle with that too, i guess that's why jeff mills is always touching his knob(s)

the late great, Friday, 20 April 2012 04:27 (twelve years ago) link

You can adjust the gain, you know.

hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Friday, 20 April 2012 05:25 (twelve years ago) link

In general when DJing sometimes it helps to pay more attention to the level meters than what you hear. Use the gain to get the cue to a level that matches what's already playing.

But this is never perfect, I do massive massive automated volume adjustments in software to try to get the levels somewhat in the same ballpark. This is also really easy but you need software that can handle it.

dan selzer, Friday, 20 April 2012 05:32 (twelve years ago) link

with the software I use, automatic volume adjustment makes the mix sounds like CRAP.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 20 April 2012 05:46 (twelve years ago) link

I prob adjust the gain and bass eq knobs more than everything else on my mixer combined.

Clay, Friday, 20 April 2012 05:47 (twelve years ago) link

"You can adjust the gain, you know.

― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Friday, April 20, 2012 5:25 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I prob adjust the gain and bass eq knobs more than everything else on my mixer combined.

― Clay, Friday, April 20, 2012 5:47 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink"

But how do you know whether the current track is on the same volume as the first track or so?

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 20 April 2012 06:59 (twelve years ago) link

Volume meters / yr own two ears (though they're pretty unreliable after awhile). Yr mixer doesn't have led volume meters?

Clay, Friday, 20 April 2012 07:01 (twelve years ago) link

I use a PC and there's no volume meter on the software I use. I'm saving to buy a controller though. Want to get proper.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 20 April 2012 07:10 (twelve years ago) link

not saying that mixing with a controller is "proper" but it's a first step

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 20 April 2012 07:11 (twelve years ago) link

no volume meter on the software I use

o_O

that seems like some basic level of functionality shit

hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Friday, 20 April 2012 07:20 (twelve years ago) link

I'm about to buy a controller, primarily so I can easily record mixes at home...maybe I'll take it to gigs w/ my laptop but I'm still wary of bringing a laptop because I don't want to lose my cred.

Actually because it's expensive and I can't imagine it not getting destroyed.

I'm looking at the Novation Twitch, I played with it at Guitar Center and am not sure I can get used to using the touch strip in place of the platters. I don't scratch or anything, I'm just so accustomed to setting my cue poing and adjusting pitch that way.

If I decide I need platters there's the Traktor Kontrol S2, but I think I'm leaning towards Serato/Itch over Traktor.

There's also the Vestax VCI-300 mk II and VCI-100 mk II. Used, the price isn't so bad. Twitch I've seen loval for as low as 340.

Or I may hold out for the VCI-380 which is $$$ and not out yet, but is basically a VCI-300 with a Twitch attached to it PLUS it's a real mixer so I can connect my 1200s to it.

dan selzer, Friday, 20 April 2012 07:27 (twelve years ago) link

but it will indeed make you lose your cred.

jk.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 20 April 2012 07:50 (twelve years ago) link

I have a $125 bcd3000 that I've been using to play gigs for ~4 years. Nothing fancy but it gets the job done.

Clay, Friday, 20 April 2012 07:55 (twelve years ago) link

I have zero cred tho

Clay, Friday, 20 April 2012 07:57 (twelve years ago) link

want a traktor kontrol s1 so bad

the late great, Friday, 20 April 2012 14:04 (twelve years ago) link

http://soundcloud.com/pushingit/april2012

pocz ft dj yirvin - verde vintage
siyoung - ykk
bass tandem feat lhasslo - frozen ocean
planas feat ed thomas - breathtaking (dbridge steppers soul mix)
krueger - this is sick
jubilee - overtown
wool + vortex - erotic dancer (b-ju remix)
ena - use your imagination (elemental remix)
dj haus - needin' u (capracara remix)
regality ft corrine - celebrate
spoonface ft heba - flashback
zero g - what must i do
bunny on acid - blown away
royal sapien - war
somepoe - if u got
cone - krooked zions (yellowtail remix)
sometimessean - batty boy
anna love - skip a beat (ldfd mix)
dam mantle - her woes
3 play - rio

fauxmarc, Friday, 20 April 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

also, no reason to muck about with audacity anymore: http://reaper.fm/

(only availble for win + osx tho)

fauxmarc, Friday, 20 April 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link


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